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Waiting for 2021 MBP
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I have so much to do at work tomorrow before I get to any MacBook excitement time. ?
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I’ll be watching it from work. I don’t think I’m going to be working tomorrow at all, 🤦♀️
Most likely, I'll wait to see what Monterey will do about the stove top 16”. Stories around the betas are pretty good. I'm so used to 16” now that even though financially I’d like to get the 14” (also because I don’t need more GPU horse power), the screen real estate of the 16” remains appealing. I may skip the event to avoid being tempted…
That's what I thought immediately, too.
About the notch. I think they may use the parts on the sides of the notch in non-fullscreen mode. Plenty of space for menu and clock there. In fullscreen mode, they could put black bars there to make it seem like there is no screen. I guess that would turn the 16:10 screen into a 16:9.something, which is a shame. But honestly, I wouldn't mind a notch at all, if used that way. It will reduce the laptop's footprint and possibly the weight. Which would tempt me even more towards a new 16” dammit!
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What do you guys think? How long this event is going to be? I’m guessing 1 hour and 30 minutes?
Spot on. There are always people who are dissatisfied with new product releases for any number of reasons including taking rumors as fact and setting unrealistic expectations not founded in reality but instead laced with Apple romanticism.
Just a quick noob question…?:
I’ve been reading a lot about people wanting to increase ram and storage space… like 32 GB Ram or 2 TB storage and so on…
So, that would make your new MacBook “build to order” and possibly delay the delivery, right?
The safest way for a quick delivery date is to choose one of the given models without any “own” chosen improvements?
I’ve been reading a lot about people wanting to increase ram and storage space… like 32 GB Ram or 2 TB storage and so on…
So, that would make your new MacBook “build to order” and possibly delay the delivery, right?
The safest way for a quick delivery date is to choose one of the given models without any “own” chosen improvements?
In less than 24 hours this world and our lives will never be the same again.
70-90 minutes sounds about right. The new Macs will probably need a good hour to present since there's so much being changed. New display tech, new design, probably more surprises. The M1 Pro and M1 Max (I like that way better than M1X) will also need some time to go over performance and probably have some software developers talk about how great they are. If the Mac mini shows up, that will require some time as well since its getting a new design (although I personally think the Mac mini Pro will come with the iMac Pro early next year).
There's probably some higher ups at Intel watching that countdown in horror lol!
When do you guys expect the new MacBooks to be available in the store? Right after the event, or somewhere in the next days/weeks?
Also, Is trade-in available for new products? I'd like to trade-in my M1, no fuss etc..
Also, Is trade-in available for new products? I'd like to trade-in my M1, no fuss etc..
No one knows. Could be after the event tomorrow. Could be 1 or 2 weeks later. Could be a pre-order. Trade-in should be available for current M1 hardware, but again we don’t know.
Im planning on trading in my 2018 macbook pro to apple but every time I check their trade in value it seems to drop a little bit..before it was 560 now its 540 Im afraid to know what it will be after the presentation tomorrow
Why buy what you might not want? I know if I want a particular configuration and I have to wait for it, so be it. It seems silly to buy a certain model simply to have it quicker.
It’ll be those same people creating threads in a few weeks about how they are returning the laptop and building a CTO model.
Well, now all the talk is notchmania. Tomorrow's gonna be a helluva day.
The rumours are saying that the screen below the notch still has a 16:10 aspect ratio and the ears next to the notch is extra screen space.
So if they did what you’re saying and were to put black bars at the top it would just turn into the screen of the current MBP with a 16:10 aspect ratio and the extra screen space hidden.
So woke up this morning hoping to see more rumours about pro motion display or something interesting.
Instead macrumors home page is littered with news about the notch, and it is now catching on to the MacBook Air.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring better news.
Instead macrumors home page is littered with news about the notch, and it is now catching on to the MacBook Air.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring better news.
Well, as 'tis the season (Apple Macintosh Christmas), here's my wishlist.
1) I hope the rumours of the Notch prove baseless, and are simply anti-leak FUD from Apple. There will just be too many unexpected times where a UI not regulated directly by Apple will have usability issues. Full-screen apps, anything in Linux or Windows, etc. I'd be quite content with no rounded corners either, however I'm hoping the 74 ghost pixel rows are because of rounded corners, and not a notch.
2) I hope rumours of 2 E-cores are false. It makes no sense to me that Apple wouldn't keep 4 E-cores, because it gives a consistent and ample computational scope for all OS background and most foreground tasks, plus more for many user tasks. We don't want P-cores firing up for tasks that could be handled just fine by an E-core.
3) at least 8 P-cores for maximum config, if there's a choice. More is always better.
4) GPU with at least 10 TFlop/s of computational performance. This should be straightforward with a 32-core GPU, however I'm unsure if this is half-precision or single-precision. Hopefully it will be 10 TFlop/s single precision, and 5 for double-precision would be amazing.
5) 32-core, or even 64-core neural engine. The new piece of super-fast silicon, that may not have found it's killer application yet, however it will. Maybe Apple could implement their own version of DLSS? Or half a million other things that a seriously powerful ML accelerator can do.
6) Minimum 32GB RAM ceiling. 64GB would be better, but 16GB I think will start getting restrictive when you're running apps that push the CPU and/or GPU. Especially when that RAM is being shared between the CPU and GPU.
7) Much higher bandwidth RAM. Will be needed to feed the CPU and GPU. At least twice, hopefully 4x, don't really care if it's done using more channels of DDR5, or just many more channels.
There are many other things, like the ability to charge from MagSafe or USB-C, 120Hz ProMotion (or even 60Hz, for the battery savings), smaller bezels, HDMI, Ethernet, etc. that would be gravy. However, I feel like if the MBP misses on some of the enumerated points above, it will be letting itself down.
I honestly don't care if it's thicker or heavier. I never had an issue carrying or using my 3kg 17" MBP. It seems big and unwieldy now after using my current 15", but that's still better than being needlessly hamstrung. Compact and light, form over power is what the M1 notebooks are for.
I'm looking to buy a 32GB & 1TB, possibly maxing out any CPU and GPU options. At the moment, I'm more looking for any reason Apple gives me to NOT buy one, rather than reasons to buy. And yes, obviously the final cost may be one of those factors.
1) I hope the rumours of the Notch prove baseless, and are simply anti-leak FUD from Apple. There will just be too many unexpected times where a UI not regulated directly by Apple will have usability issues. Full-screen apps, anything in Linux or Windows, etc. I'd be quite content with no rounded corners either, however I'm hoping the 74 ghost pixel rows are because of rounded corners, and not a notch.
2) I hope rumours of 2 E-cores are false. It makes no sense to me that Apple wouldn't keep 4 E-cores, because it gives a consistent and ample computational scope for all OS background and most foreground tasks, plus more for many user tasks. We don't want P-cores firing up for tasks that could be handled just fine by an E-core.
3) at least 8 P-cores for maximum config, if there's a choice. More is always better.
4) GPU with at least 10 TFlop/s of computational performance. This should be straightforward with a 32-core GPU, however I'm unsure if this is half-precision or single-precision. Hopefully it will be 10 TFlop/s single precision, and 5 for double-precision would be amazing.
5) 32-core, or even 64-core neural engine. The new piece of super-fast silicon, that may not have found it's killer application yet, however it will. Maybe Apple could implement their own version of DLSS? Or half a million other things that a seriously powerful ML accelerator can do.
6) Minimum 32GB RAM ceiling. 64GB would be better, but 16GB I think will start getting restrictive when you're running apps that push the CPU and/or GPU. Especially when that RAM is being shared between the CPU and GPU.
7) Much higher bandwidth RAM. Will be needed to feed the CPU and GPU. At least twice, hopefully 4x, don't really care if it's done using more channels of DDR5, or just many more channels.
There are many other things, like the ability to charge from MagSafe or USB-C, 120Hz ProMotion (or even 60Hz, for the battery savings), smaller bezels, HDMI, Ethernet, etc. that would be gravy. However, I feel like if the MBP misses on some of the enumerated points above, it will be letting itself down.
I honestly don't care if it's thicker or heavier. I never had an issue carrying or using my 3kg 17" MBP. It seems big and unwieldy now after using my current 15", but that's still better than being needlessly hamstrung. Compact and light, form over power is what the M1 notebooks are for.
I'm looking to buy a 32GB & 1TB, possibly maxing out any CPU and GPU options. At the moment, I'm more looking for any reason Apple gives me to NOT buy one, rather than reasons to buy. And yes, obviously the final cost may be one of those factors.
The notch doesn't phase me but "thick and heavy" leak certainly does. If the computers end up being thicker and heavier than the 2015 Macbook Pro putting in an BTO order on the 13" M1 Macbook Pro doesn't seem out of the question but would be a shame after waiting this long for a device. However those clamouring for a "real pro device" are probably going to be very happy. Im hoping Apple surprises us though and gives true performance in a sleek device but there is no knowing until about 16 hours from now.
This indicates that Apple is taking cooling more seriously and thats a great thing. Larger Fans and bigger fins.
Yes please, give me thicker and heavier means less throttling. This is a pro laptop.
Those who want a thin and light should got the 13" MBP or the 13" MBA.
The E-cores could also be much more efficient and "bigger" than the ones in M1 and thus only 2 are enough.
I am sure Apple chip engineers know what they are doing, after all Apple makes the best SoCs in the industry.