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iNICK20

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I usually don't watch the Follow My Delivery because everything shows up here late. Of course I've been hounding it today. Truck has driven right past my street twice, that I've noticed. ?‍♀️
Yep I seen it happen twice before. Crazy because Fedex normally shows 10:30am but usually shows up at 9:30am lol. But not with UPS.
 
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nateatlarge

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You can also just “upgrade” your old phone to the 13.0 GM IPSW in iTunes, then the transfer will work to the new phone. I confirmed it does work using the shift+click trick to upgrade.

not if you already had 13.1 public beta or developer beta. it says it in the print.
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My phone won’t connect to the Apple server. I can’t even use it. T-Mobile said they fixed it but of course nothing happened. Trying to chat with Apple but they’re down. Anyone know how to fix this?

Take your old SIM card and put it in your phone and make sure it is on WIFI.
 

iNICK20

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not if you already had 13.1 public beta or developer beta. it says it in the print.
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Take your old SIM card and put it in your phone and make sure it is on WIFI.
How do you think going from an OLED display to an LCD is gonna feel?
 

Elwots

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not if you already had 13.1 public beta or developer beta. it says it in the print.
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Take your old SIM card and put it in your phone and make sure it is on WIFI.

It does work, though. I did it to both mine and my wife’s phones so I could transfer data to our new 11 Pros. From 13.1 beta 3 to 13.0 GM no problem.
 

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It does work, though. I did it to both mine and my wife’s phones so I could transfer data to our new 11 Pros. From 13.1 beta 3 to 13.0 GM no problem.

Direct from apple.


If you're planning on getting an iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, or iPhone 11 Pro Max on launch day, you may run into an issue if you've been on the iOS 13 beta track this summer and plan to restore your new iPhone from a backup. If you updated to the iOS 13.1 beta when Apple released it in August, the backups you've made since then have all been on iOS 13.1. This is a problem if the phone on which you've installed the beta is also the phone from which you plan to restore your new iPhone, which, by all indications, ships with iOS 13.0.

Here's what you'll need to do to restore your new iPhone 11 from a backup of a phone on the iPhone 13.1 beta.

The problem

Because iOS 13.1 is a later version of iOS than 13.0, backups, whether to iCloud or iTunes, can only be restored to devices running iOS 13.1 or later, and are not backward-compatible with iOS 13.0.
Because iOS 13.1 won't release to the public until September 30, the iPhone 11 lineup will initially ship with iOS 13.0. This means that you won't be able to restore your iPhone 11 from a backup of, for instance, your iPhone XR if said iPhone XR has been running the iOS 13.1 beta.

While those on the developer beta have quite possibly been using the iOS 13.1 beta on a test device, it's quite possible that those users on the public beta track have installed iOS 13.1 on their primary (or only) iOS device. If you're someone that is running the beta, public or developer, of iOS 13, and are planning on upgrading to an iPhone 11, then this is for you.
The solution

The answer to this problem is, unfortunately, fairly convoluted, and depends on whether or not Apple releases beta versions of iOS 13.1 for the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, and iPhone 11 Pro Max.

As I see it, there are two possible scenarios.
Scenario 1: Apple doesn't release a beta

This is actually the simplest one. If Apple doesn't release a beta version of iOS 13.1 for its new phones, then that's that. You can either set up your iPhone 11 as a new iPhone, forego restoring from a backup, and update to iOS 13.1 on September 30, and maybe restore from a backup then.

Or you could hang on to your old, iOS 13.1-running phone and use that for another 10 days until the official release of iOS 13.1 to the public, at which point you can then set up your new iPhone 11.
Scenario 2: Apple releases a beta in the afternoon of iPhone launch day

This is more complicated, but it's how Apple has done things in the past. At some point on iPhone launch day, Apple should release a version of the iOS 13.1 beta for the iPhone 11 lineup. This should be available to both developer and public beta users, but you'll have to play it by ear.

Whatever the case may be, in order to upgrade your new iPhone to the beta, you'll need to activate it as a new iPhone first. Once you've set it up, enroll it in either the developer or public beta program (you'll need a developer account to do the former). Once you've done that, you can download the beta over-the-air as soon as it's available.

After the upgrade: Erasing your iPhone

Assuming Apple releases an iOS 13.1 beta for the iPhone 11, once you've upgrade your new phone to it, you'll want to erase it if you want to restore a backup from your previous iPhone. That's easily accomplished by a trip to Settings.
How to wipe all personal data and erase your iPhone and iPad

Restoring your iPhone from a backup

So, to recap: you've set up your iPhone 11, updated it to the iOS 13.1 beta, and now you've erased all of it. Once erased, your iPhone will still be on iOS 13.1. Now you can restore it from an iOS 13.1 backup of your older iPhone.

How to restore your iPhone or iPad from a backup
 
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Elwots

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Direct from apple.


If you're planning on getting an iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, or iPhone 11 Pro Max on launch day, you may run into an issue if you've been on the iOS 13 beta track this summer and plan to restore your new iPhone from a backup. If you updated to the iOS 13.1 beta when Apple released it in August, the backups you've made since then have all been on iOS 13.1. This is a problem if the phone on which you've installed the beta is also the phone from which you plan to restore your new iPhone, which, by all indications, ships with iOS 13.0.

Here's what you'll need to do to restore your new iPhone 11 from a backup of a phone on the iPhone 13.1 beta.

The problem

Because iOS 13.1 is a later version of iOS than 13.0, backups, whether to iCloud or iTunes, can only be restored to devices running iOS 13.1 or later, and are not backward-compatible with iOS 13.0.
Because iOS 13.1 won't release to the public until September 30, the iPhone 11 lineup will initially ship with iOS 13.0. This means that you won't be able to restore your iPhone 11 from a backup of, for instance, your iPhone XR if said iPhone XR has been running the iOS 13.1 beta.

While those on the developer beta have quite possibly been using the iOS 13.1 beta on a test device, it's quite possible that those users on the public beta track have installed iOS 13.1 on their primary (or only) iOS device. If you're someone that is running the beta, public or developer, of iOS 13, and are planning on upgrading to an iPhone 11, then this is for you.
The solution

The answer to this problem is, unfortunately, fairly convoluted, and depends on whether or not Apple releases beta versions of iOS 13.1 for the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, and iPhone 11 Pro Max.

As I see it, there are two possible scenarios.
Scenario 1: Apple doesn't release a beta

This is actually the simplest one. If Apple doesn't release a beta version of iOS 13.1 for its new phones, then that's that. You can either set up your iPhone 11 as a new iPhone, forego restoring from a backup, and update to iOS 13.1 on September 30, and maybe restore from a backup then.

Or you could hang on to your old, iOS 13.1-running phone and use that for another 10 days until the official release of iOS 13.1 to the public, at which point you can then set up your new iPhone 11.
Scenario 2: Apple releases a beta in the afternoon of iPhone launch day

This is more complicated, but it's how Apple has done things in the past. At some point on iPhone launch day, Apple should release a version of the iOS 13.1 beta for the iPhone 11 lineup. This should be available to both developer and public beta users, but you'll have to play it by ear.

Whatever the case may be, in order to upgrade your new iPhone to the beta, you'll need to activate it as a new iPhone first. Once you've set it up, enroll it in either the developer or public beta program (you'll need a developer account to do the former). Once you've done that, you can download the beta over-the-air as soon as it's available.

After the upgrade: Erasing your iPhone

Assuming Apple releases an iOS 13.1 beta for the iPhone 11, once you've upgrade your new phone to it, you'll want to erase it if you want to restore a backup from your previous iPhone. That's easily accomplished by a trip to Settings.
How to wipe all personal data and erase your iPhone and iPad
Restoring your iPhone from a backup

So, to recap: you've set up your iPhone 11, updated it to the iOS 13.1 beta, and now you've erased all of it. Once erased, your iPhone will still be on iOS 13.1. Now you can restore it from an iOS 13.1 backup of your older iPhone.

How to restore your iPhone or iPad from a backup

Once restored, your new iPhone 11 will be on the iOS 13.1 beta, and you can update to the release version of iOS 13.1 on September 30 when it launches to the general iPhone-owning public.

Lol I don’t understand what you’re getting at. That’s cool and all, but it works in real life.
 

nateatlarge

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Lol I don’t understand what you’re getting at. That’s cool and all, but it works in real life.

per apple you shoudnt be able to restore your data if you are on 13.1. to IOS 13.0 I am seeing people curupting the iclouid and trying to restore using IPSW or downgrading and losing access to the icloud backup till 13.1 is reinstalled
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How do you think going from an OLED display to an LCD is gonna feel?
I think it will be like going to 3rd base all over again for the first time...
 
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CKohkah

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Anyone seeing their shipping estimates change to something earlier lately? I’m still stuck at Oct 2 but was hoping that as the release date has come some might get pushed up.
 

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nateatlarge

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Oh jeez, that’s annoying. I’ve got the beta on my Xs Max but didn’t want it in the 11 Pro. Feh.

you can try to restore without upgrading it and see what it does. I been told im wrong so i guess ill wait and see
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The feedback assistance says its 17A5844a which means its normally the last build. could be wrong.
 
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Peen

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you can try to restore without upgrading it and see what it does. I been told im wrong so i guess ill wait and see
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The feedback assistance says its 17A5844a which means its normally the last build. could be wrong.

Won't let you, already tried. No biggie, just let it upgrade to GM on the 24th then you're back off beta.
 
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Jaedre

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you can try to restore without upgrading it and see what it does. I been told im wrong so i guess ill wait and see
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The feedback assistance says its 17A5844a which means its normally the last build. could be wrong.

Actually you may be right. they pushed up the release. lets see...
 
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