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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Hey everyone! Let's laugh at product concepts that have no basis in reality, physics, heat, or stuff like PCIe lanes!
http://pascaleggert.de/macpro.html
http://pascaleggert.de/macpro.html
really like the concept, but you're right, not a lot of logic. the 1080s are upside down if you want the air to escape upwards. also, not sure how to connect a standard GPU port to route to the back. looks like it could be a dual socket, but unsure how you would attach each CPU to the heatsinks on either side, then connect them "together" or to the motherboard. also unsure where the PSU lives. if this were possible, though, i'd be down for it. looks great!
I can deal with Soldered RAM, CPU, GPU by buying according future expectations, but I cant do that on storage, I switched ssd storage on every Mac I had on N reasons (virus, failure, os experiments, selling a machine with sensitive data, and excessive wear due my own experimental software (I'm a developer), a machine with soldered storage is something I had to consider carefully, Apple goes too far.
A tbMBP now Means: order the biggest SSD available if you foresee disk intensive applications, also get the longest Apple care warranty extension, since before that you are naked ASAP your storage wears or fail the mac is garbage (SSD controller failure are a more common than ssd fail due wear).
Soldered storage is ok on devices like iPhone (sparse data writen), not on 3000$+ computer (intense data write).
Maybe when Intel's Optane SSD becomes mainstream (and main) and fully replaces TLC ssd I consider a Soldered SSD.
CPU and GPU, sure. Especially on a laptop. That's more or less industry standard and for good reason.
I still think RAM is not worth it. The space it saves is meaningless to me and I've had, I think, 2 RAM sticks fail in the last ~3 years (out of 16 across my computers). I agree SSD is worse than RAM, but I still very much dislike the RAM being soldered.
I've also replaced the battery on my 2011 MBP twice now! And have you seen what's entailed in changing that batter on the 2016 model, yikes. I'm happy to go digging in computers, but taking the whole main board off and then fighting through some serious glue is a little more than I think I'm willing to do.
Upgradable components are much better for the environment. Are they not? Apple always say they are proud of their environmental contribution.
I actually really like overall design, sure, there is alot of misses in terms of heat management, component layout, I/O overload etc but if refined i'll take it if it would let me have 2 GPUs, 2 CPUs, 2 NVMe drives and 2 cheap but big SATA SSD:s. And yes, i realize my wishes are a pipe dream.
Those are wicked designs, not just the Mac Pro.
He even copied the page layout from Apple!!
Too many TB3 ports to be something serious though.
But nice...
[doublepost=1484251016][/doublepost]Here's a list of people who left Apple recently:
http://fudzilla.com/news/42603-top-staff-flee-apple
Wow
[doublepost=1484252647][/doublepost]Developer beta 4 out just after beta 3. That was quick.
I don't expect meaningful news regarding the nMP.
He even copied the page layout from Apple!!
Too many TB3 ports to be something serious though.
But nice...
[doublepost=1484251016][/doublepost]Here's a list of people who left Apple recently:
http://fudzilla.com/news/42603-top-staff-flee-apple
Wow
[doublepost=1484252647][/doublepost]Developer beta 4 out just after beta 3. That was quick.
I don't expect meaningful news regarding the nMP.
Those are wicked designs, not just the Mac Pro.
He even copied the page layout from Apple!!
Too many TB3 ports to be something serious though.
But nice...
[doublepost=1484251016][/doublepost]Here's a list of people who left Apple recently:
http://fudzilla.com/news/42603-top-staff-flee-apple
Wow
[doublepost=1484252647][/doublepost]Developer beta 4 out just after beta 3. That was quick.
I don't expect meaningful news regarding the nMP.
Keep in mind that Silicon Valley has a storied history of companies tanking just after building their corporate grand edifice. SGi being a notable example, but by no means the only example.
Campus 2 equals Apple dooooooom!
...because there's no way in hell that Elon Musk would hire Tim?
Tim's stuck in this dead-end job at Apple with no chance of career advancement.
The answer is, unfortunately like every question of environmental costs and impacts, not simple. Take plastic bags, for example: reusable tote bags are better for the environment, right? Well, actually, the amount of energy required to make that bag might mean you were better of using plastic, and few of those reusable bags actually get recycled. But on the flip side, that's still less plastic trash that dirties your streets, ends up everywhere and in the oceans. So which is "better"?
Likewise, the reality is that most people don't actually upgrade their computers ever, even among pros. If Apple repairs something, they aren't tossing out the whole computer in the process, and they're more likely to recycle e-waste, so I highly doubt upgradable component actually improves Apple's environment footprint much at all. Plus, those upgraded components you add after-market aren't appearing by magic—they have to be packaged up in rarely-recycled plastics and shipped in gas-guzzling trucks to stores or warehouses, and if you're ordering that stuff yourself, have you considered the carbon footprint your Amazon order has added?
I don't think that Tim sees it as destruction, but rather transformation into a company that leads the way into what he perceives will be the future of consumer computing and devices. He is going to follow that bouncing dollar sign all the way to the bank until it doesn't bounce anymore and then he will just find another dollar sign or another bank.
The sad thing is where does he go after Apple is a luxury designer fashion brand? The blind self destruction is offensive.
Ohh yeah, Rose Gold devices with odd looking expensive Hermes Leather Bands, that whats he perceives as the future, I have a rather different Idea: Immersible AI augmented Social Devices those that allow you to work,travel and socialize in ways never seen before.
Where's any indication that's where Apple's headed? The fact that they decided not to refresh the gold Watch editions is plain enough evidence they aren't.
There is a symmetry between the Mac line and the iPad line. The iPad mini is disappearing, as it seems it is going to happen with the Mac mini. On the Pro side, instead, Apple seems to have the serious intention to differentiate the products, being confirmed by the latest rumors on the upcoming Pro models.
iPad Pro gets the pencil with respect to the consumer models, the MBP the touchbar. The nMP should get added functions and it is - I think - unlikely that it is going to have the same form factor as the iMac. Definitely not the 2015 model. What's the point of making an iMac Pro with the present design, which is already relatively old?
I don't think the Mac Pro is dead. Neither I think Apple will opt for an iMac Pro. Linking professionals to an all-in-one constraints the performance even more than the trashcan did, compared to the grater. Studios/professionals have often quite expensive monitors and no need to create additional space for a compulsory 5K/8K.
iPad Pro gets the pencil with respect to the consumer models, the MBP the touchbar. The nMP should get added functions and it is - I think - unlikely that it is going to have the same form factor as the iMac. Definitely not the 2015 model. What's the point of making an iMac Pro with the present design, which is already relatively old?
I don't think the Mac Pro is dead. Neither I think Apple will opt for an iMac Pro. Linking professionals to an all-in-one constraints the performance even more than the trashcan did, compared to the grater. Studios/professionals have often quite expensive monitors and no need to create additional space for a compulsory 5K/8K.
Sure, like charging your Tesla electricity from a coal power plant. But given a choice, I’ll go for replaceable memory, GPUs, drives and monitors and even fans every time. And I’m willing to pay for that flexibility. At the bare minimum in a pro laptop, you should be able to easily replace battery and drives. But I’m not talking about extreme portability form factors, like, say, an Air. When it comes to a pro desktop, upgradeability is more important than portability. It doesn’t happen often, but solving for a bad drive or corrupt system by replacing the drive in minutes or selecting a backup start up disk in seconds hardly interrupts workflow compared to the alternative.
I'm not arguing that it might not be better for user-replaceable parts for your own use cases, I'm disputing the above notion that non-user-upgradable parts are actually worse for the environment.
I sent Tim a note to check out the Mac Pro 2 concept page.
http://pascaleggert.de/macpro.html
In my brief communiqué I acknowledged the artistic rendition has problems;
however, the core concept satisfies many professional needs...
...but he hasn't written me back yet though
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Give it time, he has to hire a bunch of archaeologist first so he can understand what prehistoric age that archaic device you where referring to comes from...but he hasn't written me back yet though