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NJRonbo

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Yea...so Apple will lose money because you cancel your order and you will buy 1 potential mac :)))
Maybe he is Tim Cook masked :)
Buy your mac and use it until whenever will happen the next arm mac will come out....time is money for us, and until then, use it ...dont cancel and wait for something is not for sure when it will come.

I am skeptical that a few short months after introducing a limited-memory Mini that Apple would turn around and offer another with 32GB+ support. That would piss off a lot of people and quite frankly, I have never seen Apple do something like that with their product releases. A year later? More likely.
 
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No, I don't care about the ports. I know others do.

What I am asking is when you expect to see the Mini refreshed with a new chip that will support more than 16GB ram?

I have a 16GB Mini on preorder right now. I need more memory than that so I am trying to gauge what the wait time will be
I am guessing in March 2021....but its just a speculation, of course... since you dont care about the ports so much...you can use your Mini for at least 4 months and make money.And after 4 months if a new mini comes and you like it, and you know it will be even better for you...you can exchange it...lets not forget until early january you can make money with any new mac, and after that you can return it, since the return policy is longer now until January
 

NJRonbo

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I am guessing in March 2021....but its just a speculation, of course... since you dont care about the ports so much...you can use your Mini for at least 4 months and make money.And after 4 months if a new mini comes and you like it, and you know it will be even better for you...you can exchange it...lets not forget until early january you can make money with any new mac, and after that you can return it, since the return policy is longer now until January

I can't exchange it in four months. I think the proper word would be sell it. I only have till the end of January to return it.
 

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I am skeptical that a few short months after introducing a limited-memory Mini that Apple would turn around and offer another with 32GB+ support. That would piss off a lot of people and quite frankly, I have never seen Apple do something like that with their product releases. A year later? More likely.
Yep, thats my take also..Still, March can be a possibility....but for me yes, it will be mid 2021
There is no doubt until the end of the next year...almost all the macs will be running under their arm chips and users should not be pissed...because Apple announced this transition timeline to be finished in max 2 years
 

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I can't exchange it in four months. I think the proper word would be sell it. I only have till the end of January to return it.
yes, thats i said...to exchange it (sell it and buy the new one), or return it in January
From my personal experience...you can trade it in March if a new one comes...and Apple will offer a very good deal because of the short period of time
 

NJRonbo

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yes, thats i said...to exchange it (sell it and buy the new one), or return it in January
From my personal experience...you can trade it in March if a new one comes...and Apple will offer a very good deal because of the short period of time

Excellent. Thanks for the advice.
 
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It seems you dont understand, its ok. Live in the past. Remember TSMC is the MAIN manufacture for all of Apples chips now....and is not samsung to make 10 mil of arm chips per month....Apple main business is still iphones and services
And lets not get into the profit of Apple could possible throw if they release all the arm macs in the next 6 months, and thats bad for investors and as for business...Apple is not a charity company. In 2005 Steve run Apple and Steve was about the product and money was on second place....Tim Cook is a brilliant accounted and now it shows why Apple worth 2 trill $ , so for him is money first, products second. Again, to compare 2 different era is strange.
You will see that the 24" imac will come next year....and the arm mac pro will not come at 2021 WWDC
YOu can print screen this and we talk in about 7 months. But based on your replies its clear you have nothing else to do...you are all over the place :)
Again, we talk in 7 months
It appears you have no idea about supply chain, purchasing or much less business activities.

It's ok... it's just an online forum. Neither of us are making money whether you or I are correct.

And what's Samsung to do with this conversation?

Apple's main businesses is more than what you listed.

Macrumors have a lot of rumors floating around. One of the longest is the iMac 24". It was somewhat believable before their move to Apple Silicon but during the transiton not so much anymore. In terms of timing it makes sense to occur in 2022.

Why is updating all Intel Macs to Apple Silicon bad for investors? M1's benchmark scores makes all Intel Macs essentially stale making it a case study of the Osborne effect if they dont transition in 210 days or less.

I respect other users enough to reply to them with citations and anticedents. Your replies are pretty much fake news without verifiable references.

I'd work on your English. Other than not being wise in business your English is rather confusing.
 
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I am skeptical that a few short months after introducing a limited-memory Mini that Apple would turn around and offer another with 32GB+ support. That would piss off a lot of people and quite frankly, I have never seen Apple do something like that with their product releases. A year later? More likely.
They will probably not refresh their Macbooks and Macbook Minis, but maybe the iMacs will be refreshed with 32+ GB RAM.
 

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I am skeptical that a few short months after introducing a limited-memory Mini that Apple would turn around and offer another with 32GB+ support. That would piss off a lot of people and quite frankly, I have never seen Apple do something like that with their product releases. A year later? More likely.
Apple still offers a $1,099 Intel Mac mini that can accommodate more than 16GB memory.

The Intel chips used with it was launched more than 2.5 years ago.

It makes no sense for them to continue selling beyond WWDC 2021 for the simple reason of who will buy something that slow and out of date at such an expensive price?

People who need more than 16GB memory will not buy a Mac mini with 16GB memory. They will wait until a SKU comes out that matches their exacting requirements.

People are mad that 10Gb Ethernet is not an option this month but it will become available in the future. Like say on a $1,099 Mac mini with Apple Silicon to be available between January-April 2021. :)

Look at it from a supply chain, purchasing and business point of view.

Apple will make more money selling the most homogenous Macs in their first phase that makes up ~80% of all Macs shipped then move up to the next phase that includes your Mac mini with 32GB memory.
 
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Hexley

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They will probably not refresh their Macbooks and Macbook Minis, but maybe the iMacs will be refreshed with 32+ GB RAM.
Apple stopped selling Macbooks in 2019 and they do not make Macbook Minis.

iMacs with an option with 32GB or more memory are likely between January-April 2021.
 

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Do a deep dive into their their financials and other metrics. You may be surprised that Apple purchasing and supply chain near perfection.

This is not from an Apple fanboi point of view buy a supply chain professional.

Apple has the cash to buy capacity and is such an important a client that anyone and everyone will bend over for them or else they'll move their business elsewhere.
Even the best supply chain in the world can't supply a product that doesn't exist. So far Apple has not told the public whether the new Mac Pro chip is almost ready or still a year or two away. The people who know are not allowed to tell.
 

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Last month someone offered to buy my Mac as their broke down and the fella cannot afford more than $700.

I should have accepted before Mac event earlier this month.

If I sold my 2012 Macbook Air then I'd buy what I really wanted, the first Macbook Pro 16" with Apple Silicon coming our early 2021. Sadly I bought the first Macbook Pro 16" with Intel.

If I sold my 2015 iMac 27" then I'd buy a redesigned body iMac by year 2022.
Wow, similar situation here - I had a friend who needed a newer laptop as her 2012 MBP had a liquid spill.

I should have sold my 2014 MBP for $600 that had the AR coating wearing off (staingate).....

Now, my friend is getting the M1 MBA for $899 (Education price) and 0% financing for 12 months.
 

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Wow, similar situation here - I had a friend who needed a newer laptop as her 2012 MBP had a liquid spill.

I should have sold my 2014 MBP for $600 that had the AR coating wearing off (staingate).....

Now, my friend is getting the M1 MBA for $899 (Education price) and 0% financing for 12 months.
I feel ya bro!

I also should have sold all my old Macs from year 2000 to 2011 as soon as I picked up a replacement. Would have gotten 20-50% right off bat.
 

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Even the best supply chain in the world can't supply a product that doesn't exist. So far Apple has not told the public whether the new Mac Pro chip is almost ready or still a year or two away. The people who know are not allowed to tell.
Apple does not comment on unreleased products. That's been their company line for over 2 decade.
 

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Higher end MBPs with more RAM and ports in March is my guess.
Maybe iMacs too, but iMacs might be WWDC...
 

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I am 100% certain that the following Macs will be updated with Apple Silicon chips on a Tuesday between January-April 2021.
  • MBP 16"
  • MBP 13" with four ports
  • Mac mini with four ports
  • iMac 21.5" & 27"
~80% certain it will be on March, ~19% certain it will be either January or April and less than 1% certain it will be a February.

The last Mac event was held on a Tuesday, 10 November 2020. A Mac event on March 2021 would make it ~4 months apart.

Macs are historically labeled on what part of the calendar it gets released whether it be "early", "mid" or late".

Example:
  • Early 2008 MBP 15"
  • Mid-2010 MBP 13"
  • Late 2019 MBP 16"
 
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100% sure
Jesus guys this user must be Tim Cook
No question about it

on a real note for those who needs a mac in upcoming weeks, dont wait , nothing is sure
Im also waiting the bigger imac that is not 100% will be again 27”
Again folks, nothing is sure , just the transition 2 years max
OP is 100% sure in his option:)
 
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Hexley

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100% sure
Jesus guys this user must be Tim Cook
No question about it

on a real note for those who needs a mac in upcoming weeks, dont wait , nothing is sure
Im also waiting the bigger imac that is not 100% will be again 27”
Again folks, nothing is sure , just the transition 2 years max
OP is 100% sure in his option:)
I agree with you that the next iMac will not be a redesign of a design that originated in late 2012. Exactly 8 years ago to the month.

Redesigned body will be out by 2022. This would be when I would upgrade my late 2012 iMac 27".

If the M1 Macs fits your needs now then buy it. If it's a want then wait it out.

For the past decades or so all Apple events are held on a Tuesday.
 

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I agree with you that the next iMac will not be a redesign of a design that originated in late 2012. Exactly 8 years ago to the month.

Redesigned body will be out by 2022. This would be when I would upgrade my late 2012 iMac 27".

If the M1 Macs fits your needs now then buy it. If it's a want then wait it out.

For the past decades or so all Apple events are held on a Tuesday.

I just wonder if the redesigned laptops will still feature the current non replaceable battery, or go the route of the Air?

An important question for long term use.
 
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I just wonder if the redesigned laptops will still feature the current non replaceable battery, or go the route of the Air?

An important question for long term use.
For Apple... Macs are toasters or a refrigerator.
 

NJRonbo

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I agree with you that the next iMac will not be a redesign of a design that originated in late 2012. Exactly 8 years ago to the month.

Redesigned body will be out by 2022. This would be when I would upgrade my late 2012 iMac 27".

If the M1 Macs fits your needs now then buy it. If it's a want then wait it out.

For the past decades or so all Apple events are held on a Tuesday.


Hexley,

You have been throwing out these "I am 100% certain that these certain Macs are coming out early next year."

Fact is, you don't know anything.

You aren't Tim Cook. You don't work for Apple. You have no insight whatsoever into the upcoming product line. In fact, the insight you claim to have goes against the grain of what the rumors have been reporting which are mostly reliable.

What we have been hearing is that there will be no updates to M1 products just announced and that those that are forthcoming are new products in the line. In other words...iMac, 16" MBP, and possible Pro.

However, you keep trying to convince people otherwise and it's getting a bit...old.
 
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