I realize it's not a beta device, which is what I was addressing in my prior post. More or less, others definitions vary because the iPhone X doesn't meet their narrative of what it is or should be. Regardless, it doesn't change iPhone X from being any less successful than it is just based off a tech forums opinion or YouTube blogger.
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Unbox Therapy says, DON'T buy the iPhone X
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I realize it's not a beta device, which is what I was addressing in my prior post. More or less, others definitions vary because the iPhone X doesn't meet their narrative of what it is or should be. Regardless, it doesn't change iPhone X from being any less successful than it is just based off a tech forums opinion or YouTube blogger.
Yeah I know, was agreeing with your point
Do I really have to tell you about statistics and how generalizations don't apply to each individual?
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Their inability to get the iPhone X makes them like videos that say the iPhone X is not as good as phones they can actually afford. And whenever there is demand for a product, there is a market for said product.
Yes! I definitely agree there. A lot of rich people don’t splurge they drive average cars and do not get the latest tech at all. They are very financially savvy and put their money in index funds, 401ks etc. A lot of them also save their money to build a family or help a family / friends. It’s really admirable for someone like me who are tempted by the latest gadgets and trends.
Eh. I don’t think it’s a clickbait. He offered a lot of valid points and he is more of an Android guy. Meh. I agree with his comments about the x. I really dislike that notch. I will never get the x because of the aesthetics.
Anyways, I see you understand economics, even if it’s a clickbait it is how he make a living. No hate on that. We all have a job and that YouTube thing is just his job. No big deal.
Love Sakitech's videos, he was in love with the iPhone X, and is more pro Apple, but he's ditching it and going back to the Galaxy Note 8;
- The notch is a deal breaker to him
- No multi-tasking mode
- iPhone X is a simple OS, and lacks customization
- S-Pen is very useful on the Note 8
But he says FaceID is pretty good, and will miss it, and the form factor size he said is just very comfortable.
- The notch is a deal breaker to him
- No multi-tasking mode
- iPhone X is a simple OS, and lacks customization
- S-Pen is very useful on the Note 8
But he says FaceID is pretty good, and will miss it, and the form factor size he said is just very comfortable.
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On the other hand, a lot of rich people realize they can't take it with them and splurge on fancy cars with the latest of tech in their houses, cars, yachts and off-shore palaces. Now where was this analogy going?
He won’t stop mentioning the keynote fail, which was not actually a failure of FaceID but the handling of the device by people preparing the stage.
He is clearly trying to misrepresent the device to make it seem worse and not being a fair reviewer.
There are a lot of business practices that are legal and rational, but are also immoral, including but not limited to:
Misrepresenting facts
Pretending to be neutral when you aren’t being neutral
Playing a character in a review channel without being open about it.
Clickbait
And also there is just the sadness of being a slave to view count rather than integrity. He clearly doesn’t have any trouble making a living. He can easily afford more integrity, he chooses not to because he wants to live a luxurious lifestyle.
Face ID has the same issue that Face recognition on Samsung phones have. It's not going to be great across the board. The face recognition on my Note 8 is terrible for myself, but others find it works just fine. The Iris and finger sensor work great for me.
And that's where the Note 8 outshines the iPhone X, cause the iPhone X only leaves you with one biometric choice.
And that's where the Note 8 outshines the iPhone X, cause the iPhone X only leaves you with one biometric choice.
That my friend is the difference in Android and iOS....one has choices that can be taylor made to fit your needs. Then the other is one size fits all...take or leave it.. .
BUT you still have to pick the device up for it to work wether you use facial recognition/Iris scanner or FP scanner. So it's not like you are at a advantage of that choice. If the FP scanner was under the display then sure it's good to have the choice but really it's not real major benefit
It all depends on how you use it. I rarely have the need to unlock my phone without picking it up. And in my car while it's on a stand, it stays unlocked from Smart Lock(Bluetooth).
I'm not really a table/desk user.
you're right it all depends how you use the device but really it looks good having 3 options but if facial recognition iris worked well enough like face ID is suppose to then using the others wouldn't be needed. FP scanner for me anyway is just a pain on samsung devices. Just a pain to use. My dad never uses his on his S8 plus and I can't see why one would ever use it when facial recognition is more than quick enough. It is why I can see samsung and other android companies putting more effort in face ID than under the screen tech
Well the FP sensor has worked well for me, and I'm forced to use it often with apps that use it to login.
Of course the placement is still an issue for many, and still not preferred to those who have no issues with it. But it looks like the S9 will fix the placement factor, by putting it in the middle(most likely), or in the front within the display(my preference, but not likely).
Lewis is generally YouTube clickbait with his thumbnail like Gizmodo and BGR headlines that trash Android except Lewis does it for Apple. Remember the iPhone Snooze Edition with his overdramatic thumbnail? Always does some face-palm for clickbait. At least it's working for him. He's got over 4M views and nearly 200K likes. He's getting paid by Google.
http://bgr.com/2017/10/11/pixel-2-vs-iphone-x-design-comparison-ugly/
In fairness, it felt like a video about the 5T but he does make a point with it. The X isn't twice better than OP5T and you can make a case the Pixel 2 XL and Note8 are better than the X and are cheaper. The competition is much better and more people are becoming OS agnostic.
Lewis is a very observant guy...
http://bgr.com/2017/10/11/pixel-2-vs-iphone-x-design-comparison-ugly/
In fairness, it felt like a video about the 5T but he does make a point with it. The X isn't twice better than OP5T and you can make a case the Pixel 2 XL and Note8 are better than the X and are cheaper. The competition is much better and more people are becoming OS agnostic.
Lewis is a very observant guy...
Roflmao! Too true, too true. Oh gosh I don’t know why but I can’t stop laughing at your post. Sometimes someone says something that strikes my sense of humor a certain way. My morning coffee is getting cold thanks to you! I can’t drink it right now for fear of choking. I can’t believe I missed this thread and this gem of a post until today.
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I don’t wear a hat but I do wear glasses and my hairstyle changes day to day and often falls in front of my face. I’m nevertheless shocked at how well the face unlock works so well under conditions I didn’t expect it to work. It also learns so it’s failing less under circumstances that tripped it up initially. However I did turn off the requirement that it needs to see my eyes to unlock. I’m rarely in locations and circumstances where that extra precaution would be needed and when it is, I can always go into settings and turn it back on. Swiping up takes all of a second and I barely notice I am doing it. I’m literally at my home screen before my brain has a chance to register I swiped up to get there. So for me, that’s not something that makes a OnePlus phone more attractive.
I didn’t find anything wrong with his video. He explained his position reasonably enough. I don’t agree with his conclusion but I respect the thoughts he had and how he worded most of them. But his videos are mostly about him and his opinions and very little about the device itself. He said the cameras were good but didn’t show us the tests he conducted to arrive at that conclusion. I prefer the You Tube hosts who demonstrate the features as they are discussing them. Then you can make your own observations and form your own conclusions.
I’ve had both and they both feel like finalized finished products to me. It’s just that the Pixel 2 has quality control issues. The specifications were fine. The design was fine. So that’s not “beta” by any means. In fact, the plain black slab is a time tested design. OLED has been on the market for years. There was literally NOTHING new Google was bringing to the table other than their special software and their camera chip. Where it fell apart was in the implementation. That is due to many factors, but not due to a beta condition of their design and specifications, which could not be more plain and typical.
I know some people have run into q.c. issues on their X. I know there are some complaints about certain user interface implementations. I know I was expecting it to feel and work like a prototype. I could not have been more wrong in my expectations. It’s not perfect and I foresee some tweaks in the future. But it does not feel or function like a beta or prototype to me. It’s no more and no less perfect than any other iPhone I’ve ever used. But it may be the most fun.
I agree with the guy in OP's video. The iPhone X is not a bad phone, it's just way too expensive. The lowest cost model is almost 1200€ in my country. For a phone that's insanely expensive. I could buy two OP5Ts at 499€ a pop and still have money left for a fancy dinner for two.
The iPhone X literally does not do anything more than a several much cheaper smartphones on the market. If it wasn't made by Apple and wasn't running iOS I don't think anyone would buy it. I think pricing it that high sets a dangerous precedent for raising phone prices through the roof while offering very little extra value to the consumer beyond a status symbol.
It will be very interesting to see if Apple will put out an iPhone X+ model next year at the same price point while dropping the X price to a more reasonable level or will they keep the current pricing and add an even more expensive model.
PS. The Pixel 2 lineup is also ridiculously overpriced so it's not like Google doesn't do it too.
The iPhone X literally does not do anything more than a several much cheaper smartphones on the market. If it wasn't made by Apple and wasn't running iOS I don't think anyone would buy it. I think pricing it that high sets a dangerous precedent for raising phone prices through the roof while offering very little extra value to the consumer beyond a status symbol.
It will be very interesting to see if Apple will put out an iPhone X+ model next year at the same price point while dropping the X price to a more reasonable level or will they keep the current pricing and add an even more expensive model.
PS. The Pixel 2 lineup is also ridiculously overpriced so it's not like Google doesn't do it too.
Lewis is generally clickbait with his thumbnails but he makes a point.
He could have just said to iPhone fans to buy the 7 or 8 to save money. The whole premise from that video is it's NOT worth $1000 to MOST consumers. The iPhone X could be better than the OnePlus 5T or iPhone 7, but not $500+ better.
To some who can afford it, then go for it. To most, look elsewhere. Rather buy a MacBook with that money. Only 3 GB RAM and has proven NOT to be the fastest, not have longest battery life and not the best camera.
Features -
- New security feature that isn't really better or worse than Touch ID
- New design that isn't really new to many who have seen edge-to-edge three years ago.
- Animoji
- Swipe gestures which has been around since 2009 with webOS
- Wireless charging is nothing new.
- Fast charging is nothing new and iPhone X still charges the slowest with it.
Paying $1000+ for NOT BEING THE BEST at any important facet and features that are nothing new. This is NOT hating. This is understanding the history of phones and being brutally honest.
To uneducated phone users, they will never understand that gesture swipes was released with webOS. So if webOS designer, Matias Duarte, copies it, the uneducated would bash Android for copying iPhone again when none of that is true.
Educate yourselves. Don't be biased. It blinds you from the truth.
He could have just said to iPhone fans to buy the 7 or 8 to save money. The whole premise from that video is it's NOT worth $1000 to MOST consumers. The iPhone X could be better than the OnePlus 5T or iPhone 7, but not $500+ better.
To some who can afford it, then go for it. To most, look elsewhere. Rather buy a MacBook with that money. Only 3 GB RAM and has proven NOT to be the fastest, not have longest battery life and not the best camera.
Features -
- New security feature that isn't really better or worse than Touch ID
- New design that isn't really new to many who have seen edge-to-edge three years ago.
- Animoji
- Swipe gestures which has been around since 2009 with webOS
- Wireless charging is nothing new.
- Fast charging is nothing new and iPhone X still charges the slowest with it.
Paying $1000+ for NOT BEING THE BEST at any important facet and features that are nothing new. This is NOT hating. This is understanding the history of phones and being brutally honest.
To uneducated phone users, they will never understand that gesture swipes was released with webOS. So if webOS designer, Matias Duarte, copies it, the uneducated would bash Android for copying iPhone again when none of that is true.
Educate yourselves. Don't be biased. It blinds you from the truth.
When I looking at the phone competition, there are lots of phones that are trurly grate phones and not too expensive as well.
The base configuration iPhone X is over 1500 tax in in Canada. Please tell me how this phone worth 1500+? While I am looking at phones like Huawei P10 Plus and Mate 9, these phone are priced under about 600 Candian or cheaper if you know where to buy. Then I am looking at the OnePlus 5 and 5T. There is no way that iPhone worth twice or sometimes triple over other phone.
iPhone X is great phone, it looks nice and packed with lots of good stuffs. But to say iPhone X itself worth 1500+, then I say no. If I am looking at buying iPhone, I probably will pick up iPhone 7, definitely not iPhone X.
The base configuration iPhone X is over 1500 tax in in Canada. Please tell me how this phone worth 1500+? While I am looking at phones like Huawei P10 Plus and Mate 9, these phone are priced under about 600 Candian or cheaper if you know where to buy. Then I am looking at the OnePlus 5 and 5T. There is no way that iPhone worth twice or sometimes triple over other phone.
iPhone X is great phone, it looks nice and packed with lots of good stuffs. But to say iPhone X itself worth 1500+, then I say no. If I am looking at buying iPhone, I probably will pick up iPhone 7, definitely not iPhone X.
What you seem to be blind to (because you make essentially the same post all over the forums) is that there are many of us who don’t consider Android alternatives when we are phone shopping. I have plenty of reasons to stick to iOS, AirPods and my Apple Watch (which I love) for example. The value proposition of Android phones plays no factor at all in my purchasing decision. The iPhone X is the best phone they’ve ever made, and so it’s the one I choose to spend my money on. I feel like I am getting a value out of it, as a device I use every day for work and play. It’s not about being biased or being “blinded from the truth”, it’s about being an adult that makes decisions based on my needs and finances.
Don't get the hate for FR. I pick up my phone and more times than not the phone is waiting on me.
I just find the home button super clunky on my ipad.
Yes the iPhone X is a nice phone. But $1,500 nice ? No frigging way !!!!!!!!!!
I heard next year's X2 or whatever it's called is supposed to be a little cheaper price. Apple saying the first go around this year your paying for the R&D etc...next year the factory will already be setup and ready to build the X style phone, thus allowing costs to come down a hair.
I still think the LG V30 and Pixel 2 XL are the best phones this year. No way I'd get a phone running iOS 11.
And the OnePlus 5t for $499 is the bargain of the year.
I must be a glutton......I just ordered an unlocked iPhone X 64GB silver form the Apple store.....pick it up in an hour.
Gonna give the X one more shot.....
Gonna give the X one more shot.....