So before the update:
Replace button still works
After update:
Button doesn't work
Looks like they added something in the update to break it. Which means they did it on purpose. To stop tampering.
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Users Facing 'Error 53' Bricking Message After Third-Party iPhone 6 Home Button Repairs
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Replace button still works
After update:
Button doesn't work
Looks like they added something in the update to break it. Which means they did it on purpose. To stop tampering.
Definitely! Someone tries to install a fingerprint skimmer and it stops working.
That's better security than an ATM or gas pump!
Gary
Again, did you read my second paragraph? While it may stink I can understand why Apple does this as it sounds like they are in a no-win situation from unauthorized modifications according to the article.
This is not about making iPhone more secure, this is just a BLATANT money grab by Apple to milk the customers even more by making them use authorized repairs.
The reason this is NOT about security is because the iPhones CONTINUE To work after the unauthorized modification, but only stop working after the update. If it was about the security, Apple would brick the device immediately following the unauthorized repair, not after the fact.
It's like installing a huge metal vault in the bank after the robbery took place, what's the point? The damage has already been done.
If any person maliciously modified the touch ID and tried to hack it, he would have stolen the data by now, long before the update which bricked it.
The reason this is NOT about security is because the iPhones CONTINUE To work after the unauthorized modification, but only stop working after the update. If it was about the security, Apple would brick the device immediately following the unauthorized repair, not after the fact.
It's like installing a huge metal vault in the bank after the robbery took place, what's the point? The damage has already been done.
If any person maliciously modified the touch ID and tried to hack it, he would have stolen the data by now, long before the update which bricked it.
MAN!!! this is just crazy, what happened to you, happened to me exactly the same!! i live in cancun, but hell no im going to pay for something that they screwed up, this sounds like a bad move from apple, in a way that they say,
"oops! sorry friend, its our mistake but as you don't have warranty we cannot help you, but HEY!! here´s a new one for half a price!!"
**** THAT ****!!! I've been an apple boy since always but this seems like some ****ed up play by apple!
Anywhore, lets see up to where this scales.
It is up to the repair shop to make you aware of this. After reading this story I called the 3rd party repair shop that fixed the screen on an iPhone 5s. I assumed that the screen and the button are changed together. He told me that had he changed the home button he would have told me that I will get the error 53 message. He tells all his customers that and leaves it up to them to decide whether to go with his services or Apples'.
There are many third party repair shops that should not touch an iPhone and there are many good ones that know what they are doing. I went to a good one who even offered me a 60 day warranty on the repair.
Remember the iCloud photos celebrity hacking scandal?
Now imagine even with all the extra security those celebs were supposed to use in the first place (like having a password stronger than password, etc) JLaw or any other celebrity lost her iPhone. Imagine a hack following her around and now with unfet access to her phone can take it somewhere and actually have it broken open by a dodgy Touch ID replacing contact. Imagine how much THOSE photos would be worth.
In fact it wouldn't just be photos. It would be text messages. Emails. That persons entire private life.
Or imagine the state could do the same thing and break into your supposedly secure phone. Where's your right to privacy gone? Human rights trumps consumer rights.
Makes perfect sense
Apple should brick it.... it was done by an non-Apple repairer at an Apple store, since the third party should of told the user about the validating of Touch ID for securiy.....could not be done... and Apple could not know. I guess Apple thinks that "how can we force the user in the store" "lets brick the phone when such issue happens with an update if Touch ID was not validated"
Kind of restricts you them to repair only at an Apple store with Touch ID being an issue, but that's how it is... Apple's not gonna give this pairing method to third parties.. who knows what they will do with it and our security as we know will be lost.
Apple should brick it.... it was done by an non-Apple repairer at an Apple store, since the third party should of told the user about the validating of Touch ID for securiy.....could not be done... and Apple could not know. I guess Apple thinks that "how can we force the user in the store" "lets brick the phone when such issue happens with an update if Touch ID was not validated"
Kind of restricts you them to repair only at an Apple store with Touch ID being an issue, but that's how it is... Apple's not gonna give this pairing method to third parties.. who knows what they will do with it and our security as we know will be lost.
Like other updates this one is part of iOS 9. Apple made this assessment based on information you clearly don't have.
If you read into the story, it's been reported back to ios 8.3. So they didn't "add anything" in this update that wasn't already in the last... 5 or 6 is it?
The way see it, if modification was done, how can Apple know about it if it wasn't done by them.... to protect the customer they brick the phone if they try to update iOS.
Why would u wanna sacrifice something a third party who is not Apple ? For all u know they could have done something else.... them user would complain, some app got my fingerprint after this "repair which was not Apple"
It IS about security because the phone got bricked after the update..... Solution: either contact Apple, or don't upgrade your iphone. can't get easier than that. User may not be running latest iOS, and have issues with apps/development etc or whatever, but at least he has a phone that still works
Not Apple's fault.. They are protecting themselves because they don't know what's been done to impact security with an repair by third party.
Why would u wanna sacrifice something a third party who is not Apple ? For all u know they could have done something else.... them user would complain, some app got my fingerprint after this "repair which was not Apple"
It IS about security because the phone got bricked after the update..... Solution: either contact Apple, or don't upgrade your iphone. can't get easier than that. User may not be running latest iOS, and have issues with apps/development etc or whatever, but at least he has a phone that still works
Not Apple's fault.. They are protecting themselves because they don't know what's been done to impact security with an repair by third party.
Stop saying changing the screen causes this. That is a blatant distortion. Changing the Touch ID causes this to happen when the iOS is updated because the Touch ID has to resync with the secure enclave on the iPhone. This is when a difference between the non-oem Touch ID and the secure enclave is noted and the error 53 is triggered.
Go back and read the story at the first page and not the quote by some random user who does not know what was changed. I assumed that both are changed together but that is not the case. I was corrected by the repair shop that fixed an iPhone 5s screen for me.
u'r correct on this... they should, perhaps on power on, but then its probably something Apple can do for "security" reasons. Quite frankly, i dunno how it can be a valid reason IF its a bricked device already... the phone is busted, how can u access it ?
Apple has strange ways of looking at problems.
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Precisely
When one buys into Apple's locked down restricted world they own us.
It's as simple as that, they get all the money and all the control.
Nope, but at least I based my opinion on some article.
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But you know that. Why is this a surprise? This comes with the territory.
Didn't say it was a surpriseNope, but at least I based my opinion on some article.
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But you know that. Why is this a surprise? This comes with the territory.
Not if it was being done on mass though. As I said if replacing the screen causes the lock out as has been claimed and that's without changing the Touch ID sensor.
No distortion at all, you need to carefully read what I posted, you need to read what ifixit and the original story state, even the quote by Apple included in this story states the screen being replaced. I'll go by what they have stated as the newspaper story has been made based on them and their experiences and thus this entire thread and article are also based on 'some random user'.
No, but you're repeating a known "fact", so I just wanted to make sure you weren't surprised by it.Didn't say it was a surprise
You asked if I read your first paragraph in a prior post? I read the entire post.
Is the device in question sold as iPhone or iBank?
I am Apple just want my money.
I am also sure if you replace your fingerprint señor on 6P, your information is insecure.
Aren't you able to send it via mail???
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Im gonna go ahead and say Apple knows better than you.