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I think he's scared ********. Trump is a 'kiss the ring' kind of tyrant, and Tim is only there to do that-an attempt to stay within the good graces.

One thing I miss is the passion. Steve promoted an environment of passionate vision-he demonstrated it when he was on stage... the only passion I see from cook is numbers. Trumps passion is trolling-can only imagine what number he's doing in tims head now.
The day trump gives Tim Cook that "knighthood slap in the face to get Mac up to date" technique is the day I will kiss trump's royal ring.
 
I follow MKBHD, even him regrets to buy this macbook, even I believe MS said the truth when they stand disappointied mac users switching to Surface Pro.
Marquess have said that MBP is overpriced. It is, but he does not regret buying it, he would buy it again, if he would have to, because for him its best all-rounder.
 
I agree. I am able to work on some 4K content while primarily focusing on 1080p videos on my 2010 Mac Pro. This is just about 7 years old now. Running Sierra and the new Final Cut have not slowed down this system at all. A lot of people seem to think that the 2013 Mac Pro will be useless in a few months or a few years.

And YOU can upgrade the CPU in the Mac Pro yourself if you want.


Internal storage and RAM can also be upgraded. Yeah it doesn't have PCIe slots, isn't that what Thunderbolt 2 is supposed to do?

We'll never know now that USB-C (or is it TB3?) is here and killed off or scared off all the developers before they had a decent chance. Just wait for USB-D or USB-E and Thunderbolt 4 ;) . If you can't find an external PCIe at a Fry's or a Best Buy, then you probably won't see any significant development except in the multi-thousand-dollar external stuff that nobody will buy because it'll be Tim-junk in a year or two.
 
One thing I miss is the passion. Steve promoted an environment of passionate vision-he demonstrated it when he was on stage... the only passion I see from cook is numbers.

Absolutely! I can't agree more.
Steve would't sit w/ a blank expression for an hour+ round table w/ the tech elite and president-elect.

The Cook is a great bean-counter and worked well with Steve at the helm.

The board should consider asking Tim to step down as CEO in favor of a new visionary leader.

Marquess have said that MBP is overpriced. It is, but he does not regret buying it, he would buy it again, if he would have to, because for him its best all-rounder.

In independent tests, when both the new MBP and 2013 nMP where able to run the same tests, the 2016 maxed out 15" MBP w/ a top end nvidia card connected via eGPU was 300 to 400% slower at best then a 12 core trashcan. Many things involving 4k to 8k video simply will not run on the MBP due to the platforms memory limits or require an eGPU to run at all.
 
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Absolutely! I can't agree more.
Steve would't sit w/ a blank expression for an hour+ round table w/ the tech elite and president-elect.

The Cook is a great bean-counter and worked well with Steve at the helm.

The board should consider asking Tim to step down as CEO in favor of a new visionary leader.

One thing that Tim is badly lacking is a sense of humour, and the self deprecation that Steve was capable of. He was (as we all know) an excellent presenter, extremely slick, BUT was so natural he managed to form that rapport with the audience / viewer. You watch some of the old keynotes and whilst Steve did have the infamous 'reality distortion field' he was also able to poke fun at himself and Apple sometimes when they screwed up. It made for comfortable, reassuring viewing.

Tim on the other hand... he just sounds so scripted, and like he's just reading from marketing promotional material. There's no humour now (apart from when Craig Federighi is on stage) - it's soo stiff, too cold, too 'business'. They really need to loosen the presentations up a bit.
 
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In independent tests, when both the new MBP and 2013 nMP where able to run the same tests, the 2016 maxed out 15" MBP w/ a top end nvidia card connected via eGPU was 300 to 400% slower at best then a 12 core trashcan. Many things involving 4k to 8k video simply will not run on the MBP due to the platforms memory limits or require an eGPU to run at all.
You have to be out of your mind to do that job mentioned on a laptop. It always baffle me on this forum. Why do people try to force computers to do job, they are not designed for?

nMP will have no problem with 8K footage. MBP - always will have. Any laptop will ultimately have problem with this.

Well, of course, you can do the thing mentioned, by you on a laptop. But you have to be a masochist to do it, in the first place. Thats why desktops will never go out of the heavy work.
 
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Marquess have said that MBP is overpriced. It is, but he does not regret buying it, he would buy it again, if he would have to, because for him its best all-rounder.

Watch from "11

- worth the price?
> No, its definitively Overpriced for sure ....
[...]
- if you are looking foa a MBP, better hold on for 2017 version....

I realized the same conclusion, the MBP L2016 its overpriced and seems a risky huge investment.

Hope next year Apple besides to include DDR4/32/64 GB options, also switch back to discrete storage not soldered one, and abandon the idea to make things slimmer at expense of performance/useless, this is not a feature PROs want.
 
Why do people try to force computers to do job, they are not designed for?

Absolutely, but remember, in the recent MBP reveal event they showed the new 15" laptop on a desk sitting next to a 6K RED camera, and exclaimed something along the lines of, "This is your new workstation".

I know for a fact, using footage from that same camera, you can't work with its files well (in some cases at all and it won't render) unless you have at least 8GB of video memory.
 

Watch from "11

- worth the price?
> No, its definitively Overpriced for sure ....
[...]
- if you are looking foa a MBP, better hold on for 2017 version....

I realized the same conclusion, the MBP L2016 its overpriced and seems a risky huge investment.

Hope next year Apple besides to include DDR4/32/64 GB options, also switch back to discrete storage not soldered one, and abandon the idea to make things slimmer at expense of performance/useless, this is not a feature PROs want.
But he would buy it again, hands down ;).

I think ALL of potential clients of Apple came to the same conclusion. MBP 2016 is not worth the money. Maybe 13 inch is. But 100% sure that 15 inch way overpriced. 500$ less and we can start to talk.
 
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He as to show up to make sure he won't get slap with tarrifs or taxes while the other tech CEO get gift and bonuses.
Wasn't it reported that Tim Cook and Elon Musk were going to have a separate meeting with Trump. Tim Cook was probably just holding his cards until he had the one on one with Trump. Apple has an off shore cash hoard that Trump would probably like to have them bring into the U.S. Apple will want a substantial tax break to even consider it. Trump also wants Apple to bring jobs back into this country. I'm sure they talked about possible deals and what Apple sees as being a real possibility from their perspective.
 
No MacPro 7,1 will be released (at least based on Intel and available anytime soon).

You may be happy w/ the 2017 iMac (pro) w/ vega GPU option (and rumored BTO 10-core version)!

Many are not aware support for nMP is ending relatively soon:
2013 nMP is scheduled by Apple to be classified as obsolete at the end of 2018 (24 months from now).

2012 cMP is also scheduled as obsolete by Apple at the end of next year (12 months from now)


Mac Pro is a dead product

You just saved me a lot of money. What's your rig and editor? (Please.)
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Google render farms ( there are plenty out there )
Heck..even google offers render farm services

Maybe Trump will include National Fiber as part of an infrastructure plan. -Cheaper and more useful than another war.
 
Ugh.
I finally gave up. I'm selling my base Mac Pro and ordered a custom PC.

When the front page news is hands on with Mario brothers game ...Well.

What are you gonna be using the Custom PC for? And, what did you use your base Mac Pro for? Which Mac Pro?

I'm just curious!
 
Ugh.


What are you gonna be using the Custom PC for? And, what did you use your base Mac Pro for? Which Mac Pro?

I'm just curious!

There's only one base Mac Pro.

I'm not a professional . Don't use CAD or rendering etc.

Barebones w/ Intel Core i7 (Socket 2011-3)
w/ Core i7 6850K (6 x 4.0GHz CPU - 15MB Cache)
Asus X99 STRIX Gaming MB
Liquid Cooling Package
16GB DDR4-2400 (2x8GB Kit) up to 128GB I think
256GB - M.2 PCIe - (SSD)
Thermaltake Showcase Mid-Tower Case
750W - Power Supply w/ Active PFC
Windows 10 Pro
12x Blu-Ray Combo Drive
nVidia GeForce GTX1050 Ti - 4GB
Thunderbolt-3 drop in card.
2-USB-C ports.
4-USB-3 ports

Standard - Build, Burn-in, Test; Ship Out in Approx 3 to 5 Business Days
2 Year Direct Replacement Warranty (With Free - Lifetime Tech Support)

$2000.00


Thing is if I want to upgrade I can.

First time with a PC in over 14 years.
 
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There's only one base Mac Pro.

I'm not a professional . Don't use CAD or rendering etc.

Barebones w/ Intel Core i7 (Socket 2011-3)
w/ Core i7 6850K (6 x 4.0GHz CPU - 15MB Cache)
Asus X99 STRIX Gaming MB
Liquid Cooling Package
16GB DDR4-2400 (2x8GB Kit) up to 128GB I think
256GB - M.2 PCIe - (SSD)
Thermaltake Showcase Mid-Tower Case
750W - Power Supply w/ Active PFC
Windows 10 Pro
12x Blu-Ray Combo Drive
nVidia GeForce GTX1050 Ti - 4GB
Thunderbolt-3 drop in card.
2-USB-C ports.
4-USB-3 ports

Standard - Build, Burn-in, Test; Ship Out in Approx 3 to 5 Business Days
2 Year Direct Replacement Warranty (With Free - Lifetime Tech Support)

$2000.00


Thing is if I want to upgrade I can.

First time with a PC in over 14 years.
I imagine you won't be the last :)
 
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But he would buy it again, hands down ;).

I think ALL of potential clients of Apple came to the same conclusion. MBP 2016 is not worth the money. Maybe 13 inch is. But 100% sure that 15 inch way overpriced. 500$ less and we can start to talk.
if the 15" was 500$ less...than who will be bought the 13" i mean 13" at 1799$ with dual corei5 +8gb ram vs 15" at $1899 for quad core i7+16gb ram. Come on man, be real
 
if the 15" was 500$ less...than who will be bought the 13" i mean 13" at 1799$ with dual corei5 +8gb ram vs 15" at $1899 for quad core i7+16gb ram. Come on man, be real
If the 15 inch would be 500$ cheaper, then the 13 inch would also be cheaper by appropriate margin...
 
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If the 15 inch would be 500$ cheaper, then the 13 inch would also be cheaper by appropriate margin...
in this case yes, but you said nothing about it, just that the 13" is maybe worth the money. 500$ less....my god so Apple should go bankruptcy. I think next gen we can have a max 200$ price cut for both, even the non touch bar that will enter macbook air price point
 
There's only one base Mac Pro.

I'm not a professional . Don't use CAD or rendering etc.

Barebones w/ Intel Core i7 (Socket 2011-3)
w/ Core i7 6850K (6 x 4.0GHz CPU - 15MB Cache)
Asus X99 STRIX Gaming MB
Liquid Cooling Package
16GB DDR4-2400 (2x8GB Kit) up to 128GB I think
256GB - M.2 PCIe - (SSD)
Thermaltake Showcase Mid-Tower Case
750W - Power Supply w/ Active PFC
Windows 10 Pro
12x Blu-Ray Combo Drive
nVidia GeForce GTX1050 Ti - 4GB
Thunderbolt-3 drop in card.
2-USB-C ports.
4-USB-3 ports

Standard - Build, Burn-in, Test; Ship Out in Approx 3 to 5 Business Days
2 Year Direct Replacement Warranty (With Free - Lifetime Tech Support)

$2000.00


Thing is if I want to upgrade I can.

First time with a PC in over 14 years.

I also seriously recommend skipping the liquid cooling. It's fashionable these days (don't skip the LED's!), but completely unnecessary in the vast majority of systems. It's far more prone to problems, often noiser (pump plus fans), harder to fix or replace if something goes wrong, much more expensive and consumes a lot more power. Get a quality air cooler instead and save some money and possible grief down the road. Use the money saved to get a faster graphics card or something.

I also recommend a smaller power supply. Buying a supply that is too large is inefficient. The efficiency of a power supply drops if you aren't using enough power for it to be in its most efficient zone of operation (i.e., when used lightly). For that system, probably 500-550W is already way more than sufficient even considering possible upgrades down the road. Again, save a few bucks or use the saved money to buy a higher-quality, quieter version.

(I too lost my old dual G5 due to failed liquid cooling - right after Applecare expired.)
 
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