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I doubt they’ll release any more Intel laptops. There are rumours of a Mac Pro desktop, but sadly that could be about it.
I'm wondering what the best option is for me to upgrade now so I can have more space, there is a 13" 2020 which uses Intel but that has i7 and no Radeon graphics card compared to the i9 and the 560x that I have currently.
 
I'm wondering what the best option is for me to upgrade now so I can have more space, there is a 13" 2020 which uses Intel but that has i7 and no Radeon graphics card compared to the i9 and the 560x that I have currently.
If you want a discrete GPU, you need a 16". It's the only one that has it. Otherwise, the 13" with Intel is still available with up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD. Or you can get an external disk for your current machine, which is currently a pretty cheap way to add lots of storage (starting around €200 for 2TB).
 
Does anyone think they'll release another Intel machine or is that unlikely now? Alot of things I use are not compatible with M1 which means I am limited to older machines.

I bought mine a few years ago (it's the 2019 i9 model) but I only have a 512 ssd and fast running out of space, so I would ideally like to upgrade to a 1TB but I'm not able to use M1.
I actually disagree with the posters above. I think they may update the 16 inches with Intel chips 11th gen H class chips and keep that version around for a while. I have not seen those chips widely available yet- I'd guess in the next month.

But my guess is they'd put these in the current form factor- keep that model around. Then the new form factor would have Mac chips.
 
Does anyone think they'll release another Intel machine or is that unlikely now? Alot of things I use are not compatible with M1 which means I am limited to older machines.

I bought mine a few years ago (it's the 2019 i9 model) but I only have a 512 ssd and fast running out of space, so I would ideally like to upgrade to a 1TB but I'm not able to use M1.
Buy the M2/M1X with 4 or 8 TB SSD + 64 GB RAM + 32 GPU cores. Will this setup be compatible enough or what exactly are you doing?
 
I actually disagree with the posters above. I think they may update the 16 inches with Intel chips 11th gen H class chips and keep that version around for a while. I have not seen those chips widely available yet- I'd guess in the next month.

But my guess is they'd put these in the current form factor- keep that model around. Then the new form factor would have Mac chips.
Chances for this scenario are super slim though. The original plan was a full transition within 2 years, one of which has already passed.
A Intel spec bump would mean Apple ran into serious issues in chip development, which is not exactly very likely
 
My current 13” MBP 2016 model is getting ridiculously slow for me. Im wondering whether it’s worth upgrading to the M1 Air or Pro? I was hoping the new MBP’s came out during WWDC but obviously that’s not happening and I’m assuming it’ll probably be released during October. The plan is to get the new ones regardless so buying an M1 would be a temporary fix.
 
My current 13” MBP 2016 model is getting ridiculously slow for me. Im wondering whether it’s worth upgrading to the M1 Air or Pro? I was hoping the new MBP’s came out during WWDC but obviously that’s not happening and I’m assuming it’ll probably be released during October. The plan is to get the new ones regardless so buying an M1 would be a temporary fix.
Unless you literally can’t get work done, I’d wait. July is still a possibility, and October is only four months away.
 
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Chances for this scenario are super slim though. The original plan was a full transition within 2 years, one of which has already passed.
A Intel spec bump would mean Apple ran into serious issues in chip development, which is not exactly very likely
not at all. Nothing stops them from launch both Intel and M1X models. And them doing so would in no way imply they are "having problems". wow.
 
My current 13” MBP 2016 model is getting ridiculously slow for me. Im wondering whether it’s worth upgrading to the M1 Air or Pro? I was hoping the new MBP’s came out during WWDC but obviously that’s not happening and I’m assuming it’ll probably be released during October. The plan is to get the new ones regardless so buying an M1 would be a temporary fix.
I have the exact same and even Office apps are sluggish and painful to use. Looking forward to the update whichever I end up getting.
 
I have the exact same and even Office apps are sluggish and painful to use. Looking forward to the update whichever I end up getting.
Yup same. It’s ridiculous. I wanna blame the hot weather in London as that’s when all these issues started but I keep getting the spinning rainbow, photoshop has closed on me multiple times, the fan is running at a much louder noise rate than usual, and even the general speed of the Mac has gotten so slow for some reason. I’m gonna try and hold out and pray the new MBP comes out very soon.
 
In terms of proof, we have the following:

1. The battery specs have already been filed with the Chinese regulatory database

2. TSMT has resolved some technical difficulties with its part in the mini-LED display production. Yields have increased to 95%.

3. Leaked schematics for the 14” from a partner manufacturing company. Leaked schematics for the new iMac match the new model exactly giving some credibility to the leaked MacBook Pro schematics.

4. Recent report from Apple suppliers that Apple plans to ship the MacBook Pro in Q3 which also matched Mark Gurmans claims of an early summer release.

5. Report of large scale production of M1X back in April. We got a similar report for the M1 back in September which turned up in the MacBook Air, 13” Pro and Mac Mini in November. If timing stays current, Apple should have enough M1X chips on hand for an initial launch supply as of this month.

Of course none of this is hard evidence but taking all of them into account points to these machines being very far into production and possibly nearly ready to ship out. As I said in another post, the battery specs being registered is a pretty big deal! Since the battery needs to be able to fit into the final casing and needs to be able to support all of the chips, fans, screen, etc. having the battery specs finalized means there’s a very good chance everything else has been finalized and sent to manufacturing partners. I HIGHLY doubt that anything this far along will just sit there until November…

There have been rumors of a July 20th event which is starting to sounds more and more likely. In fact for all the hype around WWDC, if we look back at all the rumors and leaks, it would seem that everything was pointing to July all along. We just discounted it since Apple doesn’t usually do a July event… but Apple has no obligation to always do things the same way.
It’s plausible and I hope it’s true. If it’s a late July event, then pre-orders would be late July/early Aug and they would ship September. It would muddle the BtS stuff, but Apple can handle that I suppose. Who care if someone returns a MBA and gets a more expensive model? Works in their favor in some ways.

The last Sept release for macOS was Mojave in 2018, so shipping in September definitely could happen.
 
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No, I meant it’s unlikely there would be two months between announcement and shipments. Apple occasionally does that for a brand new product, but updates almost always start shipping within a few weeks of announcement, if not immediately.

True. They could justify a month-long gap just as with the iPad Pros so that would mean pre-orders late July, shipping late August which basically means Sept.
 
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not at all. Nothing stops them from launch both Intel and M1X models. And them doing so would in no way imply they are "having problems". wow.
I would wager a large sum of money that Apple will not release another Intel powered notebook. They drew the line in the sand on that front and doing so would be admitting defeat and straight up devastating to the new independent image Apple is creating.

There is no hype with an Intel notebook. They would straight up prefer to let things languish until chips are ready at this point.

The only exception to this would be, as previously stated, a serious supply chain / tech issue on Apples end combined with Intel discontinuing production of the chips currently used, forcing Apple to use a newer chip to continue manufacturing MPB at all.
 
I would wager a large sum of money that Apple will not release another Intel powered notebook. They drew the line in the sand on that front and doing so would be admitting defeat and straight up devastating to the new independent image Apple is creating.

There is no hype with an Intel notebook. They would straight up prefer to let things languish until chips are ready at this point.

The only exception to this would be, as previously stated, a serious supply chain / tech issue on Apples end combined with Intel discontinuing production of the chips currently used, forcing Apple to use a newer chip to continue manufacturing MPB at all.
This is absurd since we already know they are going to do a Mac with an intel chip variant. Why do you think the high end MBP 16 inches would be an exception? There doing it for the Mac with an intel and Arm verison- there IS NO LINE IN THE SAND DRAWN.

They've already had a record long time between updates for the 16 inch model- if Intel is out next week you think Apple will just sit there and not update it even tho M2x is likely October? Of course not.
 
This is absurd since we already know they are going to do a Mac with an intel chip variant. Why do you think the high end MBP 16 inches would be an exception? There doing it for the Mac with an intel and Arm verison- there IS NO LINE IN THE SAND DRAWN.

They've already had a record long time between updates for the 16 inch model- if Intel is out next week you think Apple will just sit there and not update it even tho M2x is likely October? Of course not.

No chance Apple makes Apple vs. Intel silicon the key distinction on new MBPs. None.

Everything else aside, it would create too much confusion for the average buyer.
 
On another topic, are we expecting space gray to disappear as an MBP color option? That’s been my go-to color for everything, including my new iPad Pro 11-inch, but I just saw the story on the front page that Apple stopped selling some accessories in space gray.
 
On another topic, are we expecting space gray to disappear as an MBP color option? That’s been my go-to color for everything, including my new iPad Pro 11-inch, but I just saw the story on the front page that Apple stopped selling some accessories in space gray.
That's only because the only non-laptop that needed an external keyboard and was available in space grey, was the iMac Pro. And it has been discontinued some time ago. You can get it in silver for your silver mac mini, or in lotsa colours for your lotsa coloured imac. For Apple, there's no need for the space grey version anymore.
 
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Darn it looks like you guys called it right about October-November. Summer is starting to look less likely now that the back to school sale has started and there's already a rumor claiming Q4 although I think WWDC has taught us not to put too much trust in leakers. Apple is no longer required to time Mac product releases around Intel chip availability so the release of these things is more mysterious than usual.

If it does come in October or November that would put it after the introduction of the A15 chip generation... That makes me think even more that the M1X is more than just an M1 with more cores. It also makes me wonder how upgrade cycles will be handled.
 
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not at all. Nothing stops them from launch both Intel and M1X models. And them doing so would in no way imply they are "having problems". wow.
But if course. Yes, nothing is stopping them. But why would they do that? Intel is on the way out, Apple is all in on ASi.
Launching another Intel model along an ASi makes no sense whatsoever. Its either Intel or ASi. They would only do that if they had no choice. Hence they won‘t unless they have to - which in turn would of course mean they missed their target (equal to: having trouble).

Wow? Indeed
 
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I don't think you guys are being practical - not every "pro user" wants to go straight to Arm for certain workflows. That's why there will be 2 chips for Mac....doing the same on MBP makes sense for similar reasons.
 
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But if course. Yes, nothing is stopping them. But why would they do that? Intel is on the way out, Apple is all in on ASi.
Launching another Intel model along an ASi makes no sense whatsoever. Its either Intel or ASi. They would only do that if they had no choice. Hence they won‘t unless they have to - which in turn would of course mean they missed their target (equal to: having trouble).

Wow? Indeed
....becuase they've not had an update of any kind of the MBP 16 in forever? and the M1X is still a ways off.

And much like the Mac some may prefer it for certain applications until more time to transition has gone by. And it's the same thing they are doing on the Mac Pro?

In short, common sense?
 
....becuase they've not had an update of any kind of the MBP 16 in forever? and the M1X is still a ways off.

And much like the Mac some may prefer it for certain applications until more time to transition has gone by. And it's the same thing they are doing on the Mac Pro?

In short, common sense?
Indeed, common sense.
If the m1x (M2, rather) is still way off Apple missed its target.

Thank you for kindly proving my point
 
This is absurd since we already know they are going to do a Mac with an intel chip variant. Why do you think the high end MBP 16 inches would be an exception? There doing it for the Mac with an intel and Arm verison- there IS NO LINE IN THE SAND DRAWN.

They've already had a record long time between updates for the 16 inch model- if Intel is out next week you think Apple will just sit there and not update it even tho M2x is likely October? Of course not.
I disagree. Apple historically has not been driven by a "release at all costs, because the punters expect it" mentality. They will release the machine they planned, when they are ready. Look at MacMini and Mac Pro wait times, with threads proclaiming they were "just around the corner"...for years on end.

There is a possibility of a Mac Pro with an Intel CPU because these machines are (a) on a much longer release cycle (b) cater for more risk-averse professional users who would rather have predictability and guaranteed functionality over pure performance.

To release a MacBook Pro with an Intel CPU now, with the prospect of a much more performant and efficient Apple Silicon SoC being ready within 4-6 months, would be a terrible marketing failure on Apple's part. It would undermine confidence in Apple Silicon and frustrate uninformed buyers when they discover that Apple has released a machine that may be 50-100% faster with better battery life, a few months after they have spent big-bucks.

Moreover, no-one who follows Apple hardware releases would buy it, unless they absolutely had to due to a pressing work requirement. Just ask anyone on MacRumors if they would buy an Intel MBP now? I dare you....
 
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