All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[dk001]

I cant believe you didn’t go through all 1,000+ posts and see us discussing that...

...but yeah, it really is interesting.

EDIT: Sorry...just read your correction. I couldn't say...but as far as I have seen, the 3D buildings were always like this and covered the same area for the past few years. But as I mentioned, they will change with the update as they did in San Francisco as we discussed at the very beginning of this thread.

I gave this a bit more thought this morning as I reread my posts on this (Texas and 3D). Let me give it one more shot.
This is the style I saw before the latest update (for Austin Texas).

Before 3D update this is the style I saw (using San Antonio Tx as an example):
Just shapes / outlines of the buildings. No 3D. Where 3D ended I would see outlines like this.

After the last update the shapes are missing. (Austin Tx example)
The names of the locations are there. Neither 3D buildings nor shapes.

Hope this helps. Thx for your patience.

 

[MozMan68]

I gave this a bit more thought this morning as I reread my posts on this (Texas and 3D). Let me give it one more shot.
This is the style I saw before the latest update (for Austin Texas).
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Before 3D update this is the style I saw (using San Antonio Tx as an example):
View attachment 849510 Just shapes / outlines of the buildings. No 3D. Where 3D ended I would see outlines like this.

After the last update the shapes are missing. (Austin Tx example)
View attachment 849513 The names of the locations are there. Neither 3D buildings nor shapes.

Hope this helps. Thx for your patience.

I got it now.

So..not sure...but the San Antonio shot looks like some of the non-3D areas in the new map.

I think the main thing to remember is that Maps is not tied to updates other than when they choose to release certain features like look around or mass UI updates like they did with iOS 11.

Very few areas are consistent, include 3D, don’t include 3D, have true 3D in satellite view while other areas don’t.

I think you are just seeing the evolving nature of Maps as it is updated server side. That’s kind of what I love about it and what we talk about regularly on here. Stuff is constantly being updated and evolving (yes...sometimes temporarily devolving), but Maps is about as close to constantly changing app Apple has.

Most people only notice when a major update or entire layer is changed.

 

[dk001]

I got it now.

So..not sure...but the San Antonio shot looks like some of the non-3D areas in the new map.

I think the main thing to remember is that Maps is not tied to updates other than when they choose to release certain features like look around or mass UI updates like they did with iOS 11.

Very few areas are consistent, include 3D, don’t include 3D, have true 3D in satellite view while other areas don’t.

I think you are just seeing the evolving nature of Maps as it is updated server side. That’s kind of what I love about it and what we talk about regularly on here. Stuff is constantly being updated and evolving (yes...sometimes temporarily devolving), but Maps is about as close to constantly changing app Apple has.

Most people only notice when a major update or entire layer is changed.

That could be. Just seemed strange that even the building outlines were gone.
Thx!!

 

[G1Ravage]

Haven't seen any noticeable visual changes yet. But behavioral:

Driving into work, Apple Maps gave me a route that has never happened before. A route that not even Google Maps ever takes me on, but Waze often does. I'm not sure *why* Apple Maps took me on this short detour off the highway, as there was no traffic in the area when I arrived.

Traffic information is working 100% perfectly for me. In fact, I'm seeing *more* traffic information on local roads now.

 

[MozMan68]

Haven't seen any noticeable visual changes yet. But behavioral:

Driving into work, Apple Maps gave me a route that has never happened before. A route that not even Google Maps ever takes me on, but Waze often does. I'm not sure *why* Apple Maps took me on this short detour off the highway, as there was no traffic in the area when I arrived.

Traffic information is working 100% perfectly for me. In fact, I'm seeing *more* traffic information on local roads now.

Oh yeah...I noticed that as well (routing change). Maps always took me through the front entrance of my neighborhood and then suddenly the past two weeks it takes me to the straight beforehand that brings me around the back way to my house (which I actually prefer). I had been following the front entrance way just because Maps told me to and to see if was indeed faster. I think it actually is in some cases as I stay on the main road leading up to it longer and a faster speed limit.

 

[G1Ravage]

Just noticed something new...the new Hudson Yards development on the West Side of Manhattan is now rendered in detail, shaded yellow as it contains a shopping mall within.

 

[MozMan68]

Just noticed something new...the new Hudson Yards development on the West Side of Manhattan is now rendered in detail, shaded yellow as it contains a shopping mall within.

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Yep...looks liek they changed it simply because of the mall...but surprised they didn't add The Vessel while they were at it. Wondering if that will be in the new Maps?

 

[G1Ravage]

Yep...looks liek they changed it simply because of the mall...but surprised they didn't add The Vessel while they were at it. Wondering if that will be in the new Maps?

I would assume so. No other buildings have been updated anywhere within the city. I still have "empty lots" in my area which have held giant apartment buildings for a few years now, but Apple Maps hasn't updated yet. I'm assuming that will all come with the new maps.

 

[DukeSilver79]

I went to Kansas City Missouri over the weekend. I’m usually a Google Maps user, but on the iOS 13 beta 4, it was crashing like crazy. So I used Apple Maps and after a long day, punched in the nearest IHOP. It ended up tracking me about 1.2 miles from where it actually was, telling me that I had arrived. I remembered why I have had a hard time trusting Apple Maps in the past.

 

[MozMan68]

I went to Kansas City Missouri over the weekend. I’m usually a Google Maps user, but on the iOS 13 beta 4, it was crashing like crazy. So I used Apple Maps and after a long day, punched in the nearest IHOP. It ended up tracking me about 1.2 miles from where it actually was, telling me that I had arrived. I remembered why I have had a hard time trusting Apple Maps in the past.

Details? What specifically was the error? The marked location...the address??

 

[DukeSilver79]

Details? What specifically was the error? The marked location...the address??

I just did a search for the closest Ihop in the maps app and it was about 3.4 miles away. I started following it and was told that "I had arrived." But it was a little more than a mile away, based on my wife using google maps on her iPhone 7 ios 12 phone. It was too far south. I'm using the iphone 13 beta on my iPhone 8.

 

[MozMan68]

I just did a search for the closest Ihop in the maps app and it was about 3.4 miles away. I started following it and was told that "I had arrived." But it was a little more than a mile away, based on my wife using google maps on her iPhone 7 ios 12 phone. It was too far south. I'm using the iphone 13 beta on my iPhone 8.

Okay...but what specifically was wrong? Did Maps have the wrong address? Was it the correct address and it took you to the wrong location?

You said the iHop in question was not where it took you, but over a mile away. I guess I'm wondering how you knew it was trying to take you to that exact iHop. What was at the location it took you to? Did you file an error report in the app?

I've never experienced that type of error before...Apple (or Google in some cases) either has the wrong address or simply does not have the POI listed at all. I'm sure your error is one of the examples I gave above...just curious which.

 

[G1Ravage]

POI info outside of major cities seems to be hit or miss at times.

I once navigated to a Carvel ice cream shop in small town in upstate New York. The POI location was on the wrong side of the street, and about halfway up the block from where it was supposed to be. I filed a report with Apple Maps, and it was corrected within a day or two.

 

[G1Ravage]

Okay...I think I'm seeing a marginal performance improvement since the update to iOS 12.4.

While driving via Apple CarPlay, the view transitions (such as when turning a corner) seem to be a bit smoother than they were previously. Not perfectly smooth, but better.

Also, while swiping around on my phone, certain highway shields and route markers tend to "stick" a bit better to their appropriate road line, even resizing slightly as I move around. Previously, they would simply disappear if the map was moved a certain way.

 

[G1Ravage]

Had another interesting routing coming home from work, one that previously I would only get through Waze. Definitely some behind the scenes fine-tuning taking place.

 

[MozMan68]

Had another interesting routing coming home from work, one that previously I would only get through Waze. Definitely some behind the scenes fine-tuning taking place.

I think they’re just releasing sub layers now before the graphical map layer is released. I’ve noticed the traffic changes as well...like, all new “better” routes.

And I want to believe it as it would explain how crappy the traffic info was last week while they “changed it”....

 

[MozMan68]

Boy...you don’t appreciate Maps until you’re in a car that’s 3 days old and its navigation system can’t find a single POI you type in.

I wonder how soon (if ever) manufacturers that have integrated Car Play will allow map apps to display as nicely as their native map (like in the dash in the digital display)??

 

[MozMan68]

Well...something has changed as Maps is kicking butt right now. Super fast, routing is on par, traffic updates are back on track.

One thing I noticed on a quick trip to Chick Fil A for dinner tonight. While I was in the drive through line, I hit "home" to see the routes offered, but didn't hit "go" as i still had a few minutes before leaving. In that time, I watched one of the suggested routes change in real time to a better option. First time I have ever seen that.

 

[lukfunk]

Has anyone reported missing or incorrect roads, paths or rivers in the New Maps area? I wonder how quickly Apple can make manual base map changes, as opposed to POIs.

 

[MozMan68]

Has anyone reported missing or incorrect roads, paths or rivers in the New Maps area? I wonder how quickly Apple can make manual base map changes, as opposed to POIs.

I think you may not see much of that happening until more of the USA is launched. Seems like they’re pretty busy trying to get that done.

Outside of simple POI changes that seem to bug people more than anything, I wouldn’t expect “map” changes to start taking effect on a regular basis until 2020.

 

[dk001]

Has anyone reported missing or incorrect roads, paths or rivers in the New Maps area? I wonder how quickly Apple can make manual base map changes, as opposed to POIs.

There have been so many little change recently I am waiting until things settle a bit.
AM is finally showing the roads in my neighborhood (first reported 3 years ago) however the businesses listed are a couple of years out of date.

 

[G1Ravage]

Waze failed miserably this morning. Due to a major truck accident on the New Jersey-bound George Washington Bridge, the westbound Cross Bronx Expressway was deadlocked for hours. News radio estimated a 95-minute wait to get to the bridge from around the Bruckner Interchange.

Fortunately, I was heading in the opposite direction this morning...leaving Manhattan, and heading eastbound on the Cross Bronx Expressway. I was moving just fine, but I could see all the cars not moving on the westbound side. It was baaaaaad. A lot of the drivers were leaving their cars and walking around.

When I got to my destination, out of curiosity, I decided to open some navigation apps, and pretend I needed a route back to my office in Midtown Manhattan. Waze inexplicably sent me straight to the Cross Bronx, saying there was only a six minute delay. Google Maps and Apple Maps sent me elsewhere to avoid the Cross Bronx, while offering similar travel times overall.

 

[Kung]

I just did a search for the closest Ihop in the maps app and it was about 3.4 miles away. I started following it and was told that "I had arrived." But it was a little more than a mile away, based on my wife using google maps on her iPhone 7 ios 12 phone. It was too far south. I'm using the iphone 13 beta on my iPhone 8.

I'm not so sure this was specifically Apple Maps' fault. I say this because 2 weeks ago we also happened to be in KCMO, and Apple Maps *and* Google Maps both were like a mile and a half off when we were searching for the nearest BBQ joint.

We ended up having to actually (*gasp*) call to verify where they were like neanderthals. LOL I have to wonder how much of this is the fault of Apple Maps/Google Maps, and how much is the business's fault, or some other 3rd party that feeds info into them.

 

[MozMan68]

I'm not so sure this was specifically Apple Maps' fault. I say this because 2 weeks ago we also happened to be in KCMO, and Apple Maps *and* Google Maps both were like a mile and a half off when we were searching for the nearest BBQ joint.

We ended up having to actually (*gasp*) call to verify where they were like neanderthals. LOL I have to wonder how much of this is the fault of Apple Maps/Google Maps, and how much is the business's fault, or some other 3rd party that feeds info into them.

Well, he still hasn't clarified what the exact issue was other than the iHop wasn't where Apple Maps said it should be.

I know Apple likes to be in control and do everything themselves, but I'd really like to see a web based Apple Maps application that made it easier for people to make corrections. Or verify "super users" by their Apple ID and let them make corrections to POI's instantly with a follow up review by Apple staff.

 

[Kung]

Well, he still hasn't clarified what the exact issue was other than the iHop wasn't where Apple Maps said it should be.

I know Apple likes to be in control and do everything themselves, but I'd really like to see a web based Apple Maps application that made it easier for people to make corrections. Or verify "super users" by their Apple ID and let them make corrections to POI's instantly with a follow up review by Apple staff.

Well yeah, true (to your first point). Until that's clarified it's kinda impossible to determine 'fault.'

And I completely agree. I WILL say that whereas submitting updates to Maps used to be ATROCIOUS (it took me 5 tries and a freaking YEAR to get changes made to the road I LIVE on - LOL), now it's far better. (The last change I submitted took a whole hour.) With that said, I like the 'superuser' idea.