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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Now these are news. Is this really our first concern?
Will the ocean reach the Apple HQ or not?
Millions of people are going to have huge and incomparable more serious problems.
But please, this is not a discussion for this thread, we 're mixing subjects and this one about the climate issues is far more important and must be discussed elsewhere more maturely.
Will the ocean reach the Apple HQ or not?
Millions of people are going to have huge and incomparable more serious problems.
But please, this is not a discussion for this thread, we 're mixing subjects and this one about the climate issues is far more important and must be discussed elsewhere more maturely.
".... NeXT sold 20,000 computers in 1992 ...
.... In total, 50,000 NeXT machines were sold .... "
even when NeXT switched over to selling NeXTStep 486 ... " ... Prior to the release of NeXTSTEP, Chrysler planned to buy 3,000 copies in 1992 ... "
The whole 300-500K units of market size talked about here .... they never cracked at extremely high percentages. The fundamental flaw here is that IBM HP/Apollo workstations that are segregated off to the left completely ignores the fact that IBM and HP has PCs on the right hand side of the board too.
This is also extremely dated in that "desktop publishing" doesn't require a top end workstation anymore. The hand waving of everything is going to leave the Mainframe and drifting out of individualized, data siloed PCs was/is/will be a bad idea. Not trapped specifically in IBM 360 OS pricing schemes, but "big iron in vast machine rooms " is still around.
All this video really points to is that the customers in the workstation market are changing over time. What the workloads are and tasks being done shifts over time. Selling the machines to do the exact same task to the exact same people over and over again is a trap over the long term. "Apple isn't selling a workstation to me and my individual/niche needs so they are going to fail"..... history shows that is mainly not necessarily true. This video is just yet another example of that if actually look at what happened instead of just simply fawning over Steve Jobs talking.
I just liked SJ's view on professionals who look for power in their machines. I consider that statement still valid. I didn't... fawn about anything. Peace, man.
Power simply for its own sake isn't valid. If it was so deeply valid NeXt wouldn't have sputtered like it did.
What is "power" in computing hasn't been a static dimension for the entire history of electronic transistor computing. The user workloads and the compute capabilities are not moving at the same rates ( never have been and probably never will. )
Sure man, whatever you say.
This is another interesting machine. Hackintoshes are getting easier and easier to build.
Move your ass, Tim! If they really want to kill the MP, then at least licence macOS and let us build a few monsters!
This is another interesting machine. Hackintoshes are getting easier and easier to build.
Move your ass, Tim! If they really want to kill the MP, then at least licence macOS and let us build a few monsters!
@askunk is right.
Next didn't stutter, it was bought by Apple. The "professional workstation" users that were referenced in the video is where Apple went to court in the late 90's into the mid 00's. If you ask me we are at a similar crossroads. Unfortunately there's no one in leadership who can articulate the argument and lack the vision to even understand.
Next didn't stutter, it was bought by Apple. The "professional workstation" users that were referenced in the video is where Apple went to court in the late 90's into the mid 00's. If you ask me we are at a similar crossroads. Unfortunately there's no one in leadership who can articulate the argument and lack the vision to even understand.
Apple would succeed just fine if they only made iPhones and iPads. I think we know this isn't about failing/succeeding.
Hacks are getting harder to build. Sierra doesn't sleep on Skylake's integrated graphics. AMD GPUs take some fiddling to get to work and they can't go to sleep. Nvidia's Pascal isn't supported at all. NVMe PCIe SSDs requires drivers from random corners of the internet.
totally. I find it amusing when people say Apple is failing, because they haven't updated a machine that makes them next to nothing in comparison to the phone / iPad etc.
I wish this wasn't the case though as they would then keep it all current [desperately need a new workstation....], but really if I had a product that sold in huge quantities and made me a fortune against something that didn't, I know where my focus would lie.
I doubt Apple finances would barely notice it if they canned the mac pro and mac mini, and left the iMac as the only desktop. Yes, some people [like me and my biz] like the services tie ins etc, and buy into the phones and all the other toys, but really I don't believe there are that many of us.
Most people I know own a PC for work and have an iPhone and iPad. A desktop mac cancellation wouldn't even register with all these guys.
Isn't Mac sales worth $2b ? Isn't that a lot - say would dell / lenova call it worthless?
Interesting concept. If I was stuck with the current Mac Pro I'd definitely pursue this.
As a bump? And something next year
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/04/apple-pushes-the-reset-button-on-the-mac-pro/
This is 2012 all over again.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/04/apple-pushes-the-reset-button-on-the-mac-pro/
This is 2012 all over again.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/04/appl...dular-mac-pros-next-year-with-apple-displays/
So it appears goMac's informations were correct.
So it appears goMac's informations were correct.
I do not see any updates.
These are great news!
To be honest at first I thought it may be an April's 1st joke...
Thanks for sharing.
Apple communicates! Silence has ended!
I never thought non-communcation was a good policy in the pro market.
http://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives
I have to say I didn't expect the spec bump that occurred today but as for the rest, I've been saying for months and in the case of the Mac Pro, longer than that. Especially the most doubted aspect, the fact that Apple will release a 1st party display. It still baffles me why people argued against me on this.
I have to say I didn't expect the spec bump that occurred today but as for the rest, I've been saying for months and in the case of the Mac Pro, longer than that. Especially the most doubted aspect, the fact that Apple will release a 1st party display. It still baffles me why people argued against me on this.
Yeah, its great, and i will try to not complain that much when it is basically good news, BUT:
Why next year? Why is Apple almost always 1 year away from their "amazing product pipeline" nowadays? Next year Skylake-EP and -W would have been out for quite some time (Apple have access to them now, atleast the -EP, so the manufacturing could start and be ready when Intel "release" the cpu to the public), and Vega would have been out for a while, TB3 would have been out for ages and still no Mac Pro with TB3 until then. They had 4 years to plan the next MP, it should have become available as soon as all the chips are available in middle of 2017, both CPU and GPU will be but Apple stubborn design group will drag out the release date all the way into the next year? And which time next year? Spring? Summer? I bet it will be in the fall or winter 2018.
Does this news give you guys that are on the fence about switching any confidence at all that Apple will pull through and offer you a stable platform with LTS for your business? Is the damage already done? Have to many people already switched so when Apple finally release a new Mac Pro in 2018, they could have lost so many customers already that there is just a tiny tiny minority of a minority left that will buy it and thanks to that, Apple will kill it altogether thanks to poor sales?
Yes, thanks Apple for listening on our battlecries for once but i hope its not to late, good luck, i am looking forward to the nnMP, i though; have already switched.
Why next year? Why is Apple almost always 1 year away from their "amazing product pipeline" nowadays? Next year Skylake-EP and -W would have been out for quite some time (Apple have access to them now, atleast the -EP, so the manufacturing could start and be ready when Intel "release" the cpu to the public), and Vega would have been out for a while, TB3 would have been out for ages and still no Mac Pro with TB3 until then. They had 4 years to plan the next MP, it should have become available as soon as all the chips are available in middle of 2017, both CPU and GPU will be but Apple stubborn design group will drag out the release date all the way into the next year? And which time next year? Spring? Summer? I bet it will be in the fall or winter 2018.
Does this news give you guys that are on the fence about switching any confidence at all that Apple will pull through and offer you a stable platform with LTS for your business? Is the damage already done? Have to many people already switched so when Apple finally release a new Mac Pro in 2018, they could have lost so many customers already that there is just a tiny tiny minority of a minority left that will buy it and thanks to that, Apple will kill it altogether thanks to poor sales?
Yes, thanks Apple for listening on our battlecries for once but i hope its not to late, good luck, i am looking forward to the nnMP, i though; have already switched.