That makes me sad. Ah well, I'll wait on the iPad refresh as a holdover.
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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That makes me sad. Ah well, I'll wait on the iPad refresh as a holdover.
What makes me very sad is what Tim said "desktop is strategic..."
Heard bits and pieces that now the iMac is also pinned to Vega, but it would have to be Vega 11. So it's going to be a while...
It seems crazy but so does everything else with the Mac right now.
There should be an (i)Mac update soon, before end of April.
Unless marketing make
hold-off and release it w/ the (i)Mac Pro at the same time this Summer.
That's if the (i)Mac Pro gets its paint job and doesn't become a BTO hardware upgrade option for the plain (i)Mac.
Lots of turmoil and leadership/culture/transitional changes going on at
Its become a crap shoot as more-and-more working there have less-and-less idea about anything.
Unless marketing make
hold-off and release it w/ the (i)Mac Pro at the same time this Summer.That's if the (i)Mac Pro gets its paint job and doesn't become a BTO hardware upgrade option for the plain (i)Mac.
Lots of turmoil and leadership/culture/transitional changes going on at
Its become a crap shoot as more-and-more working there have less-and-less idea about anything.
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No matter what form it is in, 2017 gotta have at least one Mac desktop out, otherwise Tim would have to eat his own words from the "mac desktop commitment" statement.
With that out of the way, the remaining argument is how underwhelming / disappointing this thing will be.
With that out of the way, the remaining argument is how underwhelming / disappointing this thing will be.
iMac will almost certainly be coming, when is anybody's guess.
I'd say only 4K and 5K will remain. KBL and SSD finally (or maybe they'll use Optane), Vega seems a log shot - Polaris rev. 2 seems more likely.
Unless they actually wait for Vega 11.
And maybe we'll see nMP Mid 2017, but Late 2017 is more likely I guess.
I'd say only 4K and 5K will remain. KBL and SSD finally (or maybe they'll use Optane), Vega seems a log shot - Polaris rev. 2 seems more likely.
Unless they actually wait for Vega 11.
And maybe we'll see nMP Mid 2017, but Late 2017 is more likely I guess.
If that's all they can knock out in a year, then they've got major problems. I think we'll be seeing more hardware than that somehow.
I'd still wager seeing a Kaby Lake upgrade to the iMac and a jump to AMD's new GPUs based on the rumors I've seen posted on MR.
The stuff people are bringing up in this thread about a possible iMac Pro are intriguing, but I have not seen any other outlets reporting that. I simply won't be able to wait until summer or later for a new machine, and I it's looking more and more like I'll need nVidia hardware to pursue GPU rendering, and windows to pursue a new 3rd party OpenGL render in C4d.
Gross. DANG.
Tim and Angela wouldn't miss the spring and fall watch band collections.
We'll likely see the iMac announced at the March event with the new iPad Pros as the CPUs and GPUs should be ready by then. Worst case it will be like the 5K iMac launch in 2014 where they announced it in October, but did not start shipping until December due to parts shortages.
As for Mac Pro, I am inclined to agree with Jim Dalrymple that there is something "wrong" with the current design that has extended the replacement period so long. Perhaps it cannot cool the latest GPUs and CPUs without running the fans at a speed that makes the machine too loud? Perhaps it is too expensive to manufacture so even at the prices they're charging, margins are slim? (We have heard rumors Apple is considering moving Mac Pro production from the US to China). So maybe Apple is working on an all-new design and it's just taking time to prepare that design for mass production. Or they intend to kill it when they announce a new "iMac Pro" with a six/eight-core i7 and workstation class GPUs.
As for Mac Pro, I am inclined to agree with Jim Dalrymple that there is something "wrong" with the current design that has extended the replacement period so long. Perhaps it cannot cool the latest GPUs and CPUs without running the fans at a speed that makes the machine too loud? Perhaps it is too expensive to manufacture so even at the prices they're charging, margins are slim? (We have heard rumors Apple is considering moving Mac Pro production from the US to China). So maybe Apple is working on an all-new design and it's just taking time to prepare that design for mass production. Or they intend to kill it when they announce a new "iMac Pro" with a six/eight-core i7 and workstation class GPUs.
Not so sure. On the website, the only place you see a Mac Pro is next to a discontinued Thunderbolt Display... like a grieving lamenting widow, not too far off from sharing her beloveds fate....I'm going to take today's Logic Pro X 10.3 update as a sign that Apple still cares for the "pros". New Mac Pro in 2017!
BTW is there an easy way to navigate to Final Cut Pro and logics webpages? I had to use the search, it's like their buried in the not so new storefront. (Thanks Angela).
More like MacBook Pro...I'm going to take today's Logic Pro X 10.3 update as a sign that Apple still cares for the "pros". New Mac Pro in 2017!
Yes. More color palette, iOS Sharing, that's it. But BTW, Logic is almost the perfect producer/songwriter/beatmaker DAW, so a major update is not needed.
...I'm going to take today's Logic Pro X 10.3 update as a sign that Apple still cares for the "pros". New Mac Pro in 2017!
This was an unexpected good sign.
Yes. I'm relatively new to the video world and still i use iMovie and i think that in six months i'll switch over to Final Cut, but it's not even one of my priorities right now. For audio, i still consider the fact that the Alchemy softsynth was 250$ before Apple bought CamelAudio. And now it's included in the 199$ LPX.
At least in the stores they've swapped out the Thunderbolt Display for the LG 5k at the Mac Pro.
Maybe?
- The design has locked them in to a certain set of thermal/TDP requirements. In that way, it's made it more difficult to upgrade.
- AMD and Intel (now entirely AMD) has really dropped the ball on upgrades suitable for the Mac Pro. That has slowed the upgrade cycle, and isn't totally a fault of the design. The smaller design does limit GPU upgrades though. Apple not using Nvidia boxes them in too. (Stop suggesting Nvidia GPUs. It's not happening.)
- Apple needs enough engineers to work to maintain the Mac line, and that's not a problem with the design.
- Yes, but not impossible.
- The only one who dropped the ball is Apple, who prefer creating standards rather than adhere to them.
- You seem to have a short memory. In 2007-2009, Apple used Nvidia and AMD. 2010-2011, AMD. 2012 was Nvidia. 2013 had some products use AMD, some Nvidia. 2014 onwards has been AMD. No reason Apple would lock them into one GPU provider (and Intel). It's not in their interests.
- They pulled staff from other teams to help with the 2016 MacBook Pro, presumably delaying everything else.
No reason why Apple couldn't use Nvidia in the MacPro7,1. As an example, a mobile GTX 1070 has a TDP of 115w; the current 450w PSU could easily power two of these, a Xeon and whatever else. And that's not factoring in advances in SFX PSUs in the last 4 years.
What sucks is that they went for some bespoke connector rather than MXM. But then I guess they'd only do that if they wanted people to upgrade, which they clearly don't any more.
Apple are clearly done with doing their version of a classic Workstation design, and the commodity-style miniaturised form factor is probably here to stay.
The gift and the curse of going with Apple is they're at the bleeding edge; you can get features and a sense of design that's way ahead of everyone else, but there's always a cost in one form or another.