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[Vote] Who is seriously think about to go away from Apple?
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According to what's been discussed so far, it seems like when you remove a native app you are actually hiding it.
Yet another proof of how Apple totally misses the point.
Typical Apple Owner thoughts around the Keynote
Friday the 10th - Afternoon: F this I'm leaving Apple I'm tired of them not innovating...
Monday the 13th - Afternoon: Apple's killing it, so glad I have a Mac.
Friday the 17th - Afternoon: This beta is great, so much better than everyone else's betas, I love Apple!
Friday the 10th - Afternoon: F this I'm leaving Apple I'm tired of them not innovating...
Monday the 13th - Afternoon: Apple's killing it, so glad I have a Mac.
Friday the 17th - Afternoon: This beta is great, so much better than everyone else's betas, I love Apple!
Seems like they are getting the point as that is what the majority of people who have been asking about this kind of thing mainly care about (and for the much smaller number of people that care about it from the point of view of freeing up space, given that all together the apps don't take up much space at all, getting rid of a few of them, which is what most would end up doing, or even all of them, won't really provide meaningful space savings).
The total size of all of those apps according to Apple is ~150 MB, Angry Birds is larger. Most people wanted to remove the apps so it's one less thing they have to skip through when searching for an App or if they use a replacement for it. As it is built into iOS it cannot ship without it and if you deleted the App as you would an App Store app you'd break core functionality of your device. By hiding the application, we can all find happy middle ground. As for you, if you don't like it, get a larger capacity iPhone.
I "left" Apple quite some time ago. My last "modern" Apple purchase was a black MacBook in 2013 which is no longer with me, and I have no plans to buy anything newer.
Now, I do still use my eMac (typing this post on it, in fact) and I have a few older Macs and iPods just for tinkering around with. I also have an iPad 3 that was given to me, which I used twice and only still have because it has a cracked (but functional) screen, and it's not worth my time to sell it for what I'm sure would be less than $100.
Basically, as soon as the iPhone and iPad exploded in popularity, Apple died for me. I've never liked iOS, and as soon as it started gaining steam, Apple basically forgot their iPod and Mac lines existed. When they do throw them a bone every so often, it's only to remove features and/or upgrade options, and to make them more iDevice-like.
I don't want a desktop that I can't upgrade the RAM in. I don't want a laptop that is paper-thin but lacks multiple ports. I don't want a phone that is locked in to a "walled garden" or whatever they call it these days. I understand that these things are not concerning enough to millions of Apple's customers, but they are to me. So I have gone a different route. I use an ancient eMac as my desktop, a 12" HP EliteBook as my laptop, and a BlackBerry Q5 as my phone.
The Apple of 10-15 years ago will always be special to me, but they are not the company I grew up with and admired. More power to them if what they're doing now is going splendidly for them, but it's just not for me. Call it creative differences.
Now, I do still use my eMac (typing this post on it, in fact) and I have a few older Macs and iPods just for tinkering around with. I also have an iPad 3 that was given to me, which I used twice and only still have because it has a cracked (but functional) screen, and it's not worth my time to sell it for what I'm sure would be less than $100.
Basically, as soon as the iPhone and iPad exploded in popularity, Apple died for me. I've never liked iOS, and as soon as it started gaining steam, Apple basically forgot their iPod and Mac lines existed. When they do throw them a bone every so often, it's only to remove features and/or upgrade options, and to make them more iDevice-like.
I don't want a desktop that I can't upgrade the RAM in. I don't want a laptop that is paper-thin but lacks multiple ports. I don't want a phone that is locked in to a "walled garden" or whatever they call it these days. I understand that these things are not concerning enough to millions of Apple's customers, but they are to me. So I have gone a different route. I use an ancient eMac as my desktop, a 12" HP EliteBook as my laptop, and a BlackBerry Q5 as my phone.
The Apple of 10-15 years ago will always be special to me, but they are not the company I grew up with and admired. More power to them if what they're doing now is going splendidly for them, but it's just not for me. Call it creative differences.
I would.But I got too much invested in the ecosystem what with AW,Macbook,iPad and iPhone.I am an unfortunate victim of planned obsolescence espeically when it comes to my iOS devices but oh well..
I left for about 3 months. Back with an SE. Just didn't want a big phone and hated the Android I'd got. So I was happy with the SE. It's pretty good, I'm satisfied.
Was the problem more with the hardware that you chose, or with the version of Android?
(No argument; I'm just curious.)
Software was buggy, lots of service framework repetition. I felt the urge to root it and put a ROM. My messages stopped working, couldn't keep calls without them dropping. Heck, I couldn't save contacts towards the end. Had the phone for about 2-3 months. It got so hot I thought the phone would set on fire. It melted a case!
The S6 Edge was massively defective. I just felt that it wasn't worth going through the work I did on the Note 3 (Which I still have) to make this device right. So I reverted to the old 5c. Already it was more stable being the age it was. So it was time to get to that SE I wanted.
Edit: Upgrading it to Marshmallow didn't help but made it worse! I did a clean install even. =/
I guess I'm not the typical apple owner. I read the articles and notes about the keynote, and just kind of yawned and moved on. Nothing inspired me to watch the keynote. They used to be exciting...now they're just a bunch of mediocre features I couldn't care less about. Oh yay, my phone can automatically change the word pizza into an emoji of pizza. How exciting. Now, how about letting me use that port on the bottom for more things.
This is pretty much how I feel. Obviously, the iPhone and iPad business is what has made them, recently. So they have put all their eggs into that basket, and left the Mac as an almost legacy product. Definitely agree with you on the software. I still use Pages and Numbers from iWork '09, because the new versions are so utterly terrible. It's almost like they're trying to get people to drop macs so they can end the line and focus solely on phones and tablets.
Hell, I brought one of my touchscreens home from work to try it out on my MacBook the other day, only to find out that mac doesn't even SUPPORT touchscreens. I knew they refused to make touchscreen products outside of the iLine, but I thought they would at least support them! No such luck...need to go the third-party route. Pathetic.
The Apple of 10-15 years ago will always be special to me, but they are not the company I grew up with and admired. More power to them if what they're doing now is going splendidly for them, but it's just not for me. Call it creative differences.
Yep. I still remember the good ol' days.
I don't mind that at all. I just want to hide them from cluttering up my screen space.
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The RAM thing is a little annoying but in my practical life it hasn't been an issue. My macbook Air with 4gb of Ram lasted for a good 5 years.
RE: ports -> You should be asking yourself why your devices need ports and working on eliminating those devices or finding an alternative to ports. Even if it's a must-have just buy an adapter. The future is wireless.
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I will stay with Apple at least for the near future, although I am displeased by the trend.
iPP changed my life, iP6S+ is great, and our MBA works like a charm. MBP and (white plastic) MB are showing their age, although I might revive the MBP with a new SSD.
iPP changed my life, iP6S+ is great, and our MBA works like a charm. MBP and (white plastic) MB are showing their age, although I might revive the MBP with a new SSD.
I will give you a hint, my first piece of Apple hardware was an Apple IIE in about 1978 or so (don't remember exactly). No hard drive, 5 1/4" floppy and a dot matrix printer. Oh, and the monitor only had green lettering on a black background...
So, a longtime user like me. Apple IIE came out in 1983, so if you and one in 1978, that's pretty remarkable! I started at home with an Apple Iic in 1984, but had used earlier models at school previously.
The reason I asked is because a lot of more recent Apple converts seem to have rose-tinted glasses and a do-no-wrong opinion of Apple, while many older Apple fans have kind of lost their admiration since the company has changed direction so much.
Well, I'm not going to hold 5 years difference when we are talking over 30 years ago, I barely remember what I had for breakfast 3 days ago, it's unimportant detail, stop being a precision fact checker. Knowing the release data for an Apple IIE just shows what length you'd go to put someone else down.
Not in the near future.
Still have a number of Windows PCs for certain purposes. But no more Android. I liked a lot of its features, still was not my cup of tea.
Still have a number of Windows PCs for certain purposes. But no more Android. I liked a lot of its features, still was not my cup of tea.
I wasn't insulted, but I don't think you should have bit the guys head off for not remembering details from 30 years ago. It's a bit rude.