All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[Alan Gordon]

Updated Maps has nothing to do with iOS version, only the new iOS13 specific features like Look Around, CarPlay enhancements etc. The map data itself is available on iOS12 or 13 assuming you are lucky enough to be chosen by the servers to see it.

Heck, even iOS 9.3.5 users benefit from the new data.

 

[MozMan68]

I'm beginning to wonder if those ramps are for emergency access like others along the route. I'll have a better look over the weekend when I travel near there. Still of all the GPS nav apps/sites, none use it as guidance like new Apple maps.

I think you're right...nothing navigates on either of them. I'm sending a correction to Apple Maps as well.

 

[whsbuss]

Where? Up until this year, Apple would have nothing to do with street names as they were supplied by TomTom or other providers. Only the new Maps has the info supplied by them.
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Updated Maps has nothing to do with iOS version, only the new iOS13 specific features like Look Around, CarPlay enhancements etc. The map data itself is available on iOS12 or 13 assuming you are lucky enough to be chosen by the servers to see it.

Lucky?!? Well I lost my home location.

 

[G1Ravage]

I'm on iOS 12.4 so why am I seeing the updated maps?

I dunno but I'LL TRADE WITH YOU RIGHT NOW SEND ME YOUR PHONE

*cough*

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.529...4hCraSgnTUKSkdc1Pnyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Google StreetView shows those ramps blocked off near the road with signs saying it's a "private road". Very bizarre. There's clearly no exit marked for it, so I guess it's not part of the highway system. Apple must've included it in its new maps based on satellite imagery alone.
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I'm still waiting on some reports to be corrected from the first week of June, but this afternoon, I had multiple notices of corrections/updates I submitted having been updated.

Some of the changes were made, and some weren't:

However, the most interesting one was the following:



So, earlier this year, a Dairy Queen Chill and Grill was built and opened in Dawson, GA. They opened in June, and I submitted a report the weekend prior to opening.

However, and this is weird, but the listing keeps switching back and forth (for me) from being located in Dawson to being shown in Albany, GA on Dawson Road, where another Dairy Queen is located.

However, even when it's in the right city, it's at the wrong location, still. They moved it, but they moved it to the wrong location (a block or two, which is closer than the block farther away that it was). They also ignored my note that the business accepts Apple Pay. Strangely, there's an option to toggle Accepts Apple Pay off if the business is listed as accepting it, but no ability to toggle it on for accepting Apple Pay.

I've had similar experiences in trying to get updates in on the old maps system. Moving POIs to a different locations gets done within a day or two, I've noticed. But changing the POI name is hit or miss.

Also, despite my many suggestions to improve "entry location" to POIs, Apple has never updated any of them.

 

[whsbuss]

I dunno but I'LL TRADE WITH YOU RIGHT NOW SEND ME YOUR PHONE

*cough*

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.529...4hCraSgnTUKSkdc1Pnyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Google StreetView shows those ramps blocked off near the road with signs saying it's a "private road". Very bizarre. There's clearly no exit marked for it, so I guess it's not part of the highway system. Apple must've included it in its new maps based on satellite imagery alone.
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I've had similar experiences in trying to get updates in on the old maps system. Moving POIs to a different locations gets done within a day or two, I've noticed. But changing the POI name is hit or miss.

Also, despite my many suggestions to improve "entry location" to POIs, Apple has never updated any of them.

Interesting. Usually private road in turnpike language is emergency access/egress points.

 

[G1Ravage]

LOL Something I noticed today. In the 3D satellite view (old maps), the traffic lines literally fall off the edges of roads that aren't represented.

 

[Freakonomics101]

Where were you experiencing lag? What type of phone do you have, and were you navigating using Apple CarPlay?

Lag as in I’ll be closer to a turn than what the map displays. I then end up missing the turn when it’s making me think it’s the next turn ahead. I have found Google Maps to be better when it comes to that. I have the iPhone X. And I don’t use CarPlay.

 

[G1Ravage]

Lag as in I’ll be closer to a turn than what the map displays. I then end up missing the turn when it’s making me think it’s the next turn ahead. I have found Google Maps to be better when it comes to that. I have the iPhone X. And I don’t use CarPlay.

When I was troubleshooting earlier issues with my car's navigation, I discovered similar issues. Just seems like my phone has trouble keeping up in a moving vehicle if I'm not connected to CarPlay. But in CarPlay, everything is perfect.

On a different topic, I still don't have the Northeast update. But things continue to improve with Maps in general. In the below example, Maps is getting much better at showing highway shields when interlined with other highways. It even makes sure to specifically show where they branch off.

 

[Katjubu]

Lag as in I’ll be closer to a turn than what the map displays. I then end up missing the turn when it’s making me think it’s the next turn ahead. I have found Google Maps to be better when it comes to that. I have the iPhone X. And I don’t use CarPlay.

I noticed that. Not sure if it's just a scaling/display issue or something like that but it always seems like I'm further from a turn than I actually am as well. Don't imagine it's any sort of inaccuracy with the GPS as Google/Waze have no issues.

 

[G1Ravage]

Interesting...I still don't have the new maps, but now I'm intermittently experiencing the "invisible traffic" glitch that was mentioned earlier in the thread. Where Apple Maps is showing the horrible traffic, but still routing through it, and giving ETAs that are representative of there being no traffic at all. I took some screens below.

It seems to switch up every time I open the app. First, it'll tell me the fastest route to work takes me through the Bronx on the Cross Bronx Expressway during rush hour, and that it'll take only 33 minutes (impossible). But if I close the app and reopen it, it'll correctly keep me in Queens, with an ETE of closer to an hour (much more realistic at 5:00 PM). But it keeps switching back and forth every time I open the app. Very strange.

Also, note that when it's "glitched", it only gives me one possible route. When working right, it gives me three options.

Wrong:

Right:

 

[G1Ravage]

Hmm...just noticed something brand new. Normally, when driving home, when I turn onto my block, my final instruction shown on the screen would be "800 ft --- Arrive at XXXX Something Street". But tonight, literally a few minutes ago, it showed "800 ft --- Arrive at Home".

So rather than show my address, it used the name of my saved POI.

Now, that's also sort of wrong, and I wonder if I did something to glitch it out. As I've mentioned before, I have some issues with where Apple Maps displays my "home". I also have my "home" address saved as "Garage". Typically, when I get into my car somewhere, Apple Maps will always suggest to go to "Garage", or wherever home is. But if I'm only a few blocks from home, Maps will never suggest to go home, as I guess they figure I'm already nearby. I can get directions anyway by asking Siri for directions home. Oddly, this usually causes the icon representing my destination to be a red POI pin, rather than the usual blue house icon. It also would send me to the "wrong" position for my garage entrance.

But if I go into the CarPlay keyboard and type in "Home", it'll send me to the correct garage position, with the blue house icon, except it lists the destination as "Home", instead of the usual "Garage". Except tonight, when it sent me to the wrong position.

So I don't know if the funkiness of trying to navigate home caused Maps to behave differently, or if this was a legitimate change. I guess I'll find out when I drive to work in a little while. I'll see if it says "Work" in the directions box, or if it lists my work address as it always did.

Either way, it seems things are continuing to change, even without the official Northeast update.

 

[MozMan68]

A few videos of driving from Manhattan over to Queens to the US Open.


https://imgur.com/gallery/a7kC538

 

[G1Ravage]

A few videos of driving from Manhattan over to Queens to the US Open.


https://imgur.com/gallery/a7kC538

OH MY GOD YOU TOOK VIDEOS

*bows*

I see differences already in the highway directions. Heading for the Midtown Tunnel on the old maps, it directs you to I-495 and the Queens-Midtown Tunnel. Now, it looks like it's directing you onto the Queens-Midtown Expressway, which is...fine, I guess. That's the historic name of the highway, before the entire thing in Queens became the Long Island Expressway. But, there are ZERO signs in Manhattan mentioning the Queens-Midtown Expressway, so perhaps that's a poor choice of directions on Apple's part.

I also see they did a beautiful job of modeling the old World's Fair buildings at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. Although otherwise, the buildings seem to be a bit washed out and hard to see in the videos. I'm assuming that's because it's a phone recording.

On my own side of things, the whole "Home" directional thing must have been a one-time glitch. It's back to showing my address, and I can't duplicate the original occurrence.

 

[MozMan68]

OH MY GOD YOU TOOK VIDEOS

*bows*

I see differences already in the highway directions. Heading for the Midtown Tunnel on the old maps, it directs you to I-495 and the Queens-Midtown Tunnel. Now, it looks like it's directing you onto the Queens-Midtown Expressway, which is...fine, I guess. That's the historic name of the highway, before the entire thing in Queens became the Long Island Expressway. But, there are ZERO signs in Manhattan mentioning the Queens-Midtown Expressway, so perhaps that's a poor choice of directions on Apple's part.

I also see they did a beautiful job of modeling the old World's Fair buildings at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. Although otherwise, the buildings seem to be a bit washed out and hard to see in the videos. I'm assuming that's because it's a phone recording.

On my own side of things, the whole "Home" directional thing must have been a one-time glitch. It's back to showing my address, and I can't duplicate the original occurrence.

I was in an Uber, so I was able to adjust the zoom level to see some details. Traffic was surprisingly light last night at the time, so he was able to drive fast enough in some spots to have the map zoom out quite far.

Other than that, I was given more than one option for directions. Traffic indications seemed accurate. The building renderings/locations were amazing. And yes, as we got close to the tennis center, I was amazed. Although, I might as well take the train the rest of the weekend. They are really not set up for decent drop off and pick up there.

 

[G1Ravage]

I was in an Uber, so I was able to adjust the zoom level to see some details. Traffic was surprisingly light last night at the time, so he was able to drive fast enough in some spots to have the map zoom out quite far.

Other than that, I was given more than one option for directions. Traffic indications seemed accurate. The building renderings/locations were amazing. And yes, as we got close to the tennis center, I was amazed. Although, I might as well take the train the rest of the weekend. They are really not set up for decent drop off and pick up there.

Don't forget to grab a slice at Amore Pizza nearby. It's what all the US Open employees do.

 

[MozMan68]

Don't forget to grab a slice at Amore Pizza nearby. It's what all the US Open employees do.

I have late afternoon/night tickets all weekend. Last night was liquid dinner.

Heading downtown to the 9/11 memorial today and looking for some good $1.50 slice pizza place for lunch.

 

[gwhizkids]

I have late afternoon/night tickets all weekend. Last night was liquid dinner.

Heading downtown to the 9/11 memorial today and looking for some good $1.50 slice pizza place for lunch.

Here ya go! One train to Houston St.

 

[G1Ravage]

Someone on Reddit says they received the Northeast update sometime this morning.

Still nothing for me. ;(

 

[jmontana]

If it helps, I don’t have it either.

 

[gwhizkids]

If it helps, I don’t have it either.

I still have it only on my phone.

 

[whsbuss]

I still have it only on my phone.

Me too

 

[G1Ravage]

*waits for MozMan to share more New York experiences*

 

[MozMan68]

*waits for MozMan to share more New York experiences*

Heading to the high line this morning for a walk. New Maps shows it so clearly.

 

[G1Ravage]

Sweeet, even The Vessel was modeled. Looking good. Enjoy your day.

 

[MozMan68]

I have to say, now having walked it 3 days straight, even the detail between the subway stop and the tennis center is amazing. The “boardwalk”, the covered area as you walk o to the grounds, every court...amazing.

And for comparison, Google.