Is the 24 likely to be cooler than 36 under normal conditions or the 36 will just hibernate unneeded cores? I bought base 16" Max and am thinking if it was an overkill.
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Any modern processor should let everything go to sleep when it's not needed. I'm expecting those ProRes cores etc do the same. The only thing with the M1Max is that that double memory size (32GB instead of 16GB) with double memory bus (512 bits instead of 256) will be permanently enabled. So there will be some impact on battery even when doing not much at all, but it's not going to be anywhere near the full transistor count.
There is no 36. It's 32 GPU cores
Just needing some confirmation that I made the right decision on the MBP that I ordered yesterday! I am upgrading from a
late 2013 retina 15" / 16 gb RAM / 2.3 ghz core i7 / 500 gb hard drive. I currently use my laptop mostly for Internet, streaming, occasional photo editing, and occasional use of Word & Excel applications. I always max out my storage, hence the SSD upgrade!
Yesterday, I ordered the 16" MBP M1 Pro with 1T SSD. Just need to know if it would have been better (or necessary) for me to have upgraded to 32 gb RAM, considering my current use? Any opinions?
late 2013 retina 15" / 16 gb RAM / 2.3 ghz core i7 / 500 gb hard drive. I currently use my laptop mostly for Internet, streaming, occasional photo editing, and occasional use of Word & Excel applications. I always max out my storage, hence the SSD upgrade!
Yesterday, I ordered the 16" MBP M1 Pro with 1T SSD. Just need to know if it would have been better (or necessary) for me to have upgraded to 32 gb RAM, considering my current use? Any opinions?
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16gb is plentiful for your use cases. Im on an MBA M1 with 8GB RAM.
I'm in a similar boat. I'm coming from the mid-2011 13" MBA I keep rambling on: 4GB RAM, 1.7GHz Core i5, 256GB HDD. I do basically the same thing.. Internet surfing, will be doing some livestreaming (OBS, Ecamm Live, BeLive, etc.), Word/Excel/Numbers/Pages, etc., with the occasional photo editing as well.
I was looking at 14" MBP, M1 Pro w/10-core CPU and 14-core GPU, and going up to 2TB for the SSD. My question is also the memory. Would with what I'd be doing require the 32GB? I know I'd need the 2TB model just because of needing to back up my iPhone. It says a lot when my current MBA can't back it up because the initial backup is the entire size of the MBA to begin with. The 512GB option in the base model isn't viable because half the drive would be that backup, without having anything else on it.
But it's the memory that is my main concern. Thoughts?
BL.
I record, edit and produce music, using Pro Tools. Occasionally, I do video of my kids, using Premiere Elements. I've been using the M1 Air since December. 16gb RAM. I never have swap issues. And some of my editing sessions have been intense. The SSD is so fast, that if you exceed your RAM limits, the Mac will write to SSD. It is listed under "memory" in the activity monitor as "swap used". I rarely if ever have used swap memory, even in my most demanding sessions. I'm certain that 16gb will be more than enough for you. Remember, the M1 RAM is much more efficient than intel RAM. I think you're spot on in getting 2 tb SSD. 7400mb/sec is more than twice as fast as any external drive. Plus there won't be heat issues or throttling. If you want to take your specs up a notch, just get the M1Pro-10-core CPU and 16-core GPU. Something about binned processors doesn't jive with me. It's a win win for budget minded customers and for Apple. But you are looking at ways to bump up your build. For your use, I'd rather have an un-binned processor with 16gb RAM. My opinion. Here's my build:
That... is a good point. There's only a $90 difference for what I can get between the 10/14/16 and the 10/16/16. In the grand scheme of things for the Mac, that's negligible, and worth it.
Thanks; you sold me! ?
BL.
I think it's a no brainer to get the Max at that point, it's a 230 Euro difference with double the RAM speed and 8 extra GPU cores.
For live streaming and photo editing, you don't need 32GB. At work, we do OBS live streaming on an ancient Windows machine with 8GB RAM. And our photo editors all get by with 16GB. You'll need 32GB if you go for video editing. Or, in some very high-end cases, photo (think multiple layer medium format edits at 100+MP) or audio (lots of high-end plugins like virtual orchestras). Or virtual machines, or huge data sets. But not for normal photo/streaming/office use.
It sounds like binned processors are the duds, but I don't see it that way. With frequency binning, it's basically just a test where some continue working fine at higher speed and some don't. You get the same chip for less money, if you don't need all the horsepower. That's been done for decades. Any time you bought e.g. an i7 7300 or 7500, you were getting a 7700K that wasn't hitting the extreme frequencies.
With core binning, like on the M1Pro/Max, yeah, it happens that there's a defect in a part of the silicon. I don't need 32 GPU cores. Heck, I don't even need 24. So if I buy the 24 core Max, I'll again get the same chip cheaper. Again, this has also been done for quite some time.
Max all the way. Even if you don't need the extra GPU power, the extra memory bandwidth will futureproof your machine for additional 2 years.
That was my decision also as I also am a keeper.
(I still have a working SE/30, although it is not now my go to Mac ...)
What is the likelihood of securing MacBook Pro release date with trade in. I want to take a gamble at 16 inch base model. Canceled 14 inch base, with edu pricing it makes the move for 16 worth it.
I purchased the base M1Pro 14” on announcement day for delivery 10/26. I struggled with not upgrading the hd to 1TB seeing as my iphone has 512gb but it pushed out the delivery date quite a bit and I have to leave town in the middle of the pushed out date. I thought well, I can always get an external HD but now I’m second guessing that. I wonder what the chances are of picking up a base model with 1TB in store faster than getting it delivered. I’m on a mid 2012 8ram 500gb hd and the video camera doesn’t work which is impossible in the current zoom environment. If my location were more certain, this would be easier but I really can’t predict where I’ll be which makes shipping windows a hassle. I probably would be fine with an air, but I like that the pros stay relevant for so many years and I like the SD slot. Any thoughts?
I've had the same thoughts. It looks like Apple was crushed for orders. I'm not sure if the only models in store will be the ones they put on display. In any event you will probably need to act fast on the 26th!
Need some help deciding which configuration to order...
I'm a web designer/developer and some of the main programs I use are Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Figma/XD, Visual studio code, Chrome. No video editing, but sometimes create web animations. Also like to do some light gaming like Diablo 3 or League of Legends.
I'd definitely get the 16" model with 1TB storage, but since i've never used M1, I'm not sure on the RAM or CPU/GPU configs. I'm leaning towards mid-tier, 24 core GPU + 32GB ram, but is that overkill for my needs?
I'm a web designer/developer and some of the main programs I use are Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Figma/XD, Visual studio code, Chrome. No video editing, but sometimes create web animations. Also like to do some light gaming like Diablo 3 or League of Legends.
I'd definitely get the 16" model with 1TB storage, but since i've never used M1, I'm not sure on the RAM or CPU/GPU configs. I'm leaning towards mid-tier, 24 core GPU + 32GB ram, but is that overkill for my needs?
That's what I decided to go with which will be overkill really, but IMO it's kind of the sweet spot.
Honestly a 16"/1tb/16gb would likely be fine, or even 16"/1tb/32gb, but the +$200 gpu 24core upgrade is just so tempting.
I think upgrade time matters too.
IMO, if you upgrade every 2 or 3 years, I'd stay closer to a base model to save $ by avoiding less depreciation and using the $ for a future upgrade. Short upgrade cycles are very expensive with apple because (1) you take like a 30% hit right away, (2) you lose tax on every new purchase (6% or around $180), (3) you usually don't get major upgrades.
If you upgrade closer to 4,5+ years, I think it's probably worth just getting the upgrade because the cost/day for the upgrade gets much lower and will give some more longevity. (A $200 upgrade over 5 years is 11cents per day for the better igpu).
I think my current plan is 16"/1tb/32gb/24core gpu, and upgrade in ~ 5 years when wi-fi 7 is available and maybe OLED (OLED seems to be rumored and delayed every year). It's sort of nice to time upgrades to hardware features that will be long-lived. Unfortunately this model is lacking wi-fi 6e and av1 hardware decoding which are huge misses IMO. Next year's model may be the sweet spot for those that aren't in a rush, but I have a 10yr old macbook so will jump now. There's also some risk Apple will keep these on 2yr cycles rather than 1yr cycles. The other major decision point is how big of an upgrade the current model is compared to the history of devices, and this is a BIG one, so it's one of the better times to make a good sized purchase.
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I did a test run of my trade-in before the launch, then I placed my order it gave me the same trade-in value for my 2018 Air ($380).
If it's sleeping or off, you should be able to charge it slowly with a 30W PD powerbank. Trying to charge it with an 18W PD powerbank would be foolishness. I am not aware of any mainstream powerbanks that do more than 30W PD, unless you are looking at those huge camping batteries.
Thanks. I usually upgrade every 5-6 years, so it might be worth going for the 24 core upgrade.