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Waiting for 2021 MBP
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Hmm. Thing is I really don’t believe I’ll benefit that much from getting the best available but I might of course be wrong.
My current computer (MBP15” from 2015, with 2,5 GHz and 16 GB memory) is handling 3D modeling quite fine. I mean I experience some lag, an occasional freeze etc and of course one of the reasons for upgrading to a new computer is to try to avoid these issues but I would assume even the cheapest 16” (maybe even cheapest 14”) even without any BTO should be able out perform my 6.5 year old MacBook Pro. It just seems quite extremely overkill with that particular model. Especially since it costs $5000 in my country (MBP 16” with 1 TB storage and 32 GB RAM). Might have been a but unclear about that both music production and 3D-Modeling are just hobbies and even if some part of my work there is aloe it won’t affect my income etc and therefore I’m not that disturbed by it (at least if the part / part of workflow that is slow, isn’t something I have to do repeatedly whenever I do music production or 3D-modeling).
I’m kind of trying to think about the upgrade like this: I have my MBP15” from mid 2015, therefore all computer launched today should be faster and “better” than what I currently got. I don’t know what expectations to set for myself really, but for example maybe I’d would be reasonable to think that the cheapest 14” would benefit me in a such as in that it will be twice as “good” as my current one overall performance and maybe three times as fast as my current MBP’s CPU but only 50% faster GPU, if I would decide on the the one you me Rhône’s maybe it would be three times as overall good as my current director MBP, three times as fast as my CPU but also three times as fast as my GPU....
What the.. I don’t even know what I’m talking about anymore. I’m so tired after not sleeping more than a few hours these last few days so sorry about kh fkndusion and also I’m nervous and stressed about these computers. Should have tried to better understand what I needed before. Just thought there would be more or less one or two alternatives that I could afford and that would be kind of obvious choices but I feel I have no idea what the specs axrhakkr mean or what I need.
Sadly I have no company anymore so can not write off the expense either but thanks for suggesting it in case I didn’t think of it or has missed it :/.
Is it really risky? Btw it's lovely to see people excited commenting sharing advice. I see so many still having older models. I totally get it and buy laptops not too often so want them to last. I have older ones as well! I see one person waited 4 years for the new model. Tbh I wanted more than a year because I thought it'd be sooner and the last thing you want is buy a model that'll be remodelled after less than a year. Btw am I the only one who got the "standard delivery" message? I wonder if it's a mistake. Here it's almost midnight so I'm not calling anyone.I find the upgrade to M1Max risky, though, until an independent reviewer confirms to me that the memory benchmarks of the 24 core GPU is identical to the 32 core GPU one.
Is there any difference between 14/16" model with the M1 Max? Performance wise?
Hard to believe CPU/GPU will be the same. If they are equal, I may just get the 14" model for portability.
Hard to believe CPU/GPU will be the same. If they are equal, I may just get the 14" model for portability.
Hmm. Thing is I really don’t believe I’ll benefit that much from getting the best available but I might of course be wrong.
My current computer (MBP15” from 2015, with 2,5 GHz and 16 GB memory) is handling 3D modeling quite fine. I mean I experience some lag, an occasional freeze etc and of course one of the reasons for upgrading to a new computer is to try to avoid these issues but I would assume even the cheapest 16” (maybe even cheapest 14”) even without any BTO should be able out perform my 6.5 year old MacBook Pro. It just seems quite extremely overkill with that particular model. Especially since it costs $5000 in my country (MBP 16” with 1 TB storage and 32 GB RAM). Might have been a but unclear about that both music production and 3D-Modeling are just hobbies and even if some part of my work there is aloe it won’t affect my income etc and therefore I’m not that disturbed by it (at least if the part / part of workflow that is slow, isn’t something I have to do repeatedly whenever I do music production or 3D-modeling).
I’m kind of trying to think about the upgrade like this: I have my MBP15” from mid 2015, therefore all computer launched today should be faster and “better” than what I currently got. I don’t know what expectations to set for myself really, but for example maybe I’d would be reasonable to think that the cheapest 14” would benefit me in a such as in that it will be twice as “good” as my current one overall performance and maybe three times as fast as my current MBP’s CPU but only 50% faster GPU, if I would decide on the the one you me Rhône’s maybe it would be three times as overall good as my current director MBP, three times as fast as my CPU but also three times as fast as my GPU....
What the.. I don’t even know what I’m talking about anymore. I’m so tired after not sleeping more than a few hours these last few days so sorry about kh fkndusion and also I’m nervous and stressed about these computers. Should have tried to better understand what I needed before. Just thought there would be more or less one or two alternatives that I could afford and that would be kind of obvious choices but I feel I have no idea what the specs axrhakkr mean or what I need.
Sadly I have no company anymore so can not write off the expense either but thanks for suggesting it in case I didn’t think of it missed it :/.
Edit: found something that I’m not sure help me understand how much faster the new ones are but I noticed there was a geekbench score for the M1 Max posted in MacRumors front page and it was:
1749
Single-Core Score
11542
Multi-Core Score
While when I searched for my current computer I found this score:
875
Single-Core Score
2955
Multi-Core Score
Now I have a hard time seeing myself spending all that cash for the M1 Max unless there’s a damn good reason for me to do so. I think it’s much more likely that I go for one of the variants of the M1 Pro and I’m not sure whenever Geek Bench results for that will be posted or I’d I somehow can calculate an estimate based on the one I posted above but still some conclusion should be possible to find in it. Right?... I mean single core performance is about twice as high or 1000 points higher in the new machines and multi core is about 4x higher. Never was interested in geek bench so maybe I just don’t know how to read it.
Can't say I'm too enamoured with the brutalist look of this mbp, I'm still on the 2015 and I'm not convinced this 2021 mbp is the one I want to have for the next four/five years.. that notch as well with no face id
And HDMI 2.0?????? Why not stick with the extra usb-c?
I'm gonna hold fire until some reviews (espically MKB) before pulling the trigger but I think I'll be holding on for yet another iteration....
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Thanks for letting me know. I was a bit worried. It still doesn't make sense though.
No - if you get the same chip configuration (Pro vs Max, same core CPU vs GPU), they are for all intents and purposes identical. That's why if you config a 14" and 16" with identical specs, I think pretty much across the board, the 16" is just US$200 different between the two.
Now, it's possible that because the 16" may have better cooling so potentially could have larger thermal envelope / less thermal throttling, but I don't know if there'll be any thermal throttling at all on these. Won't know until reviews start coming out that really put it through its paces.
I had the same thought process as I was specc'ing mine out. Like for like (M1 Pro 10core/16core with 32GB/1TB), it was only $200 difference to go up to 16". But I still stuck with 14" because I valued the portability and weight of the 14" more than the added screen size (with less portability / heavier weight).
Well, I got 4 out of 7 from my wishlist, plus a thorough drenching of gravy.
Yay for 8 P-cores, yay for 32-core GPU (with likely performance ~10TFlop/s), yay for 32 & 64GB max RAM options, yay for much higher DDR5 RAM & bandwidth!
Boo to the notch, boo to only 2 E-cores, double boo to still only 16-core Neural Engine.
Yum 120Hz Promotion, yum faster charging via USB-C/Magsafe, HDMI. Ethernet would have been nice, as would a couple of USB-A ports.
Price is meh, totally ambivalent. AU$5,250 for 32GB/1TB/32-core 16". Seems reasonable, but certainly not cheap.
Yay for 8 P-cores, yay for 32-core GPU (with likely performance ~10TFlop/s), yay for 32 & 64GB max RAM options, yay for much higher DDR5 RAM & bandwidth!
Boo to the notch, boo to only 2 E-cores, double boo to still only 16-core Neural Engine.
Yum 120Hz Promotion, yum faster charging via USB-C/Magsafe, HDMI. Ethernet would have been nice, as would a couple of USB-A ports.
Price is meh, totally ambivalent. AU$5,250 for 32GB/1TB/32-core 16". Seems reasonable, but certainly not cheap.
The cord disconnects from the brick! Did you guys see that?
Yes, but Only from the computer does it have a quick disconnect. The other end is used for usb-c to Power brick and it does not have a quick disconnect, you have to pull on it.
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Hmmm...could the new Microsoft high-end Surface Studio Laptop configuration with the Intel i7 & Nvidia RTX graphics get beaten performance wise by Apple's entry-level 14" MBP chip? ? Wouldn't that be something.
Can't say I'm too enamoured with the brutalist look of this mbp, I'm still on the 2015 and I'm not convinced this 2021 mbp is the one I want to have for the next four/five years.. that notch as well with no face id
And HDMI 2.0?????? Why not stick with the extra usb-c?
I'm gonna hold fire until some reviews (espically MKB) before pulling the trigger but I think I'll be holding on for yet another iteration....
Agree with the look. It's Fugly!
But I'm totally on board with this computer. If you only use it at home, I get the FaceID is better than TouchID, but if you use your computer at work, and you have to wear a mask (I'm putting my hand up here and I'm sure plenty of others are too) then TouchID is superior. I love FaceID, but in our current world TouchID is better.
I think Apple have handled the notch really well compared to the phones. If you watch the keynote carefully, you'll see it never cuts into content. It's always there for the menu bar. BUT, I want to know if the screen below the notch is actually as big as the Intel MBP. If it's not, that will disappoint me as it won't be a true 16" machine. I was under the impression that Apple just opened up the top bezel for the menu bar. But I could be wrong.
Purchased the 16"/1tb/32gb model with base graphics (16core).
Disappointed:
- No wi-fi 6e (but mostly expected)
- multi-core performance not double, only +70% - not really expected
- somewhat ugly design (all black keyboard, weird shape, etc) - not really expected
- that notch is going to be super weird for full screen type views without a top menu bar. Are most games/browsers/etc going to just keep a bar on top? Render everything below it? Try to match safe spaces like native apps do? All kind of unclear
Happy:
- Got the ports
- Dropped touchbar
Still hoping I don't regret not upgrading to the 24 core gpu, but thinking that I'll time selling this in 4-5 years when maybe it moves to armv9, oled, wi-fi 7, etc.
Disappointed:
- No wi-fi 6e (but mostly expected)
- multi-core performance not double, only +70% - not really expected
- somewhat ugly design (all black keyboard, weird shape, etc) - not really expected
- that notch is going to be super weird for full screen type views without a top menu bar. Are most games/browsers/etc going to just keep a bar on top? Render everything below it? Try to match safe spaces like native apps do? All kind of unclear
Happy:
- Got the ports
- Dropped touchbar
Still hoping I don't regret not upgrading to the 24 core gpu, but thinking that I'll time selling this in 4-5 years when maybe it moves to armv9, oled, wi-fi 7, etc.
A couple of ways to think of it. On the one hand, you're saving $600 if you go for the 2tb version. You are paying $400 for a 1tb SSD that's 7600mb/sec!!! On the other hand; going for the 4tb SSD, you are paying $333 for each tb. Try and find an external t4 or usb-C external SSD that gives you real-world speeds half that fast. If you could swing it, What a bargain! Not to mention the heat issues! Good luck! Here's mine:
RU a student? Is anyone in your family a student? or Educator? Can you trade something in? 16gb on an Apple ARM processor is more like 32gb anywhere else. I would strongly recommend upping the storage as high as you can. There are NO external SSD's that are clocking anywhere NEAR 7,600mb/sec. If you are a student, or educator, that is $180 for the upgrade to 1tb. Highly recommended!!
The prices I mentioned were with the student discount. I would choose ram before I choose storage. I have a couple of external SSD’s so I’m not too worried about that.
Just bit the bullet for a 16" M1 Max with the 32-core GPU, 32 GB RAM and a 4TB drive.
It's a lot of computer, in fact more than I need now, and 2TB would have been more than enough. But you live only once and this is a milestone MBP upgrade. This way I can store all my photos and videos locally, plus have plenty of space to back up all my devices with room to spare.
Super excited for it, I'm positive it will be worth the splurge. The only (very small) disappointment is that we did not get a new "M2" architecture, but it was expected, I think the huge leap with the M1 might have spoiled us a little on that front. Plus we got other stuff that I didn't think we would get this year (120Hz ProMotion!). I do not mind the slightly bulkier design, on the contrary I am glad Apple decided to dispense with the minimalist gimmicks on its flagship laptop. This finally feels like the function-over-form machine we have been waiting for.
It's a lot of computer, in fact more than I need now, and 2TB would have been more than enough. But you live only once and this is a milestone MBP upgrade. This way I can store all my photos and videos locally, plus have plenty of space to back up all my devices with room to spare.
Super excited for it, I'm positive it will be worth the splurge. The only (very small) disappointment is that we did not get a new "M2" architecture, but it was expected, I think the huge leap with the M1 might have spoiled us a little on that front
. Plus we got other stuff that I didn't think we would get this year (120Hz ProMotion!). I do not mind the slightly bulkier design, on the contrary I am glad Apple decided to dispense with the minimalist gimmicks on its flagship laptop. This finally feels like the function-over-form machine we have been waiting for.
Here's a quick question that I'll drop here before starting yet another thread in this section of the forum..
They mentioned that in addition to MagSafe, the USB-C ports will also be able to charge. So does this imply that if you use a USB-C charger or a dongle that has passthrough USB-C charging, that it will charge in addition to MagSafe, or will they be one or the other for charging?
BL.
They mentioned that in addition to MagSafe, the USB-C ports will also be able to charge. So does this imply that if you use a USB-C charger or a dongle that has passthrough USB-C charging, that it will charge in addition to MagSafe, or will they be one or the other for charging?
BL.
