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Unhappy with the M1 Macs? Wait for the early 2021 Macs with Apple Silicon
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The next models should not take too long to arrive. The M1 Macs are so much faster than the others that they are probably cannibalizing the sales of higher-end models. Apple certainly wants to offer customers a reason to buy the 16-inch MacBook Pro for $2,399 instead of the $999 MacBook Air, and it will not wait too long. It is just common sense, and there is no need for Ming-Chi Kuo to tell such an obvious thing.
Agreed. Although it's reassuring to hear it from Mark Gurman. I wouldn't mind a new form factor design for the 16-inch but I'm quite happy with the 16-inch design. The other laptops need revamps in screen to bezel ratios. And the iMac...well that whole design could be thrown out as it's as old as the hills!
It is. So, where are the rumours? Wants ain’t rumours.Well, this is a rumors web site isn't it?
There has to be plenty of people who need a new iMac but will not buy an Intel version...
I think the transition will be done when the Pro Macs come with M2.
Before then, hopefully M1X Macs (higher end laptops and regular iMacs) with 4+8 core cpus and 16 core gpus.
I think the transition will be done when the Pro Macs come with M2.
Before then, hopefully M1X Macs (higher end laptops and regular iMacs) with 4+8 core cpus and 16 core gpus.
Not all cores in Apple Silicon are created equal though. In the Intel and AMD chips, each core is identical. On ARM-based systems (including Apple's chips), they most often use a BIG.little setup, where some cores are high performance and the rest are high efficiency. For that reason alone, you can't truly compare the M1 to an 8-core AMD or Intel directly.
Interesting Post.
Agree people needing more powerful machines need to wait. Some people are party poopers though and seem upset that Apple have released some stonking low tier machines.
It will be interesting to see if they release a 13" next year. My assumption was that the 14" is going to replace it as the body will be the same size, but the screen will be bigger via smaller bezels.
It's possible the 13 could be kept around as a low tier MBP. But would that be cost effective when they could just do a low tier 14 and streamline production.
I def don't think we are seeing Mac Pro at WWDC next year. I'd imagine that an announcement about that will come in November next year or later. The more powerful the machine, the longer it's going to take before release.
There were rumors earlier this month that the 16 was ramping up to production, but those rumors may have been incorrect. I'm guessing a June to Oct release for the 16 and a May/June release for the 14. Normally they'd be released together, but not sure that will happen this time.
With you on what Apple will address and resolve, although not sure about the eGPU issue resolved next year.
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I agree with everyone stating that we will start seeing some kind of new macs here before WWDC. I'm guessing around the March timeframe since there are some models getting long in the tooth (the 13" and 16" pros) and while we could wait for WWDC, I bet you anything they will come out prior, that way Apple can talk about those Air Tags, a revamped Apple TV, and those over the ear apple headphones. I think that WWDC staying software only will benefit the Dev's and keep Apple's story line clear. I'd think that the updated 13" and 16" Pros will just be like this first batch, the same outside, beefed up inside. Change less stuff and you are going to have a more reliable product. While the 13" is a bit long in the tooth, I still love the look of the current 16" and it isn't that old design wise. That way, it gives Apple a whole another year of runway to do the redesign with a chip that they know works and have the opportunity to iterate on it.
As for the whole two year transision thing, it can be a play on words. They could revamp the entire lineup sans the Mac Pro and release that next December and still be in the right window. Meaning they could upgrade all existing Macs at the start of next year, except one, and still hold true to what they said and still not look too aggressive. I'm hoping that this is the case since I'm super looking forward to what they have to bring for the 16". I'm on Windows only right now and want to jump back in the Mac ecosystem, but I need something beefy and something that can run more than just the one external monitor.
As for the whole two year transision thing, it can be a play on words. They could revamp the entire lineup sans the Mac Pro and release that next December and still be in the right window. Meaning they could upgrade all existing Macs at the start of next year, except one, and still hold true to what they said and still not look too aggressive. I'm hoping that this is the case since I'm super looking forward to what they have to bring for the 16". I'm on Windows only right now and want to jump back in the Mac ecosystem, but I need something beefy and something that can run more than just the one external monitor.
14” rumor has been floating around within the last 12 months. It will happen some time 2022.
M1 Macs represent ~80% of all Macs shipped. From a cashflow point of view this will increase sales the most from and supply chain point of view it is the least complex to manufacture and deliver.
Mac Pro refresh to Apple silicon will occur during WWDC 2021
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I took them by their word in 2005 and they did it in less than 7 months.
Same here. I traded my 2017 iMac for it. Almost Everything is faster than my 2017 iMac. 2 years from now, I'll get M3 or M4 Mac. I hope they come out with a Mac mini Pro. There is a lot more room in the Mac mini for an Apple GPU. I have no need for an iMac.
Mac mini and Macbook Pro 13" both have four TB4/USB4 port model still being sold with Intel chips. This is seldom mentioned by the press.
Both will be transitioned to Apple Silicon with iMac 21.5"/27" and Macbook Pro 16" between January and April 2021 as early 2021 Macs.
Mid 2021 Macs would be iMac Pro and Mac Pro during WWDC 2021 in June.
As a result of using the M1 for less than a week, I will no longer buy an Intel Mac.
Intels in my opinion wastes power, creates excess heat, slows / throttle down, and runs CPU instruction cycles and memory latencies so inefficiently compared to AS.
I can't wait to get rid of my thigh burner 16" MBP - why have a hot computer designed that needs to have a cooling fan underneath for fear of component damage....
Intels in my opinion wastes power, creates excess heat, slows / throttle down, and runs CPU instruction cycles and memory latencies so inefficiently compared to AS.
I can't wait to get rid of my thigh burner 16" MBP - why have a hot computer designed that needs to have a cooling fan underneath for fear of component damage....
The Intel Mac Mini and MBP13 do *NOT* have TB4 or USB4 ports. Have a look at https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/
They have TB3, and on the Mini, USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Mbps) ports.
I don't think the press have overlooked the Intel versions at all; I have seen several YouTube review in which the differences are highlighted, with the advantages of the Intel models including options for more RAM, and more TB3 ports.
I would expect a new small iMac within the next 5-6 month. If they re-use the existing 21.5" design it could be quite soon (Jan-Feb), but if it is a new 24" model, I would expect it Apr-June. An upgraded MBP13/14 would also be release around this time.
I expect iMac Pro to be merged with a new larger iMac (maybe 30-32") and released October-December 2021. Similar time frame for a new MBP16, but might be a couple of months earlier July-Sep 21.
My guess is that the MacPro might be announced in December 2021, but not appear until early-mid 2022, and to have a substantially different physical architecture to the other machines (e.g. separate multi-socket cards or a dGPU/accelerator).
14": 2022!?!?
What are you judging this opinion on? Just your thinking or rumors you've seen? All the rumors point to next year for the 14.
Mac Pro: Again, what are judging this on? Just a hunch? I've not seen this info anywhere except your post. I think you'll be disappointed as it's not gonna happen. If it does, then woohoo for everybody!
Do you know how many customers will be pissed off if they upgraded the Mini again within 6 months of the initial offering going on sale?
I don't see the Mini getting another refresh until late 2021 or 2022.
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The Mac minis that were bought had two TB4/USB4 ports. People who bought those wanted only two ports and no more than 16GB RAM.
The Intel Mac mini with four TB4/USB4 ports have not been refreshed since 2018 because the Apple Silicon chip suitable for a higher-end Mac is not available now but will be between January-April 2021.
The 13" was refreshed with a slight redesign.
Mac Pro: PowerPC to Intel transition was declared to take 2 years. It was done in 210 days. Apple has a greater financial incentive to move out sooner than later. They'll make more per Mac Pro with Apple Silicon than a Mac Pro with Intel. The M1's benchmarks shows a less than 15W TDP laptop chip nearing Xeon desktop chip performance. If I was buying a Mac today I'd go with M1 or wait for up to WWDC 2021.
My premise has anticedents. Up to you if you want to buy now because you dont believe
You are correct they do not have TB4 or USB4. What I meant was the Apple Silicon Mac models that will replace the Intel models will have TB4 & USB4.
The transition will be completed in less than 210 days from Mac event of the M1 Macs last week.
That will coincide with WWDC 2021 where in the iMac Pro and Mac Pro will debut.
Haha. Fair enough. That's your opinion and you're allowed to have it no matter how interesting it is!
BTW, there was no redesign with the 13". That's yet another thing you've got wrong.
At least you're putting it out there! Good luck with your guesses... you're gonna need it!
That's the reason why Apple is moving away from Intel. They cannot deliver parts at target design.
This is also why the transition will be less tha 210 days since the M1 Macs debuted. Apple will make more money selling Apple Silicon macs than Intel Macs.
It would be really cool if people didn't phrase statements that are pure conjecture as fact.
I realise that we now live in an "alternate facts", post-truth world but still. Damn.
How about, "I think" or "I predict" or "based on X it is likely".
I realise that we now live in an "alternate facts", post-truth world but still. Damn.
How about, "I think" or "I predict" or "based on X it is likely".
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