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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
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Sorry I didn't say it very clearly.
I installed the Time Machine backup to my Kingston A1000, which failed every attempt to boot with a crossed circle. Then I overwrote the same A1000 with a fresh High Sierra installer. After this it booted to my Time Machine backup.
It continues to work correctly after that. It's one of those things I don't need to understand because ...it worked... but still weirds me out.
Yes I believe the Time Machine backup had already been updated to High Sierra. That's what it is now too... although the Disk Utility you get from holding Option at startup appeared to be an older version when I booted from the Time Machine backup than the fresh installer.
[doublepost=1547074106][/doublepost]A quick overview!
I just got a PM asking me to update my post with links since this thread is 100+ pages and a little hard to get into. In an effort to contribute and help others here's a quick summary:
The basics
If you've updated to High Sierra on your internal drive, your boot rom should be already updated to work with a third party SSD.
Remove the bottom cover of your laptop, disconnect power to battery, remove drive, install new drive with adapter, reconnect battery, boot Mac to installer or backup, install system on new drive. You're good to go.
If your old SSD is dead and you didn't update to High Sierra, you need to find a stock apple AHC SSD and do that. Don't waste your time, it's the only way.
Comparison tables
Table of most recent SSD consumption and performance test comparisons
Table of compatible firmwares, mac models, drive types
The rest
Post stating correct hibernation fix command
The adapter - Rev B Sintech adapter with tools. I used this one - don't remember where but somewhere in this thread I have a vague memory of someone saying not to use the Rev A., and that the long black (C?) only works with MBP
An early post with a good description of different drive types, pros/cons, and describing the basic issues with upgrading drives / Also shows how to use Kapton tape to insulate the adapter
My success was with
- mid 2013 MBA
- boot rom MBA61.0107.B00
- Kingston A1000 512gb
- Sintech Rev B adapter
If I have anything inaccurate here please correct me.
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I've modified my boot rom on 2013 late macbook pro 15. But after a while I got "potential problem" error report. I think this is related to eficheck security, https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/macos-high-sierra-weekly-efi-security-check which is done automatically each week.
So that means, if we modified bootrom to use NVME, then we get error report every each week.
Is there anybody experiencing same problem with me?
So that means, if we modified bootrom to use NVME, then we get error report every each week.
Is there anybody experiencing same problem with me?
As per Cmd+Q's guide, I am making a custom boot ROM for my 2013 rMBP by injecting an NVMe driver from a 2015 MBP.
I notice that that the Mojave installer and the 10.14.2 updater have different NVMe drivers:
I assume I should just use the latest, but thought I'd run this by you lot in case you have different opinions or experiences to share.
(My laptop is running OSX 10.14.2.)
P.S. I took the 10.14.2 ROM image from a file named MBP114.fd instead of MBP114_0184_B00.fd mentioned in the guide. I assume it's the right image for 2015 MBP, but would be happy to be corrected (I'm not entirely sure how this file naming convention works.)
I notice that that the Mojave installer and the 10.14.2 updater have different NVMe drivers:
$ shasum 10.14*/*.ffs
49118b11acc91d2755ff78df20f4c3aa543c12a3 10.14/File_DXE_driver_51116915-C34B-4D8E-86DB-6A70F2E60DAA.ffs
3fac37ba6de4d3fea28242fbf27e6aefd68c30bc 10.14.2/File_DXE_driver_51116915-C34B-4D8E-86DB-6A70F2E60DAA.ffs
49118b11acc91d2755ff78df20f4c3aa543c12a3 10.14/File_DXE_driver_51116915-C34B-4D8E-86DB-6A70F2E60DAA.ffs
3fac37ba6de4d3fea28242fbf27e6aefd68c30bc 10.14.2/File_DXE_driver_51116915-C34B-4D8E-86DB-6A70F2E60DAA.ffs
I assume I should just use the latest, but thought I'd run this by you lot in case you have different opinions or experiences to share.
(My laptop is running OSX 10.14.2.)
P.S. I took the 10.14.2 ROM image from a file named MBP114.fd instead of MBP114_0184_B00.fd mentioned in the guide. I assume it's the right image for 2015 MBP, but would be happy to be corrected (I'm not entirely sure how this file naming convention works.)
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Hi. Yes, I try more options and combinations with power management settings - pmset, but with same result. Macbook with new NVME disk lost battery power more quickly (in sleep mode) than with the original disk =/.
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Hi.
Im trying to finding it, but I dont know where is it, but I read it on some various webs. I think one of them was Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/9jahb5/macos_mojave_battery_drain_when_sleep_on_macbook/
For example one guy write this:
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ciccilleju
2 points·1 hour ago (10.1.2019)
I have 3 laptops: Macbook Air 2015, Macbook Air 2018, Macbook Pro 2015.
Both Macbook air 2015 and 2018 have Mojave updated to the latest version, the Macbook Pro has High Sierra.
If I full charge them and let them sleep over the night, in the morning I have this:
Macbook Air 2015: 12-15% of battery gone Macbook Air 2018: 5-10 % of battery gone Macbook Pro 2015: 0% of battery gone
So, it's clear that the problem was introduced by Mojave.
I tried everything: SMC reset, NVRAM reset, clean install of Mojave, disabled useless background services. NOTHING.
The only thing that has worked was the "hibernatemode 25" setting. BUT that's just an "expedient", not a solution.
I want to have back the possibility to let the mac sleep for one week and having almost the same battery charge when i use it again, like it should be for a 1500 € laptop.
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Im thinking that this problem was creted with MOJAVE. Mojave has different power management (pmset) settings that Siera. I have one High Siera PC and pmsetting are different.
Im trying to test my macbook with original Apple SSD and battery power drawing is bigger than before (before update to latest Mojave and BOOT ROM), but slower than if you use NVME =/.
Say, anyone have a report on using the SX8200 Pro 1TB?
There’s a family member with a 2015 2.8 dual GPU I told about all this and that might be perfect for him.
My read is that it’s nearly a Samsung EVO 970 performance wise but it draws less power and perhaps runs cooler?
From my own experiences with the same laptop as this person, I know power/heat a concern in the top spec 2015 15”
There’s a family member with a 2015 2.8 dual GPU I told about all this and that might be perfect for him.
My read is that it’s nearly a Samsung EVO 970 performance wise but it draws less power and perhaps runs cooler?
From my own experiences with the same laptop as this person, I know power/heat a concern in the top spec 2015 15”
Hi Guys.
I think that this one help me with power drawn problem:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...y-while-sleeping.2111961/page-6#post-26691335
Standard change settings with "sudo pmset -b tcpkeepalive 0" cant help before.
Im testing this settings from video, but look like a helping with lost power under sleep mode.
I have a Macbook Pro: mid 2014 + ADATA XPG SX8200 480GB version SSD and Sintech (version B, small black) adaptor.
I update my macbook to Mojave, actual latest 10.14.3 beta version 4 from 11.1.2019 (This update still cant help with power drawing under sleep).Latest BOOT ROM.
I confirm helping and writing more later.
I think that this one help me with power drawn problem:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...y-while-sleeping.2111961/page-6#post-26691335
Standard change settings with "sudo pmset -b tcpkeepalive 0" cant help before.
Im testing this settings from video, but look like a helping with lost power under sleep mode.
I have a Macbook Pro: mid 2014 + ADATA XPG SX8200 480GB version SSD and Sintech (version B, small black) adaptor.
I update my macbook to Mojave, actual latest 10.14.3 beta version 4 from 11.1.2019 (This update still cant help with power drawing under sleep).Latest BOOT ROM.
I confirm helping and writing more later.
Installed Samsung Evo 970 SSD to a 2015 MacBook Pro 13" Retina and getting good read/write speeds and stabilty. Unfortunately I'm seeing more drain during sleep on Mojave. Does anyone have of a cure against that or is it due to 970's excessive power draw which I thought affects mostly battery during use?
Yes, but they haven't done it yet and probably won't since all MacBooks now have the SSD soldered to the motherboard, Sierra supports nvme, and Apple has even updated/changed the nvme drivers with each os release.
does that help? http://www.clickbd.com/bangladesh/1...chip-apple-macbook-pro-13-a1502-mid-2014.html you can either connect to the header (this is also where a Matt card would go in) or directly to the 8pin chip!
SX8200 Pro 1TB on MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013) with sintech short adapter here. So far so good, 1300mb/s write and 1500 mb/s read, so same as SX8200 but that must be due to the limitation of the PCI express bus built into that model. Maybe it will be twice as fast on the 2015 mbp, but no idea.
Unfortunately I also have the hibernation issues (can"t return from it without a hard reset) like everyone with nvme on mac seems to have right now.
Sleep works though, so I'm on pmset -a hibernatemode 0 autopoweroff 0 standby 1 - and that runs smooth until you run out of battery. Also not too much power drain it seems during sleep, so okay.
DriveDX reports 28 degree celsius during idle and up to 39 degrees after running Blackmagic continuously, not too hot I'd say.
iStat menus report a power draw of ~0.2A-0.4A while idle and up to 1A when in use.
If the hibernate issues are fixed I'd say it's a perfect upgrade for any retina MBP from 2013-2015, but I'm pretty happy already as I had an OWC Aura before which drew more power, was slower and also had the hibernation issue.
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Edit @8:40pm, one day later. After 24hrs in sleep mode with occasional wake-ups a couple of times, I still had 93% of battery, which is no huge power drain, IMO. Would really recommend doing the upgrade if you can afford to be cautious and shut down the laptop when power runs out.
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mine Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB on MacBook Pro 15" mid 2015 with sintech long adapter. Incredible speed compared with my Apple SSD 256gb
Do you think that CMIzapper would be able to create a modified Matt Card under the problem of our macbooks ?? so that after inserting it into the motherboard, the problem of sleeping and hibernation disappears, because if YES, I already place an order
http://www.cmizapper.com/products/mattcard.html
maybe someone will write to CMIzapper and ask if he would be able to offer something like that
http://www.cmizapper.com/products/mattcard.html
maybe someone will write to CMIzapper and ask if he would be able to offer something like that
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I got around 40degree celsius while running benchmark, idle around 33 and don't have any hibernation/sleep issue so far.
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You shouldn't have hibernation issues because your MBP is from 2015. 2013 and 2014 owners aren't as fortunate, like me since I'm using a late 2013 13".I got around 40degree celsius while running benchmark, idle around 33 and don't have any hibernation/sleep issue so far.
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Guys.
Im reading this topic for a long time, trying figure out how fix my macbook. (late 2013 13)
My main problem is: Original SSD dead, no HS installation and here in my country any used oem SSD go cost "a lot".
I also dont have too much experience unsoldering things. This is why im trying figure out some software solution to this problem.
Your guys think is possible use clover (hackintosh) on a USB stick, and try use NVME ktexts to make the mac be able to see the NVME SSD? (I have the sintech adapter, im waiting the kingston a1000 now)
The only purpose here is make the mac be able to recognize the nvme ssd, even if I need use the USB stick to boot all the time.
In the moment im using a mojave installation in a external SSD (I used a patched version of dosdude1 to be able to install it without a internal drive). The Mojave Installation of course is using the old version of the bootrom. But is running, even without any internal drive.
Im reading this topic for a long time, trying figure out how fix my macbook. (late 2013 13)
My main problem is: Original SSD dead, no HS installation and here in my country any used oem SSD go cost "a lot".
I also dont have too much experience unsoldering things. This is why im trying figure out some software solution to this problem.
Your guys think is possible use clover (hackintosh) on a USB stick, and try use NVME ktexts to make the mac be able to see the NVME SSD? (I have the sintech adapter, im waiting the kingston a1000 now)
The only purpose here is make the mac be able to recognize the nvme ssd, even if I need use the USB stick to boot all the time.
In the moment im using a mojave installation in a external SSD (I used a patched version of dosdude1 to be able to install it without a internal drive). The Mojave Installation of course is using the old version of the bootrom. But is running, even without any internal drive.
No... as far as I understand it there are no NVMe kexts - NVMe support is baked into the boot ROM.
However, there is no need for specific kexts anyway. You should be able to use the SSD as is, you just need to disable hibernate, which is im my opinion no big deal. You find the respective Terminal command to do this here and here
However, there is no need for specific kexts anyway. You should be able to use the SSD as is, you just need to disable hibernate, which is im my opinion no big deal. You find the respective Terminal command to do this here and here
If I didn’t want the extra speed and just wanted stability and storage could I use a m.2 SATA drive with the black sintech adapter and not have hibernate issues in a 2014 MacBook Air like the Samsung 860evo.
