Sequential load times are pretty much irrelevant. Your old drive probably has poor random read/write speeds.do the later versions of macOS require a fast SSD? i am on montery and my ssd is 600mb/s read and write, and the loading of the apps at startup is slow.
should i upgrade to an SSD that has 1200 mb/s read and writes and will it make a difference?
Best first post ever! 🤓Hi, I’ve just registered to this forum to say thank you for the detailed information in this thread and share my experience and findings.
I'd see if I can start up smoothly from an external device. If I could I'd wonder if the many crashes might've screwed up the macOS installation on the internal drive. Alternatively I might try safe mode from the internal. I'd also wonder if the long adapter might have anything to do with the crashes and failed hibernation. I might see if a short adapter would do any better.What’s my best course of action? What would you do in my shoes? And what the hell is the actual problem(s) here that's causing all of the horrible startup and hibernation crashes on a 2015 Macbook Air?
I have 2015 MBA as well. DO NOT USE the Sintech LONG adapter!! I did same and found when I replaced the bottom back on the chassis it was pressing pretty hard down on the drive I was using. Check out sig for specs. I went with the SHORT Sintech adapter. Been working fine all along, but having long adapter and bottom pressing down will inevitably cause failures later on.. Hopefully your motherboard is still ok and no cold solder joints.. I would maybe try and get the short adapter and try it again. I ended up finally using the long adapter when I got my 2015 MBP this summer.. Good luck.Hi all, I’ve just registered to this forum looking for advice on the issues I have been having after upgrading my 2015 MacBook Air’s internal ssd for storage from the original 128gb to a Crucial P2 1TB ssd. Thanks to all who contribute here and I sincerely appreciate all the guidance here and any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Background:
-About 1 year ago after putting a lot of research into how to do this upgrade, and after reviewing this thread’s original post info, I decided to attempt this upgrade as I was constantly running out of storage. I settled on the Crucial P2 1 TB ssd with a Sintech (long) adapter. I upgraded the MacOS from El Capitan to Mojave and finally to Monterey. I followed all of the steps carefully and the install went smoothly. After it was complete, my macbook was running smoothly, starting up without issue, and even sleeping/hibernating without issue.
Not too long afterwards though I began to have crashes after hibernation. The battery life also seemed to take a reduction from preinstall. Eventually, the battery even became noted as “service recommended”. But starting up and shutting down still wasn’t any issue, and I had read that a minority of users had issues with hibernation and battery life, so I just continued to use the computer and always fully shut down instead of just closing the lid.
Now however, starting up the computer after a crash or having shut down is almost impossible. The loading bar at startup almost always slows to a stop, gets, stuck, and the screen blacks out with a flash. I am only able to get the computer started up after MANY attempts, whether plugged in or not, and fully charged battery or not. Everything works while started up with no issues, but obviously I need to fix this now as it has gotten bad.
Things I have tried so far:
-Updated MacOS so that the boot ROM would update to the latest version
-This post haha. See below for all system info, pmset -g output, last panic report file, and black magic disk speed test
-I looked into updating the ssd firmware, but crucial’s support page only gives two upgrade options:
“If your Crucial P2 SSD currently has firmware P2CR010, you will upgrade to P2CR012.
If your Crucial P2 SSD currently has firmware P2CR031, you will upgrade to P2CR033.”
My drive has neither of those firmware versions, it has P2CR048, so I’m not sure if I can update it further. I didn’t want to start an installation of windows on my mac yet since it seemed a little challenging and could have issues with that as well as noted in #8: “BootCamp installation issues” of this threads original post
-I have not tried physically cleaning/re-seating the ssd hardware yet. I’m doubtful that could fix all these issues as I was extremely careful with the install, and don’t want to risk any more problems with that before I cover all other possibilities, including potentially trying an install with the old ssd or a different new ssd.
-I have not installed istat to check the temperature yet.
-I have not tried the kexts/open core legacy patcher yet
All stats below:
MacOS: Monterey v12.7.6 (originally El Capitan, then Mojave before the ssd upgrade last year)
Mac: MacBookAir7,2
Processor: Dual-Core Intel Core i5 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM/System Firmware Version: 489.0.0.0.0
SSD: Crucial P2 M.2 2280 1 TB (firmware version: P2CR048) + SinTech NGFF M.2 NVME long adapter)
pmset -g output:
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What’s my best course of action? What would you do in my shoes? And what the hell is the actual problem(s) here that's causing all of the horrible startup and hibernation crashes on a 2015 Macbook Air?
I am thinking I will try OpenCore Legacy Patcher, and if I’m still having all the same issues, I’ll pop the hood and try cleaning/resetting the ssd, because at that point I’ll be so frustrated and ready to just give up and put the old SSD back in (that will hopefully work just the same as before!) or maybe try a different SSD. I’m a bit skeptical of these ssd adapters now, so if I did try a new 1 TB ssd, I’d probably try an OWC product made for MacBooks that doesn’t require the adapter. But I’m not sure those are any good anyways.
Ugh I just wanted to continue using the MacBook I like without running out of internal local storage! Sorry for the long post, and thanks again for any help.
Is that the actual pic for the ad?Can you figure out what is wrong with this picture?
I've read that OWC is expensive and not as reliable as others. I have the 13". You could go the used Apple route and try and find an exact replacement, but it would be used. I did that for a very short time and filled the 512gb stock I had. Then I went with the Short Sintech adapter and the ADATA 2TB drive. See sig. Been 5 years I think now. Still running well. There are others that are cheaper and less power hungry than the ADATA. I have a SK Hynix 2TB in the 15" MBP that I got this summer. That works well too. I personally wouldn't get an OWC. Their TB dock is good that I have, but I wouldn't do their drives. Hope you have a good TimeMachine backup before it fails. It's up to you which way you go.My beloved 11 inch MacBook Air 2015 (7,1) has been giving me "The computer restarted because of an error" messages for a while and Etrecheck yesterday reported that the stock 500GB SSD is failing.
I'd be intrigued to down the NVME route, but I'd first like to explore native options as I depend on this Mac for work. I currently have read 1500MB/s and write 1300MB/s so I think it won't get faster than that.
But which are the natively-supported options actually?
I've read about OWC Aura but see there are various models. Checking OWC's site there's a 500GB Aura Pro X2 but here in the Netherlands the only one I find is a 480GB version. OWC has a 480GB Aura N2 which seems to be a different drive.
I've also seen comments about Transcend drives which work natively – is that right?
If I can't find a reasonably-priced natively supported drive I'll go the NVME route.
Thanks in advance for your help
philip
The Aura drives are not native. They're just NVMe drives with Apple connectors. And IMO they're 2nd tier quality drives, at a comparatively high cost. If you were to consider an NVMe drive, definitely do not choose Aura. Consider something like the SK Hynix P31 Gold. Just make sure you have everything backed up first and make sure you have the right tools.My beloved 11 inch MacBook Air 2015 (7,1) has been giving me "The computer restarted because of an error" messages for a while and Etrecheck yesterday reported that the stock 500GB SSD is failing.
I'd be intrigued to down the NVME route, but I'd first like to explore native options as I depend on this Mac for work. I currently have read 1500MB/s and write 1300MB/s so I think it won't get faster than that due to the 4x lane PCIe 2.0 speed.
But which are the natively-supported options actually?
There are various models of the OWC Aura. OWC's site has a 500GB Aura Pro X2 but here in the Netherlands the only one I find is a 480GB version. OWC has a 480GB model but it's called Aura N2. Will there be a difference between these?
I've also seen comments about Transcend drives which work natively – is that right and which ones in that case?
If I can't find a reasonably-priced natively supported drive I'll go the NVME route.
Thanks in advance for your help
philip
The Aura drives are not native. They're just NVMe drives with Apple connectors. And IMO they're 2nd tier quality drives, at a comparatively high cost. If you were to consider an NVMe drive, definitely do not choose Aura. Consider something like the SK Hynix P31 Gold. Just make sure you have everything backed up first and make sure you have the right tools.
If you want a native drive, then buy a used Apple OEM drive. You can buy 512 GB Apple OEM drives for not too much money these days. I thought about it for my kid's 2015 MacBook Pro, but in the end I decided against it because I had already upgraded it from 128 GB to a native OEM Apple/Samsung 256 GB drive years ago, and it turns out even the 256 GB upgrade was unnecessary. There is still only 60 GB used on that machine, since most of the apps used are cloud based.
I have update 2 x MacBook Air 2015 with the Fanxiang AP2000Pro 1 TB without any issues and another MBA 2013 got the 512 GB SSD from them, bought it on Aliexpress and they are direct replacements, do not have any issues with sleep mode either.
The SK Hynix P31 Gold is popular here because it is less power hungry.Thank you for the reply and all the information. I'm hesitant to go the second-hand route for a drive if I can avoid it. And good point re OWC's reliability. A long time ago I had one or two drives fail on me (the old Mercury Electra) so perhaps OWC would not be a great idea.
I hadn't thought of how power hungry NVMEs can be and that's clearly relevant. I'll look into how the various options compare.
Did sleep work on both your machines (they run Monterey natively right)?
Check in the thread for people's experiences with the P41, but IMO the P31 would be preferred since it uses less power.Thank you very much for clarifying that, I didn't realise they aren't native. Yeah I'm rethinking the OWC option. The P31 Gold is difficult to find here in the Netherlands but I see its successor the P41 for 47 Euro for the 500GB and 79 Euro for the 1TB.
I have now placed an order for the short Sintech adapter from Sintech GmbH.
Just a clarification that these aren't native drives either.I have update 2 x MacBook Air 2015 with the Fanxiang AP2000Pro 1 TB without any issues and another MBA 2013 got the 512 GB SSD from them, bought it on Aliexpress and they are direct replacements, do not have any issues with sleep mode either.
You can try just without OCLP but power draw may vary, despite the P41’s decent efficiency you may find the draw is higher under macOS..This is really good to know, thank you. So do I understand it correctly that you just installed or cloned over macOS and then sleep "just worked"? No need for kexts or OCLP?
If you find battery drain is problematic or SSD performance is irregular you may want to try an install and see how it holds up (there may be some or negligible difference, I cannot say as it varies between SSD/machine setups..)I'm asking because the first post in this thread is (to me) a bit unclear It says first: "Note that macOS does not natively support full NVMe energy savings on these NVMe drives. To get full NVMe energy saving features on macOS, you need either: to manually install Lilu, NVMEFix and SsdPmEnabler.kext or to install OpenCore Legacy Patcher".
Those issues were most pervasive prior to macOS 11.x (there was a known issue where the NVME driver was faulty; this was fixed with an EFI update contained within 11.0)But further down it says that hibernation issues affect 2013-2014 laptops. I may misread this of course.
The SK Hynix P31 Gold is popular here because it is less power hungry.
To run any NVMe drive you first need to upgrade to a recent macOS version, since NVMe support was not present in earlier versions of OS X. If you're already on Monterey, then you're all set, because that means your Mac's firmware has already been updated to support NVMe drives.
Check in the thread for people's experiences with the P41, but IMO the P31 would be preferred since it uses less power.
I didn't use either though. I had used the Western Digital SN550 in my 2014 Mac mini, but that drive is a DRAM-less drive. Sleep worked fine with the SN550.
Just a clarification that these aren't native drives either.
You can try just without OCLP but power draw may vary, despite the P41’s decent efficiency you may find the draw is higher under macOS..
SK hynix Platinum P41 SSD Review: The Best Around (Updated)
The fitting successor to the popular Gold P31 is finally herewww.tomshardware.com
If you find battery drain is problematic or SSD performance is irregular you may want to try an install and see how it holds up (there may be some or negligible difference, I cannot say as it varies between SSD/machine setups..)
Those issues were most pervasive prior to macOS 11.x (there was a known issue where the NVME driver was faulty; this was fixed with an EFI update contained within 11.0)
Any later updates should also have these fixes applied..
In that case, I wouldn't get the P31 either.Yes that's the review I read. The P41 is not far from the P31 in many respects and the power draw is almost the same too. The thing is the P31 costs probably twice more than the P41 here in the Netherlands.
In that case, I wouldn't get the P31 either.
The P31 at retail is usually considerably cheaper than the P41. The P31 is older and somewhat slower (at least when not used in an external enclosure), but the P31 also runs cooler according to some reviews.
The main problem with SK Hynix drives is that they don't have as much of a retail presence in some countries, so places like Canada and the Netherlands don't have proper availability, hence the sometimes ridiculous pricing.
BTW, just in case anyone is wondering, SK Hynix is once of the top 3 memory manufacturers in the world. They, along with Samsung and Micron (Crucial) are the gold standard when it comes to memory products. In fact, Apple is a major customer of SK Hynix for memory chips. However, unlike Samsung and Crucial, they don't seem to prioritize retail to consumers very much, to the point that many consumers haven't even heard of them.
If that is the case it appears the MP44 should be more than sufficient for your usage case, you may not need to buy the P41 unnecessarily..Actually I exaggerated perhaps a little. The P31 Gold is only found afaik on Amazon.nl and costs 206 Euro for a 2TB version. The 2TB P41 is 119 Euro. Either is more than I'm willing to spend and also much larger than I need on this Air since I have all the files that I use it for in iCloud.
For smaller sizes I only find the P41. The 500GB version is 47 Euro which is reasonable and the same size as the drive that's failing.
I didn't know Hynix is one of the top three but I know it from RAM sticks I've bought in the past and they've performed well. And judging by the reviews at Tom's Hardware Hynix drives are really very good.
For now I'm waiting for the NVME adapter and I'll try that out with a Teamgroup MP44 I have lying around. Then I'll get the P41.
That drive is very similar to the Lexar NM790. Fast and relatively cool, with Chinese NAND and Chinese controller, but no DRAM.If that is the case it appears the MP44 should be more than sufficient for your usage case, you may not need to buy the P41 unnecessarily..
Teamgroup MP44 SSD Review: A Competent, Efficient Contender
Another excellent value SSD to tempt your walletwww.tomshardware.com