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Unprocessed1

macrumors 65816
Jun 23, 2008
1,389
58
These campaigns aren't going to be effective.

I think Verizon needs to introduce the phone before starting to make these subtle "mystery commercials." I think 90% of the public won't understand what "Droid" is even referring to.

Granted, Android is a nice catch for Verizon.
 

Steve686

macrumors 68040
Nov 13, 2007
3,907
1,939
US>FL>Miami/Dade>Sunny Isles Beach>Condo
Had original iPhone and every new model release since then. Love them all for what they do.

Before iPhone had a Treo. It was good for it's time.

Tried a Storm for a few months with a new Verizon account all while keeping my 3G. Just couldn't get used to how the phone's menu system is used for almost everything.

So when I say iPhone truly is the best overall smooth and fluid user experience, it comes from a pretty limited cache of other phones and not some fanboyish loyalty which I personally think is stupid...which is what these adds feel like to me. It truly feels like the slimy adds you see politicians run during a heated campaign.
 

clevin

macrumors G3
Original poster
Aug 6, 2006
9,095
1
do you guys know which android device VZW is going to unveil in Nov?
nv, found it, its motorola droid

motorola-droid.jpg


more info, some specs are quite attractive

* 3.7″ screen with 854×480 (16:9 widescreen) capacitive touchscreen
* 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 Processor
* Wi-Fi, EV-DO
* 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and LED flash and video recording
* QWERTY Slider, 13.7mm thick
* 3.5mm headphone jack
* 16GB onboard storage with microSD expansion slot
* Android 2.0 'Eclair'
* Launches December 1st
 

Hutch1

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2008
677
20
Guelph, ON
iDont have a virtual keyboard
iDont have 75000 apps and counting
iDon't make it easy to sync and manage my media through iTunes
iDon't have a stable platform and frequently lock-up and crash

iPhone Does


I don't want the iPhone to be an Android phone or a Blackberry, if I wanted an Android phone or a Blackberry I'd buy one.

Can the iPhone be improve I'm sure as it has been done since Apple entered the cell phone industry just over 3 years ago. The iPhone will be improved but I'm sure it won't be improved by getting rid of what makes it the iPhone and copying the stuff from every other phone. It will never have a keyboard.
 

UngratefulNinja

macrumors 68000
May 9, 2009
1,606
0
Pennsylvania
Really? I'm not sure which high-powered ad firm you work for, but that commercial did everything right. Yes, I'm an iPhone owner, and yes, I love it.

Same here. I love my iphone and don't ever want to switch...but I thought it was an effective commercial :eek: All of those things were true. And the text on background caught my attention.
 

Small White Car

macrumors G4
Aug 29, 2006
10,972
1,468
Washington DC
Seriously, CDMA? Talk about limited coverage...

Who cares?

What good is my iPhone when I keep seeing threads telling me to not take it overseas because I'll get charged a million dollars for using it?

If "buy a local phone when you get there" is the advice for my iPhone, why should I care that I'd have to do the same for a Verizon phone?
 

gloss

macrumors 601
May 9, 2006
4,811
0
around/about
iDont have a virtual keyboard
iDont have 75000 apps and counting
iDon't make it easy to sync and manage my media through iTunes
iDon't have a stable platform and frequently lock-up and crash

iPhone Does


I don't want the iPhone to be an Android phone or a Blackberry, if I wanted an Android phone or a Blackberry I'd buy one.

Can the iPhone be improve I'm sure as it has been done since Apple entered the cell phone industry just over 3 years ago. The iPhone will be improved but I'm sure it won't be improved by getting rid of what makes it the iPhone and copying the stuff from every other phone. It will never have a keyboard.

Android actually does have a virtual keyboard now. It's not quite as good as the iPhone's, but it's certainly usable.

Also, confusingly, the ad is for the Motorola Droid, which is a handset that'll be using the completely revamped and redesigned Android 2.0 OS, which actually looks quite nice.

It's good to see other companies finally going for the throat here. Apple have plenty of improvements that they could make to the iPhone but have, for whatever reason, refused to.
 

Maclver

macrumors 68030
Nov 23, 2008
2,850
2,587
New Mexico
do you guys know which android device VZW is going to unveil in Nov?
nv, found it, its motorola droid

motorola-droid.jpg


more info, some specs are quite attractive

* 3.7″ screen with 854×480 (16:9 widescreen) capacitive touchscreen
* 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 Processor
* Wi-Fi, EV-DO
* 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and LED flash and video recording
* QWERTY Slider, 13.7mm thick
* 3.5mm headphone jack
* 16GB onboard storage with microSD expansion slot
* Android 2.0 'Eclair'
* Launches December 1st
I hope thats not it.... because its very very very ugle
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
15,028
3,003
St. Louis, MO
Who cares?

What good is my iPhone when I keep seeing threads telling me to not take it overseas because I'll get charged a million dollars for using it?

If "buy a local phone when you get there" is the advice for my iPhone, why should I care that I'd have to do the same for a Verizon phone?

Apparently enough people care that Verizon is converting their entire network to LTE, the global standard, instead of going with whatever CDMA's version of 4G is called.
 

RobertD63

macrumors 6502
Feb 17, 2008
403
42
A place
lol, how many people in the US do you think travel outside the country frequently? or infrequently? or ever?

your point really doesn't stand up at all.
Did you think about the traveling business men? I know a lot of these men dont leave the US but some do. Which makes the point stand.

As I see for this ad I think there going to attack a really big thing for anyone using enterprise. Did Apple ever fix the enterprise server issue in 3.1.2?
 

redman042

macrumors 68040
Jun 13, 2008
3,063
1,657
One thing these ads tell me is that no Apple product (phone, tablet, etc.) is going to Verizon any time soon, despite the occasional rumor to the contrary. Obviously, Verizon and Apple are not forming a business relationship. Instead, Verizon is taking the approach of pushing the alternatives and claiming they are better. Also it's clear Verizon still does not want to carry a handset that will overshadow them.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
Verizon's shooting themselves in the foot here, there's no way, even with a new network standard, that apple would give them the iphone now that they have this new campaign.

Carriers advertise lots of phones. Even ATT, exclusive home of the iPhone, is constantly adding other smartphones and talking about them.

I see ATT ads on TV for WinMo phones, and their wireless home page often showcases WinMo smartphones when viewers come in.

ATT's CEO has also publicly stated that they're eager to carry all the Palm Pre models. It also seems that ATT will be selling Dell Android phones next year.

I guess you think this situation is harsher, but even ATT and Apple have bashed each other in public, so an "iDon't" campaign from a competitor wouldn't stop business deals.

All that said, I don't think Verizon really cares if they get the iPhone or not. They'd take it, but they're not dying for it.
 

question fear

macrumors 68020
Apr 10, 2003
2,277
84
The "Garden" state
I think this ad would work well for Verizon if they actually centered a little more on what they mean by the "iDon't". Now WE know what they mean here at MR and other tech sites, but what about those who are looking for a new smartphone. They are greeted with an ad that says "iDon't......blah blah blah" and then see "Droid Does" and it ends. What do they really gain? I think they need to explain more of what product they're going after.

My fiancee (not a big tech geek) knew EXACTLY what it was about and why the second it appeared. And she thought it was hysterical. FWIW.
 

Primejimbo

macrumors 68040
Aug 10, 2008
3,295
131
Around
iDont have a virtual keyboard
iDont have 75000 apps and counting
iDon't make it easy to sync and manage my media through iTunes
iDon't have a stable platform and frequently lock-up and crash

iPhone Does


I don't want the iPhone to be an Android phone or a Blackberry, if I wanted an Android phone or a Blackberry I'd buy one.

Can the iPhone be improve I'm sure as it has been done since Apple entered the cell phone industry just over 3 years ago. The iPhone will be improved but I'm sure it won't be improved by getting rid of what makes it the iPhone and copying the stuff from every other phone. It will never have a keyboard.

Good Points! I don't know why they make a big deal about the keyboard either. If you had an iPhone long enough you can type just as good. I now have a hard time typing on my work phone that has a real keyboard. I also hope you are right that the iPhone will never have a keyboard.
 

JD914

macrumors 6502a
Sep 24, 2007
754
0
Dutchess County NY
Even though I dislike Verizon with a passion I have to give them props for their ad. I think it strikes Appple right at the "core" and knocks them down from that pedestal they built up. I'm a 3G owner and and I think it's pathetic I have to jailbreak my phone to get basic functionality (backgrounder) to my device. Maybe someone in Cupertino will open their eyes and improve on something that even though is a great device falls miserably short on features that the most basic of dumb pones already have............oh yeah we just got MMS :rolleyes:

Nice going Verizon!!!!!:apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G5
Mar 20, 2003
12,066
6,107
Bay Area
Really? I'm not sure which high-powered ad firm you work for, but that commercial did everything right. Yes, I'm an iPhone owner, and yes, I love it.

really? and what did it do right? Fail to show its own product? Spend 2/3 of its time with the viewer's attention only on the competitor?

Again I'll say, terrible ad. Tells you nothing about what it's trying to sell, doesn't grab your attention, boring, etc.

Those of you who think this ad is good are probably people who routinely come to this board to complain about things like no background apps or no camera flash. Most consumers don't think about these things and frankly just don't care. Spending the whole ad talking about picky little things a competitor doesn't do is no way to sell your product. Focus on what your product can do if its so great. The fact is, people love the iphone despite its shortcomings, and most iphone owners don't give those shortcomings a second thought.
 

JD914

macrumors 6502a
Sep 24, 2007
754
0
Dutchess County NY
really? and what did it do right? Fail to show its own product? Spend 2/3 of its time with the viewer's attention only on the competitor?

Again I'll say, terrible ad. Tells you nothing about what it's trying to sell, doesn't grab your attention, boring, etc.

It's a prequel of what's to come and an excellent ad.....it's not hard to figure out :rolleyes:
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
Obviously, Verizon and Apple are not forming a business relationship. Instead, Verizon is taking the approach of pushing the alternatives and claiming they are better. Also it's clear Verizon still does not want to carry a handset that will overshadow them.

On ATT's website, they advertise the HTC Fuze as "the ultimate smartphone".

Does that mean ATT doesn't think much of the iPhone? Of course not. It's just advertising.

In Verizon's case, it's similar to the way that Jobs always slams anything that Apple doesn't have, but then flips 180 degrees when they do get it.
 

jav6454

macrumors Core
Nov 14, 2007
22,303
6,264
1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
On ATT's website, they advertise the HTC Fuze as "the ultimate smartphone".

Does that mean ATT doesn't think much of the iPhone? Of course not. It's just advertising.

In Verizon's case, it's similar to the way that Jobs always slams anything that Apple doesn't have, but then flips 180 degrees when they do get it.



Reminds me a bit of the Cloverfield movie ads.

I think AT&T and Apple think the iPhone as a mini-computer rather than a smartphone...

So, yes, AT&T thinks the Fuze is the ultimate smartphone. And yet we all know the iPhone is a the best portable computer there is. Locked down as it is, it's still a mini-computer
 
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