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Are you 100% sure? Blind people cannot use Face ID? How about I wear sun glasses? "Facing it" and "look at" it can be quite different.
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In the keynote, they specifically said it had to have your attention and your eyes needed to be open.
 
You don’t have to press the button when “Rest finger to open” is enabled.

My issue with Face ID is definitely the swipe. Currently, raise to wake and rest finger (which feels completely natural) means I’m on the home screen by the time my eyes are looking at the screen.

I’ve always found the Notification screen pretty much useless, I’d happily enable an option to skip it if available, which my current system largely does.

Depends on the iPhone model. You may need to press at least one button (it can be the home button) to wake up the screen. Otherwise, rest finger to open won't work.

I don't see why you would want it to do that. Looking at your iPhone is something you are going to do anyway and swiping up is basically the same amount of work as pressing TouchID...

I am not necessary holding the phone that pointing to my face. e.g. I am looking at it, but it can be rest on the table and facing the ceiling. Face ID is way more trouble than Touch ID.
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In the keynote, they specifically said it had to have your attention and your eyes needed to be open.

Then it may really means wearing sun glasses won't work. I think this is really a concern.
 
Apple Pay Before: Touch ID

Apple Pay on Iphone X: Double Tap Side Button, Look at your phone, put phone on Pad

More like:

Apple Pay before: Push Touch ID twice, look at screen to make sure your cards come up, tap to reader.
Apple Pay after: Push power button twice, look at screen to authenticate, tap to reader.

Really no difference at all.
 
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Apple Pay before: Push Touch ID twice, look at screen to make sure your cards come up, tap to reader.
Apple Pay after: Push power button twice, look at screen to authenticate, tap to reader.

Really no difference at all.

Depends on how many credit cards you have, or if you want to use an alternate card (non-default).

If you want to use the default card, or only have one:

Apple Pay before: Hold touchID registered finger on home button, tap to reader
Apple Pay after: Push power button twice, look at screen to authenticate, tap to reader.
 
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Apple Pay before: Push Touch ID twice, look at screen to make sure your cards come up, tap to reader.
Apple Pay after: Push power button twice, look at screen to authenticate, tap to reader.

Really no difference at all.

Check if the card comes up is not mandatory, and is not require the phone pointing to my face, and it can be done when I putting the phone to the reader (when the iphone is in motion and not pointing to my face), and I just realise that it is require to read my eyes, that means I may have to take my sun glasses off as well.....

Very different
 
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You’re right, forgot it was only on newer phones.

I’ll be happy with Face ID if there’s an accessibility option to bypass the swipe/notification screen.
 
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Depends on how many credit cards you have, or if you want to use an alternate card (non-default).

If you want to use the default card, or only have one:

Apple Pay before: Hold touchID registered finger on home button, tap to reader
Apple Pay after: Push power button twice, look at screen to authenticate, tap to reader.

If you just hold Touch ID doesn't it just unlock your phone and take you to the home screen? I'm still on the 6 Plus and that's what mine does, I have to double tap it to open Apple Pay. Regardless, is this what we all consider to be hardships now - single vs. double tap? Having to glance at our phone to pay?
 
Did you watch the presentation? That’s what he stated.

I did, but I really doubt if eyes open is mandatory (may be I really miss that "the eyes have to be opened"). How about blind people? How about I wear sun glasses? I suspect when he said "require looking at it" actually means "pointing your face to the iphone".
 
I did, but I really doubt if eyes open is mandatory (may be I really miss that "the eyes have to be opened"). How about blind people? How about I wear sun glasses? I suspect when he said "require looking at it" actually means "pointing your face to the iphone".

He literally said it can’t be opened if you’re sleeping so eyes open seem to be required.
 
If you just hold Touch ID doesn't it just unlock your phone and take you to the home screen? I'm still on the 6 Plus and that's what mine does, I have to double tap it to open Apple Pay. Regardless, is this what we all consider to be hardships now - single vs. double tap? Having to glance at our phone to pay?


To use your default card, rest your finger on Touch ID and hold your iPhone within an inch of the contactless reader until you see Done and a checkmark on the display.​

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201239
 
A lot of people here complaining about something they haven't even used and can't comment on the execution of.

Remember all of those that swore that AirPods would fall out instantly who were proved wrong as soon as the product actually shipped and their complaints were found to be completely unfounded?
 
THIS

Its OVER when you have to freaking LOOK in to your phone to unlock every time.

So you pick up your phone and you don't look or even glance then what's your point of picking up your phone if you don't intent to use it?
 
So you pick up your phone and you don't look or even glance then what's your point of picking up your phone if you don't intent to use it?

I don't look into the phone when:

1- Paying for stuff using Apple Pay
2- Trying to turn off a wakeup alarm or some other alarm that reminds me to do something.
 
I would hope there is some level of customization possible to how it unlocks. Just like raise to wake or rest finger to unlock, Apple may implement a different combo for unlocking. Look at phone and press side button, look only, etc. It would be strange to only be locked into the look/swipe combo.
 
I don't look into the phone when:

1- Paying for stuff using Apple Pay
2- Trying to turn off a wakeup alarm or some other alarm that reminds me to do something.

I always look at iPhone during Apple pay to make sure it goes thru.
For the alarm and timer you don't actually need to unlock your phone to begin with, you can turn off timer and alarm without unlocking.
I just really hate the notch on the X model. Face ID works pretty seamless to me.
 
A lot of people here complaining about something they haven't even used and can't comment on the execution of.

Remember all of those that swore that AirPods would fall out instantly who were proved wrong as soon as the product actually shipped and their complaints were found to be completely unfounded?

I think this one is very different. People doubt about if the Air pod can be wear firmly etc, because it's hard to imagine the difference of the CG and weight changes after the cable is removed.

But for this one, it's very clear that the whole process require more user actions. Not something that hard to imagine.

e.g. If eyes require to be open and read by the sensor, then sun glasses should be a problem

e.g. If it need to point to my face to unlock, then I can't use Face ID when the phone rest on the table.
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No it's not. The apple pay screen in invoked by proximity to the reader.

Thanks, learn something new everyday. I always bring up the screen first, no idea that will auto comes up. So, is that means for Apple Watch, I don't even need to touch anything but just put my watch close the reader?
 
I would hope there is some level of customization possible to how it unlocks. Just like raise to wake or rest finger to unlock, Apple may implement a different combo for unlocking. Look at phone and press side button, look only, etc. It would be strange to only be locked into the look/swipe combo.

Many people are claiming fail with Face ID but you can also press power button to wake up the phone and then it will unlocked go to homescreen. Apple is not showing accessibility option we have in Touch ID where it goes straight to home.
 
I think this one is very different. People doubt about if the Air pod can be wear firmly etc, because it's hard to imagine the difference of the c.g. weight changes after the cable is removed.

But for this one, it's very clear that the whole process require more user actions. Not something that hard to imagine.

e.g. If eyes require to be open and read by the sensor, then sun glasses should be a problem)

e.g. If it need to point to my face to unlock, then I can't use Face ID when the phone rest on the table.
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Thanks, learn something new everyday. I always bring up the screen first, no idea that will auto comes up. So, is that means for Apple Watch, I don't even need to touch anything but just put my watch close the reader?

Since the Apple Watch is pre-authenticated (by unlocking your phone, or using watch passcode) you have to double press the side button then place near reader.
 
Maybe I missed it, but what about control center? How will that be accessed as it sounds like the same swipe up gesture is for the home screen?
 
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Since the Apple Watch is pre-authenticated (by unlocking your phone, or using watch passcode) you have to double press the side button then place near reader.

That make sense, otherwise, if for any reason I am standing too close to the reader, my watch may accidentally pay something.
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Maybe I missed it, but what about control center? How will that be accessed as it sounds like the same swipe up gesture is for the home screen?

From the top now, another big difference, single hand will be extremely hard to access that
 
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