None...but best guess based on Apple Map van schedules and previous updates, first half of 2020 IMHO.
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None...but best guess based on Apple Map van schedules and previous updates, first half of 2020 IMHO.
IPP 12.9 G2 - PB6
Thought I was seeing things on my IPP ... Guess I was, and wasn't.
Directions from Point A to Point B.
I open it in Apple Maps (AM) and I have a single choice to choose from.
Shrink the map, double check the address, open AM back up, and now I have two choices.
I can shrink, open, look - rinse & repeat and I get either one or two choices seemingly randomly.
This is new. And this is without killing the map in task manager.
Reported.
Thought I was seeing things on my IPP ... Guess I was, and wasn't.
Directions from Point A to Point B.
I open it in Apple Maps (AM) and I have a single choice to choose from.
Shrink the map, double check the address, open AM back up, and now I have two choices.
I can shrink, open, look - rinse & repeat and I get either one or two choices seemingly randomly.
This is new. And this is without killing the map in task manager.
Reported.
IPP 12.9 G2 - PB6
Thought I was seeing things on my IPP ... Guess I was, and wasn't.
Directions from Point A to Point B.
I open it in Apple Maps (AM) and I have a single choice to choose from.
Shrink the map, double check the address, open AM back up, and now I have two choices.
I can shrink, open, look - rinse & repeat and I get either one or two choices seemingly randomly.
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This is new. And this is without killing the map in task manager.
Reported.
Hey, you're a vague circle, too.
In 2020, according to Apple, who said that the new maps will be rolling out to the whole of the US this year (2019) and “selected countries” in 2020.
Considering the amount of work that has already been done for the UK maps (speed limits, Apple surveys), it is a safe bet to assume the UK will be in a first batch of these “selected countries”.
Soooo...after trying a few more things yesterday, things were still bad driving to work last night. But walking from my office back to my car, the diagnostic app was showing a perfect connection!
Once inside the car, the overall satellite connection went down slightly, but not too bad.
However, the compass, which was *perfect* while walking to the car, was suddenly turned around almost 180 degrees once I got into the car. In the below photo, I was facing northeast while sitting in the car.
I used Waze to drive to the Bronx and pick up my fiancee. It worked well, except for a brief moment on the Trans-Manhattan Expressway (which is underground), where Waze lost my *precise* location. I turned into a circle, but the circle was still following me. Once out in the open air again, it was back to normal immediately.
Dropped her off at the train station, then went to Burger King to get food. Did a little test. While walking out to the car, I had my compass open. It was perfect. As soon as I sat down in the car, the compass very slowly started ticking off to the left, at a rate of about one degree per second. It stopped moving once I was around 90 degrees off my actual position. I opened Apple Maps, and it showed me facing the same direction as the compass, which was off by 90 degrees. I opened Google Maps, and it showed me off by 180 degrees.
I exited the car and walked away. As I walked away, the compass slowly returned to normal. I returned to the car, and used Apple Maps to navigate to some errands. There were no circles to be seen...it immediately loaded into the normal arrowhead, except that the arrow was initially pointing in the wrong direction. Once I started driving, it behaved just fine.
After running the first errand, I returned to the car. And for the first time in days, it showed me facing in the correct direction. That was encouraging. I opened the diagnostic app again, and everything looked pretty good.
So it seems like things are slowly improving. Maybe by tomorrow things will be back to normal. One can only hope.
Once inside the car, the overall satellite connection went down slightly, but not too bad.
However, the compass, which was *perfect* while walking to the car, was suddenly turned around almost 180 degrees once I got into the car. In the below photo, I was facing northeast while sitting in the car.
I used Waze to drive to the Bronx and pick up my fiancee. It worked well, except for a brief moment on the Trans-Manhattan Expressway (which is underground), where Waze lost my *precise* location. I turned into a circle, but the circle was still following me. Once out in the open air again, it was back to normal immediately.
Dropped her off at the train station, then went to Burger King to get food. Did a little test. While walking out to the car, I had my compass open. It was perfect. As soon as I sat down in the car, the compass very slowly started ticking off to the left, at a rate of about one degree per second. It stopped moving once I was around 90 degrees off my actual position. I opened Apple Maps, and it showed me facing the same direction as the compass, which was off by 90 degrees. I opened Google Maps, and it showed me off by 180 degrees.
I exited the car and walked away. As I walked away, the compass slowly returned to normal. I returned to the car, and used Apple Maps to navigate to some errands. There were no circles to be seen...it immediately loaded into the normal arrowhead, except that the arrow was initially pointing in the wrong direction. Once I started driving, it behaved just fine.
After running the first errand, I returned to the car. And for the first time in days, it showed me facing in the correct direction. That was encouraging. I opened the diagnostic app again, and everything looked pretty good.
So it seems like things are slowly improving. Maybe by tomorrow things will be back to normal. One can only hope.
Does anyone have any info about the flight features that were mentioned? I'm running the beta software and haven't seen anything related to that in the Maps app at all and I did look for it on my recent flights. For now, I'm thinking it's because my most recent flight was out of O'Hare... Illinois as a whole does not have the new map yet.
I honestly don't believe that feature has anything to do with the new Maps layer being released. But it may be waiting for iOS13 to be officially released as it has to synch up with some other airline data software. To me, it's an independent layer and could show up at any time between now and next month. Hopefully everywhere though and for all airlines.
That makes sense. When I tried looking for it on my last trip, I thought maybe selecting the gate number on the indoor maps would show that data. I definitely agree in hoping for everywhere and all airlines. All it would take is for one airline operator to not play along and you could really screw up this feature. I've also wondered why SFO doesn't have indoor maps. I'm there enough that I don't need it, but it would be a big help for others who don't fly through there often. (But I'm pretty sure this is dependent on SFO and not Apple). Can't put the data in if it's not given to you!
Yep, apps have to "donate" that information to Siri. Airlines will have to implement it in their apps, so it'll have to wait for GM at the earliest.
I assumed they will be using an app like FlightStats or one of the other dozen ones out there to get the data instead of pulling from each individual airline. But maybe you're correct.
I've watched the WWDC session which covered this feature; I am correct.
Not sure which video you were trying to link to, but it didn't work. Which one is it? I watched all of the Maps ones from this year and don't remember the flight info part being mentioned.
That has nothing to do with the data for Maps though. That is simply the code info for the individual apps to allow users to ask Siri for certain info within their own app. And that info could apply to ANY app that wants to supply flight info, not just airlines.
The Maps flight data is nothing more than that, data. That is why I think Apple would use a single source that already grabs that data to make it easier for updates versus relying on hundreds of individual companies to do it.
I'm not saying it won't happen that way, but it seems unlikely.
Look, I’ve watched the session. You have not, if the video’s still broken for you. It follows that I know more about this than you do. I try not to say things that I don’t know are correct, especially when challenged.
Here’s what Apple has to say regarding this functionality:
The key word here is your. Apple’s not going to list out every departure and arrival from every gate for every airport. Not only would that be unwieldy at best, but it presents limited utility: Why would I care about another flight going halfway across the world from where I’m going? I don’t need walking directions to that gate.
So, then, how exactly do you think Maps gets the information to provide to the user? With the data provided by iOS 12.x and earlier, Maps cannot magically infer what flight a user is going to board — even if you have a boarding pass in Wallet, Maps can’t access that pass or the information on it (and rightfully so). That information must be donated to Siri by an app, and Siri will then surface it in Maps (and via a notification, apparently) at what it determines to be the right time/place.
The Siri intents model is used for more and more functionality throughout Apple platforms. It’s used for Siri Shortcuts, the Siri watch face, and more. It's not "simply the code info for the individual apps to allow users to ask Siri for certain info within their own app." And sure, other apps could also implement this functionality. It’s not difficult at all to adopt — which is why I’m not concerned about adoption and Apple likely isn’t either.
Is this a new car? There are certain GM models I've driven (GMC SUVs) that seem to have something in them that confounds the compass and/or GPS. Or do you have any new electronics in the car (new head unit, etc...)?
Strange ...
I also could not run the link on my IPP (PB6) but it launched just fine in Chrome on my Thinkpad (Win10).
Strange...
I don’t disagree with the first part of your analysis...and that’s what I was basically saying in my response regarding the individual apps.
I haven’t watched that video yet, but I don’t see anything in the code description for the flight info where it takes the flight info I have from my Delta app for example and somehow transfers it to Maps.
I’m guessing it is something like the calendar integration?
Again, not saying you are wrong, I was hoping for more info and yes, ALL the info available for access.
Imagine this scenario: I’m not the one flying, but I have the airline info and simply want to map out gate info and where to go from one gate to the next for my wife so I can text it to her. I’d like to be able to enter that into Maps and get the “route”.
Believe it or not, I do this quite often by looking up the info on FlightStats for her flights and then taking a pic of the airport map in Maps and drawing a line to show her where she is landing and where she needs to walk to.
To your point, I’m guessing it will be limited to my own flight info accessible on my own phone. Will watch the video this afternoon.
So after reading this if I am understanding correctly for this to work your on device reservation app has to feed the info to Siri or allow Siri access to check and take it. It is dependent on your reservation app allowing this function.
Yes...I think that is what he is saying. I was just wondering if there was another way in Maps to enter the info versus pulling it from another app.
The video doesn't work for me. Not sure if they pulled it or there is an issue on my end. Oh well...
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Oh...might be my browser...checking.
Yep, apps must provide the information to Siri (though it’s really, really easy to implement this functionality).
I suppose it’s possible to use it with others’ flight info, but that’s not the intended use. It’s very utilitarian in nature, perhaps to a fault, just like Siri itself.
Let’s use a flight departure as an example use case. When you’re able to check in, Siri may notify you that you’re able to check in and provide a notification that sends you straight to the app to check in. Then, when you're at the airport, Siri is supposed to surface your gate as a suggestion in Maps right below the search bar, from which you can get walking directions to your gate (assuming it's an airport with indoor maps).
Got the video to work and yes, it is very clear in there how it works. You are indeed correct about the Siri integration factor and that it will be limited to that. No different than it has worked for restaurant reservations or calendar appointments which come up in Maps today. They've basically just expanded that function with the addition of new code categories for travel app information.
I assumed from them mentioning it separately that it was more than that. I guess not.
And yeah, since the code is for individual apps to integrate (like my Delta app), we won't see it in action until next month when their apps are updated for iOS13. Even with its limitations, it will be cool to see how it works as far as indoor mapping.
Nope. I've been driving the same car for the past two years. And I've had the same phone since last September when it came out. Nothing has changed in the car, other than the navigation system update I installed last week. I wonder if that somehow neutered Apple CarPlay....
I don't think so though, because even if I *don't* plug in my phone, and just open Apple Maps on my phone and stare at it, the same issues persist. It seems to get *slightly* better with each passing day. Maybe by the end of the week it'll be perfect again. Maybe it'll coincide with the Northeast update.