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Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps

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DC41 said:
I’m right with you on 1 and 2. I’d also like ExpressVPN to go native, but their help chat people said essentially,"don’t hold your breath." I wonder just how much battery I would save and transfers would improve with M1 optimized client.
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I probably won't renew my subscription when it comes up in May if they haven't optimized it for M1. Did the same with Dropbox. Went with Synology Drive instead and haven't regretted it (although it's not optimized for M1, I don't pay an annual fee). OneDrive, however, I have to continue using for work.
 
lcubed said:
one year?
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that's stupid; they'll support rosetta for as long as needed. at last 2 years. and if not it won't stop working; you just have to not update to the lastest OS for the time being.
Like I probably won't be updating to monterey for a year; until I'm absolutely 100% sure the myriad of applications and plugin I use work with it. Only problem is if you buy a new machine and you can't downgrade. Btw I'm still waiting for most of the stuff I use to become native M1; after a year; and there are plugins I use daily that will probably never be so yeah keep rosetta for at least 2 or 3 OS revisions (which begs the question; why a major OS update every year; people have other things to do in their life than constantly updating and checking that your stuff is working and dealing with the compatibility of your software; which in the audio world takes 6 months to a year. This is exhausting).
 
grrrz said:
that's stupid; they'll support rosetta for as long as needed. at last 2 years. and if not it won't stop working; you just have to not update to the lastest OS for the time being.
Like I probably won't be updating to monterey for a year; until I'm absolutely 100% sure the myriad of applications and plugin I use work with it. Only problem is if you buy a new machine and you can't downgrade. Btw I'm still waiting for most of the stuff I use to become native M1; after a year; and there are plugins I use daily that will probably never be so yeah keep rosetta for at least 2 or 3 OS revisions (which begs the question; why a major OS update every year; people have other things to do in their life than constantly updating and checking that your stuff is working and dealing with the compatibility of your software; which in the audio world takes 6 months to a year. This is exhausting).
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In WWDC Tim did say that everyone got two years to go over to universal binary and we are one year in.
 
I’m sure what he said was that apple had a two year plan to switch from Intel to apple silicon across their range. He also said that Intel macs would be supported for years to come. I certainly don’t remember him saying that developers had two years to move to apple silicon. People are still buying Intel based 27” iMacs and Mac Pros!
 
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yeah I don't see why they would drop the support after just two years when the whole ecosystem is struggling hard to get up to date. I feel like in mid 2022 we'll have most apps supported; but it will trail off for a while; and maybe people use software that will never be updated and will appreciate continued support. At one point it will probably be dropped; like the first rosetta; like 32 bit support. But the first Rosetta was suppported for 5 years; which seems reasonable. Personally I have gone to great length to keep certain software running; including not updating from snow leopard for five years; and I still keep an old laptop with a copy of snow leopard just for these two plug-ins I might need.
 
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5425642 said:
what's the difference between the App Store app and the stand a lone?
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The difference between the two is that the App Store version is "sandboxed" where as the standalone version is not.

"Sandboxing" means that the application is limited in what kind of resources on your computer it can access. This is the reason that when using the App Store version for the first time, you have to confirm the location of your OneDrive on your computer. This makes that folder available through the sandbox for OneDrive.

Sandboxing means that some features won't work on the App Store version - i.e. they're not available. However, Microsoft really isn't documenting or emphasising anywhere what those features might be. "Ordinary" home user usage of OneDrive is fully supported, but if you want to use other features, you might have to check that they work in the App Store version. [...]

apple.stackexchange.com

What is the difference between OneDrive from AppStore and standalone installer

Right now there two options for installing OneDrive: Install from the AppStore Download and install a standalone installer What is the difference between the two if any? (but then why there are two
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I understand, then I guess that I can download the stand-a-lone and run it or I'll just wait maybe. I kind of like when softwares are updating trough AppStore it's nice to have everything on one location.
 
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Blender 3.1 alfa with Metal support enabled now:

devtalk.blender.org

Cycles Apple Metal device feedback

Cycles now has a Metal GPU backend, contributed by Apple. Metal GPU rendering is currently supported on Apple Silicon computers running macOS 12.2 Apple computers with AMD graphics card running macOS 12.3 The implementation is in an early state. Performance optimizations and support for Intel...
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dragonfly1 said:
LibreOffice 7.2 runs now native on Apple silicon.
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LibreOffice 7.2.4 (native Apple Silicon) is officially released and works great on my M1 MacBook Pro with one big exception. The base app will not open my database created on the Intel version. I get error: connection to the external data source could not be established. No SDBC driver was found for the URL ‘sdbc:embedded:hsqldb’. It appears this has something to do with JAVA Runtime Environment. In Preferences/LibreOffice/Advanced the checkbox for selecting a JRE is grayed out. Also, no JRE appears in the box "installed on your machine" although I have JAVA 1.8 installed. I know JAVA is not Apple Silicon native but it seems to run fine in Rosetta II. The Intel version of Base worked fine on my M1 but I'm wondering if there are any suggestions on how to get the Apple Silicon version running?
 
Signal Messenger desktop now supports M1.

community.signalusers.org

Beta Feedback

Try new features before they are available to everyone else. See what’s new and share feedback on the specific changes listed in each version.
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grrrz said:
it seems nobody was intersted in what this mac arm could actually run. apparently not much for now. if you're doing anything productive obviously you're gonna have to wait a few years.
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I’m here from The Future with a message: you were wrong.

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tarjan said:
Not perfect, but use teams as a web app inside of microsoft edge as an apple native app. Most functions "work" though there are some challenges. HUGE improvement in terms of cpu and battery utilization. Obviously not optimal, but hey... it is better.
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I have been running Teams as a web app inside Chrome on my Intel Mac, but are now moving to a Mac M1 Max. Any reason to choose Microsoft Edge over Chrome when it comes to running Teams as a web app (I also log into Outlook using Chrome).
 
Adobe InDesign first universal release version (v17.0.1.105) is extremely unstable on my M1 Mac mini running Big Sur with a clean install and not much other software install — for me and many other on the Adobe forums (though many others are not seeing all the bugs). InDesign crashes every few minutes at least for me, sometimes immediately after a reboot, the disappearing text bug (any frame you are working on the text becomes invisible, and at random points of editing becomes visible again, switching to/from Preview/Bleed/Normal mode is the workaround I found to constantly refresh the screen render to make it visible again but a complete PITA).

I got into the beta program and have been using the pre-release version 17.7.0.40 and it's generally quite stable in comparison. Still has the disappearing text bug but at least is usable (if frustrating).

At least it boots fast on an M1 Mac mini, like insanely fast compare to my old 2015 MBP 16" with 16 GB RAM.
 
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widEyed said:
Adobe InDesign first universal release version (v17.0.1.105) is extremely unstable on my M1 Mac mini running Big Sur with a clean install and not much other software install — for me and many other on the Adobe forums (though many others are not seeing all the bugs). InDesign crashes every few minutes at least for me, sometimes immediately after a reboot, the disappearing text bug (any frame you are working on the text becomes invisible, and at random points of editing becomes visible again, switching to/from Preview/Bleed/Normal mode is the workaround I found to constantly refresh the screen render to make it visible again but a complete PITA).

I got into the beta program and have been using the pre-release version 17.7.0.40 and it's generally quite stable in comparison. Still has the disappearing text bug but at least is usable (if frustrating).

At least it boots fast on an M1 Mac mini, like insanely fast compare to my old 2015 MBP 16" with 16 GB RAM.
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Thanks for the report, not what I wanted to hear as I use InDesign a lot at times. I’m on the prerelease too so might have to jump on that. But InDesign and Mac have a long history of having an unstable relationship during the first versions of a new macOS. :p
 
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gank41 said:
From what I can gather from the comments on that page, someone else forked the Transmission GitHub app to help get it ready for AS but it’s not official yet, but available via the nightly builds.
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That's good, right?:D I really don't understand how development of these types of programs work. All I know is, I need one that runs natively on my M1 powered mac. Same for Teams and OneDrive.
 
TrancyGoose said:
That's good, right?:D I really don't understand how development of these types of programs work. All I know is, I need one that runs natively on my M1 powered mac. Same for Teams and OneDrive.
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From my understanding in what was explained, the nightly build should be native, but it isn’t considered stable.
 
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