This is why i got the 4TB even though i won't need it till jan or feb.
i hate external drives, and the speed of even the fastest SSDs externally still stink compared to apple internal ones.
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This is why i got the 4TB even though i won't need it till jan or feb.
i hate external drives, and the speed of even the fastest SSDs externally still stink compared to apple internal ones.
No. The 8 core MBP 14 inch base is a binned M1pro. Similar to the 7core GPU m1.
No. The 8-core M1 in the MBA has 4 high-performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. The 8-core M1 Pro in the 14" MBP has 6 high-performance cores and 2 efficiency cores.
We had horrible luck with LaCie drives over the years & tend to avoid them.
Do people think it's worth upgrading to the 24core gpu just to get the faster memory bandwidth (400GB/s vs 200GB/s) for the entire system?
I don't need a faster gpu for games or much video editing, but debating if it's worth the +$180 since I'd get not only the gpu but a memory perf lift overall.
I don't need a faster gpu for games or much video editing, but debating if it's worth the +$180 since I'd get not only the gpu but a memory perf lift overall.
Does Apple bill your credit or debit card immediately upon placing the order, or wait until shipment?
Ya really torn. If I keep for a super long time it's worth it, but i'm also thinking what would force me to upgrade in 4-5 years. Thinking things like av1 hardware decoding, OLED screens, wi-fi 6e/7, etc.
Truthfully I probably don't need to spend the money, but on the other hand $180 on a $3000 machine is like 6% more kind of the same as tax, and would cost only like 9c per day extra over 5 years.
Did you already plan on getting the 32GB of RAM? Keep in mind that 24-core GPU option is a binned M1 Max, which requires 32GB RAM as minimum. If so then yeah I'd say it's probably worth it.
Yup I did 32gb of ram. The net difference in price is $180 on edu discount to bump the mid-tier one up to the 24core gpu.
I wouldn't go full 32core though - just too expensive and not worth it to me, but the 24 core seems to push up the graphics a bit above mid range AND could improve overall system performance.
Yup, it's sound logic. I think you should go for it. My only reservation is that I really hope the M1 Max doesn't use way more power than the M1 Pro under light loads and cause more heat / less battery life. I really wish Apple had let reviewers get their hands on these and post about them before orders went up.
Comparisons between the 24 core and 32 core will be very interesting. Performance wise the 32 core comes within 90% of an RTX 3080m which means the 24 core could land somewhere between an RTX 3060m and 3070m which is still very impressive.
However, the most important factor (especially coming from the space heater 2019 16”) is how the 24 core and 32 core will compare in terms of heat and battery life… The 21 hour battery was measured on a 16” with the 16 core M1 Pro. We still don’t know how the M1 Max will do. For thermals, the 24 core should produce less heat while also using the same cooling tech as the 32 core.
These things are still not available to pick up in store so I really hope we get some solid reviews before then so I can make my decision. So far I’m leaning 32 core.
However, the most important factor (especially coming from the space heater 2019 16”) is how the 24 core and 32 core will compare in terms of heat and battery life… The 21 hour battery was measured on a 16” with the 16 core M1 Pro. We still don’t know how the M1 Max will do. For thermals, the 24 core should produce less heat while also using the same cooling tech as the 32 core.
These things are still not available to pick up in store so I really hope we get some solid reviews before then so I can make my decision. So far I’m leaning 32 core.
What's the general performance differences between 3050/3060/3070/3080? Ugh I think I should prob get the 24core gpu.
Blah, really wish these models had wi-fi 6e/av1 hardware decoding for more future proofing support.
I've been using an M1 MacBook Air since December. The lack of fan noise AND it's performance heat wise has been stellar. Obviously, the Pro chip will run hotter than the M1. I'm assuming the Max chip will be even more so. Fan noise? I don't know. But noiseless performance is crucial to me when I'm working on music. I do a bit of video, but certainly not enough to warrant the 32 Core GPU. If I WAS a video person, and edited/rendered a ton of 4k; the Max is an absolute no-brainer. For me, when doing video editing fan noise is inconsequential. I am looking for ease of use. Smooth editing. No skips, jumps, etc... and of course faster render times. Video and music have completely different power needs. You raise a good point. And it remains to be seen how much hotter and power hungry the Max chip is...
Just for reference the 3080m is nearly equal to a desktop RTX 3070 (a $500+GPU with 4K gaming abilities with real time ray tracing). So we are already in super good territory as it is.
The 3080m is about 11-19% faster than a 3070m. The 3070m is around 20-29% faster than the 3060m. So if the M1 Max with 32 cores gets us very close to a 3080m and if we assume that the 24 core lands somewhere between a 3060m and 3070m then the 32 core could be around 35%+ more powerful than the 24 core GPU.
As a trade off, the 24 core should use less power while still benefiting from the bigger fans. It’s a tough choice. Either way both cards will absolutely smoke the top end 2019 16”.
you usually get charged once someone in China or US actually assigns a physical device to you.
You can also try :
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This seems like a very good place. At least, the price is good: €1863. I also found iOccasion, which is a sort of French eBay for Apple stuff only. Prices are even better there, but it's the usual stress of selling to an individual.Amazing !
Try https://fr.e-recycle.com/ , should be much better
(cyber jay is a small "physical shop" where I got my battery replaced, would not be surprised their site is not up to date/messed up)
I am going to do exactly the same. Not needing the GPU, but wanting the double memory bandwidth for future proofing. It's a lesson I learned from the 80486 days. I had a DX2-80MHz which had a memory clock of 40MHz. I could overclock it to 100MHz, clock tripler, so memory clock at 33MHz. The slower CPU clock config was actually noticeably faster because of the faster memory clock.
So does that mean you're monitoring your credit card account to see when the big positive balance happens?
That depends entirely on when the product is due to ship, not when you hit the buy button. If Apple release a product today with shipping today you’ll get charged instantly. If they release a product today with shipping in 3 weeks you’ll likely get charged a few days before the 3 week period is done (close to launch). Again, the charge happens when a physical product is ready to leave either the factory in China or the distribution center in the USA.