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Well, that sounds freaking awesome. I'm on c4d and after effects and don't of know a solution like that. IIRC you have to have a certain software package and/or maintenance plan to get access to that, right? Is it useful for animation?

Google render farms ( there are plenty out there )
Heck..even google offers render farm services
 
If I remember correctly, you've said you are a graphic designer, right? If so, how do you plan to handle any font conflicts between old mac files and new Windows files?
I'm primarily interested in photography and I do graphics more to satisfy my art side the anything else.

As has been said, stick to opentype. What I have been doing the last couple of months is converting my docs over to a Windows compatible format. I moved all my iWork docs to Office, my notes and stickies to OneNote and docs with fonts are next. I plan on using TypeKit fonts from Adobe Creative Cloud and also fonts that are in Office which should get me in the ballpark.

My plan is to keep my MacPro active for a while while I test things and transfer docs over. This way, if something doesn't transfer well, I still have the Mac available to correct issues. Also, I figure that there will be some apps that I might not find equivalents for or may take some time to find. Doing things in steps should minimize issues (hopefully).
 
I'm primarily interested in photography and I do graphics more to satisfy my art side the anything else.

As has been said, stick to opentype. What I have been doing the last couple of months is converting my docs over to a Windows compatible format. I moved all my iWork docs to Office, my notes and stickies to OneNote and docs with fonts are next. I plan on using TypeKit fonts from Adobe Creative Cloud and also fonts that are in Office which should get me in the ballpark.

My plan is to keep my MacPro active for a while while I test things and transfer docs over. This way, if something doesn't transfer well, I still have the Mac available to correct issues. Also, I figure that there will be some apps that I might not find equivalents for or may take some time to find. Doing things in steps should minimize issues (hopefully).

Good Luck! I'd love to hear how it goes.

My trouble is that I've been in business since way before OpenType came into the picture. As a result I've got LOTS of Postscript fonts that I use daily. I bought them fair and square and am reluctant to buy them again in another format; it would be like buying the White Album all over again.
 
My trouble is that I've been in business since way before OpenType came into the picture. As a result I've got LOTS of Postscript fonts that I use daily. I bought them fair and square and am reluctant to buy them again in another format; it would be like buying the White Album all over again.
That's what really sucks about technology: the faster it moves, the sooner we have to start replacing our outdated or incompatible stuff. If you want to have cross platform options, then you should look into opentype or are you leaning towards staying with the Mac because of all your collected fonts? If you get to the point of wanting a PC, you could always buy any future fonts in opentype and gradually replace the old fonts one by one based on frequency of usage. You could always keep the older less used fonts on the Mac and do jobs that require them there.

IMHO, I think that in the long run, Microsoft is going to out innovate Apple because Tim and company are more concerned with the average consumer and the devices they will use. It's their business and their choice and it's up to us to decide if it fulfills our needs or not. HP and Microsoft have seen the opening to attract creatives with their Mac To Z program and the Surface Studio and efforts to attract creatives with the next update to Windows expected in March.
 
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Google render farms ( there are plenty out there )
Heck..even google offers render farm services

If I'm understanding this correctly, autodesk farm rendering is included in certain subscriptions. That's just awesome. It doesn't apply to my work for animation, which requires in house rendering or more traditional pay as you go rendering (which is still an option in a pinch).

Plus things like certain sims just need to be done locally for me. Super small team here. No idea how big FX teams handle sims. I'm assuming they have their own CPU and GPU farms since many of them also run proprietary software.
 
That's what really sucks about technology: the faster it moves, the sooner we have to start replacing our outdated or incompatible stuff. If you want to have cross platform options, then you should look into opentype or are you leaning towards staying with the Mac because of all your collected fonts? If you get to the point of wanting a PC, you could always buy any future fonts in opentype and gradually replace the old fonts one by one based on frequency of usage. You could always keep the older less used fonts on the Mac and do jobs that require them there.

Yeah. I'd pay for it by bumping my "technology" fee which we charge on each project. Usually that covers our software, internet, proofing and equipment maintenance/upgrades.

Also, I agree that Apple is only interested in the consumer gadgets. This whole thread is, in my opinion, just a way for us pro's to work through the stages of grief until we finally accept the change and move on with our lives and careers.

I'm just trying to balance my desire for the latest tech with my approaching retirement. How long can I hang on to what I've got? Do I really need to invest in new systems, or will my MP 5,1 and Adobe CS6 last for another 5-7 years? For graphic design, my current opinion is that my Mac will endure for the duration, barring any drastic malfunction or technology advances. Fingers remain crossed, and bank account held in reserve.
 
Apple's response to our wishes....
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If I'm understanding this correctly, autodesk farm rendering is included in certain subscriptions. That's just awesome. It doesn't apply to my work for animation, which requires in house rendering or more traditional pay as you go rendering (which is still an option in a pinch).

Plus things like certain sims just need to be done locally for me. Super small team here. No idea how big FX teams handle sims. I'm assuming they have their own CPU and GPU farms since many of them also run proprietary software.

I am one man team :D in the market for a workstation that will last 3 years before it begins to show its age. Waiting for a mac pro after burning my fingers on two rMBPs, imacs ( coming from a mac pro 3.1 ). For really large projects, I might use the online rendering services, Client permitting.

Big teams...well they have solid rack systems in house.

Small teams : If I was in your place, I would invest in a few dedicated ( depending on the weekly workload ) render/ simulation systems that can be accessed by the team.

The workstations themselves though would probably be single socket Xeons ( Max core count + speed ) + multi GPUs for the test renders.

And yes. Online render farms do support rendering animation. C4D has lots of support from the service providers.
Idea is to send the final animation renders to these services to free up your in-house systems for other work.
Do the cost calculations though. I suppose for medium sized work online rendering might become cost effective
 
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This whole thread is, in my opinion, just a way for us pro's to work through the stages of grief until we finally accept the change and move on with our lives and careers.
That's an excellent description of what is happening. After decades, Apple is pushing us towards a decision that we never thought we'd have to make.

One other thing that helped is that I paid almost $2k less for a current PC vs what I paid in 2009 for my Mac Pro. I have 4x the RAM, 2.3x the storage, a gtx 1070 vs ati 4870 and the only "sacrifice" was I went from dual 4 core 2.93's to a single 6 core 3.6 (turbo @ 3.8-4.0) because the Adobe apps I use don't make real use of more than 6 cores and an 8 would have added another $600 for very little gain. I have free lifetime support and labor and 3 year parts warranty (take that AppleCare).
 
you think the nMP will feature BT5 already? Seems devices will show 2 to 6 months from now, just in time for the nMP I guess.
New Magic Mouse 3 and Magic Keyboard with BT5?!
 
you think the nMP will feature BT5 already? Seems devices will show 2 to 6 months from now, just in time for the nMP I guess.
New Magic Mouse 3 and Magic Keyboard with BT5?!
I think that Tim and the other CBCs (Chief Bean Counters) are probably reading the MacRumours stories about people moving to Z-Series, Precision and other Windows 10 systems - and building the case for cancelling any update to the cylinder.

The MP7,1 could have been released in Q3'14 - it didn't happen.

The MP7,1 could have been released in Q1'16 - it didn't happen.

It's now almost Q1'17 - and a surprising number of people simply don't care anymore. They've moved on to more powerful systems worthy of the name "Pro" (but which don't use that de-valued term).

Don't expect to see the MP7,1. Or if you do see something named the New New Mac Pro - expect it to be a real letdown.
 
Don't think so.
I believe we'll be seeing the 7,1 next year, and it will be great.
Skylake, Vega, damn fast SSD, TB3, the works.
That will be a true upgrade.
This might be wishful thinking but I believe we'll be surprised.
 
Don't think so.
I believe we'll be seeing the 7,1 next year, and it will be great.
Skylake, Vega, damn fast SSD, TB3, the works.
That will be a true upgrade.
This might be wishful thinking but I believe we'll be surprised.
One thing to add for me: Liquid cooling, please ;).
 
Don't think so.
I believe we'll be seeing the 7,1 next year, and it will be great.
Skylake, Vega, damn fast SSD, TB3, the works.
That will be a true upgrade.
This might be wishful thinking but I believe we'll be surprised.

If that is the case. And I say a big IF. There's something that the WWDC will show devs about. Something that is keeping Apple from making a new one.

I don't believe Apple is going to produce a 7,1 any time soon unless WWDC has something that requires the 7,1 to be put off till June 2017.
 
Don't think so.
I believe we'll be seeing the 7,1 next year, and it will be great.
Skylake, Vega, damn fast SSD, TB3, the works.
That will be a true upgrade.
This might be wishful thinking but I believe we'll be surprised.
Surely at this point you wouldn't be surprised to hear that the Mac Pro line has been discontinued. ;)

And imagine a Z-series or Precision with dual Skylakes, dual or triple Pascals, tens of TB of internal storage in a mix of super-fast NVMe and cost effective big spinners,...

... compared to a single throttled Skylake, down-clocked midrange ATI GPUs, single proprietary SSD,...
 
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No way liquid cooling is going in there koyoot, sorry. Think about it, not Apple.
No room for it anyway.

I think they waited all this long and are not going to make a minor update, they're going all out.
Might as well wait a bit more and do it properly, with up to date tech.

Indeed, I would.
 
No way liquid cooling is going in there koyoot, sorry. Think about it, not Apple.
No room for it anyway.

I think they waited all this long and are not going to make a minor update, they're going all out.
Might as well wait a bit more and do it properly, with up to date tech.

Indeed, I would.
I know, its just mine wishful thinking/dream for cooling solution of that computer.
 
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No way liquid cooling is going in there koyoot, sorry. Think about it, not Apple.
No room for it anyway.

I think they waited all this long and are not going to make a minor update, they're going all out.
Might as well wait a bit more and do it properly, with up to date tech.

Indeed, I would.

Why not? It's not like Apple haven't used liquid cooling before, in the late quad G5's. Though I would concede that was probably a last ditch attempt to try and get some decent power out of the G5's without them setting on fire, and they were able to throw that solution away when they went to the Mac Pro - so pretty unlikely it'd make a return in a future model :)
 
I still see no latest rumors of nMP.
plan for 2017

march/april: ipad series

june-august: WWDC emoji upgrades/school/health related

sept: iphones

october-november: mbps and fillers.
 
I really hope there is a tease or some official indication (not an an announcement but something) well before WWDC. Perhaps something for NAB (late April 2017-which would work great for FCPX).
 
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