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tarsins

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I'm in the UK and as much as I'd like to use iMessage, if I did I'd have almost no-one to talk to. I don't know anyone who uses iMessage, including iPhone users.
 
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Spindel

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I just noticed that my OneDrive updated to native and so far a positiv change is (as I've noticed with all apps that has started out as Intel and then been upgraded) that RAM usage has dropped significantly.

Before under rosetta OneDrive usually (unless it bugged out) sat at about 2-2,5 GB RAM usage, now it sits comfortably just bellow 800 MB.

Congrats MS, it only took you 1,5 years. Now do Teams also.
 

MrGunny94

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I just noticed that my OneDrive updated to native and so far a positiv change is (as I've noticed with all apps that has started out as Intel and then been upgraded) that RAM usage has dropped significantly.

Before under rosetta OneDrive usually (unless it bugged out) sat at about 2-2,5 GB RAM usage, now it sits comfortably just bellow 800 MB.

Congrats MS, it only took you 1,5 years. Now do Teams also.
Teams is already Native besides Core Audio..

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You can find the latest build here

However it's not official but works great for production use.

1.5.00.17204 (osx-x64 + osx-arm64) - published on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 11:28 AM with 204 MB: https://statics.teams.cdn.office.net/production-osx/1.5.00.17204/Teams_osx.pkg
 

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I just noticed that my OneDrive updated to native and so far a positiv change is (as I've noticed with all apps that has started out as Intel and then been upgraded) that RAM usage has dropped significantly.

Before under rosetta OneDrive usually (unless it bugged out) sat at about 2-2,5 GB RAM usage, now it sits comfortably just bellow 800 MB.

Congrats MS, it only took you 1,5 years. Now do Teams also.
Is it from AppStore?
 

Spindel

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Is it from AppStore?
Yes I have the App Store version.

If there is App Store version of an app I always use that first and foremost, much more convenient. The old way of installing stuff from discs or websites suck compared to using an appstore or packet manager (like in Linux).

EDIT:// Va faan jag hade ju lika gärna kunnat svara dig på svenska :p
 
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southerndoc

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Is it from AppStore?
App Store version was made AS/Universal earlier in the month. I forced updated mine (basically if it's not listed in the updates tab, you can go to your account and look at purchased apps, select the app, and the open will change to updated if one is available).

Glad I waited because I didn't have to uninstall, reinstall, or do anything special. Worked like a charm!

Now if only the following would update, I will be all AS/Universal:
  • SynologyDrive Client
  • Microsoft Teams (realize there is a preview build out, but my work won't allow me to use preview builds for reliability reasons)
  • Logitune and Logitech G-hub
  • RealVNC Viewer/Server
 

MrGunny94

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The Apple Silicon native version of Teams isn't even in beta- this is an early development version, so some caution should be used when using it in a production environment.
Yeah been using and no issue in the latest versions, I always got the PWA as a backup though
 

southerndoc

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Yes I have the App Store version.

If there is App Store version of an app I always use that first and foremost, much more convenient. The old way of installing stuff from discs or websites suck compared to using an appstore or packet manager (like in Linux).

EDIT:// Va faan jag hade ju lika gärna kunnat svara dig på svenska :p
I much prefer App Store versions even if development lags a few weeks behind standalone versions. It's autoupdated without other processes running and is much easier to install. Usually one click as opposed to going through 20 clicks, and updating standalone apps usually involves downloading an installer and going through the process again. Very few apps will update in the background efficiently without using the App Store.
 
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Spindel

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I much prefer App Store versions even if development lags a few weeks behind standalone versions. It's autoupdated without other processes running and is much easier to install. Usually one click as opposed to going through 20 clicks, and updating standalone apps usually involves downloading an installer and going through the process again. Very few apps will update in the background efficiently without using the App Store.
I totally agree.

And also there is the windows situation (sadly some companies use that model on Mac OS also) where each suit has it's own background process/launcher that to be fair handles updates etc good.

But still running an extra process for each software house just to handle updates is damn inefficient.

For the few games I do play on my Mac I always first look if they are available on AppStore before going to Steam etc. Appstore will always be my number 1 choice.

1 appstore/package manager to rule them all for each OS install is what the industry should strive for.
 

gank41

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Metadatics was just updated for Apple Silicon. I use this app often...

 
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Yes I have the App Store version.

If there is App Store version of an app I always use that first and foremost, much more convenient. The old way of installing stuff from discs or websites suck compared to using an appstore or packet manager (like in Linux).

EDIT:// Va faan jag hade ju lika gärna kunnat svara dig på svenska :p
Ja precis, hade fungerat bra ;)

(I did answer his edit in Swedish, just fooling around)
 

southerndoc

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It would be really nice for Microsoft to push the Teams tech preview to the next step (beta, early release). Apparently they don't think it's stable enough or at least hasn't been tested enough.

Microsoft Teams -- Apple Silicon-native in 2030!
 

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It would be really nice for Microsoft to push the Teams tech preview to the next step (beta, early release). Apparently they don't think it's stable enough or at least hasn't been tested enough.

Microsoft Teams -- Apple Silicon-native in 2030!
I’m using it everyday. Works perfect
 

Rafterman

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Microsoft response about Teams:

We ask that our users please not use unvalidated, unsupported versions. Recently some sites have published articles about a Microsoft Teams Beta release of a Universal Binary application that runs natively on both M1 and Intel based processors. The information in these articles is inaccurate, and they have no backing from Microsoft. In the articles, there are links to early builds on our CDN that are for internal use only. We can confirm we are working on delivering a Universal Binary offering of Teams, and the CDN link in these articles does contain a downloadable version. However, we discourage users from trying this version (and any other versions that do not come from official Microsoft distribution channels), as it is still in the early phases of testing, fixing, and validation. Thank you.

*sigh* 17 months since M1 release and Microsoft is still in "the early phases."
 

TheMinecraftHunter

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They wrote a new response yesterday in https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...-every-day/m-p/3546383/highlight/true#M114086

"These builds are still in pre-release, these are not yet marked or signed by us. If you decide to use, use at your own risk. I do not recommend using builds that are not directly signed and released by us.

We're still in the process of gathering an update to share. Once we have it, I'll post here."
 

VivienM

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*sigh* 17 months since M1 release and Microsoft is still in "the early phases."
This is what happens when people write software in Electron. If I look at my list of still Intel-only software, almost all at this point are Electron apps.

And that makes sense - anyone who thinks Electron is a good idea has absolutely no appreciation for anything, so what's an extra emulation layer on top of something of insane ugliness and idiocy?
 

Rafterman

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Looking at my own list, of 50 or so third party software titles, only about 10 are still intel - and 4 of those are the installer pieces of Adobe Creative software, like Creatve Desktop installer. ALmost all of Adobe apps are Apple now. Box and Teams are the only significant ones left as Intel.

I tired to keep Rosetta off, but I just couldn't accomplish that.
 

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They wrote a new response yesterday in https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...-every-day/m-p/3546383/highlight/true#M114086

"These builds are still in pre-release, these are not yet marked or signed by us. If you decide to use, use at your own risk. I do not recommend using builds that are not directly signed and released by us.

We're still in the process of gathering an update to share. Once we have it, I'll post here."
Well, I’m using it without any issues. The intel one causing more issues for me anyway
 

iSuzan

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MS Teams is the only important software left, which is still Intel. Really hope to see a native silicon version soon.
And no - I would NOT install any alpha or beta of Teams. In the meantime it is the most important software our company use.

But... I have to admit: no problems with Intel Teams at all. Runs prefectly on my M1 MBP.
 
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