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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)

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tuxon86

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linuxcooldude said:
The D700's are indeed Firepros. Specs pretty match up perfectly with the PC AMD Firepro's W9000. Rebranding of current consumer to workstation brand with differences in support, drivers and minor hardware differences, is done among major manufactures. Even Nvidias Quattro workstation graphics have been known to be rebranded from their consumer versions.

When the 2013 Mac Pro came out Firepro drivers were not full developed in the window platform still showing D700 are based on their consumer versions. We now have full Firepro driver support within windows.

One card for graphic monitors and one for compute comes from software developers not properly supporting dual graphic card use.
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Not even close to reality... Again.
 
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It's a developers conference, but for Apple it is a fashion and lifestyle show. It is weird.
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Absolutely. Apple requires to use Xcode right? At least to develop on iOS from what I understand, and you need Apple hardware to do that on, so strut the possibilities.

Shameful wwdc in my opinion, I realize that sounds harsh, because they opened so much up to developers, but damn they missed an opportunity.
 
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From Apple Developer preview of macOS Sierra Metal:
Metal adds support for tessellation using a flexible compute-based approach, enabling 3D apps and games to render more detailed scenes by efficiently describing complex geometry to the GPU. Metal Function Specialization makes it easy to create a collection of highly optimized shaders to handle all the material and light combinations in a scene.

Now available on macOS, Metal System Trace offers deep insight into the graphics pipeline by profiling the interaction of the CPU and GPU, revealing performance optimization opportunities for Metal-based apps.
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So at least Shader Model 5.0 is supported. I suppose it is in fact Shader Model 6.0 or HLSL, because it is OpenSource, and Apple can use it as they want for their platform.
 
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No new hardware at all, seriously? If they release a skylake update for the rMBP in time for Christmas it will be a year later than the competition. This is lame even by Apple's standards. I can kind of get updates for the nMP being slow, but there's no excuse now. The hardware is available - E5 v4, TB3, USB-C, etc, etc

Apple this is just not good enough. Guess I'll be ordering that Dell laptop.
 
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"Now available on macOS, Metal System Trace offers deep insight into the graphics pipeline by profiling the interaction of the CPU and GPU, revealing performance optimization opportunities for Metal-based apps."

Is this Apple jargon for Async Computing? Improved tools for multi-core and multi-gpu programming?
 
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shaunp said:
No new hardware at all, seriously? If they release a skylake update for the rMBP in time for Christmas it will be a year later than the competition. This is lame even by Apple's standards. I can kind of get updates for the nMP being slow, but there's no excuse now. The hardware is available - E5 v4, TB3, USB-C, etc, etc

Apple this is just not good enough. Guess I'll be ordering that Dell laptop.
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6 month remain: iOS with iPhone 7, iPad and Apple Watch.
 
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Most exciting feature of the macOS was the new wallpaper. It looked nice. What operating systems are for, huh ?
 
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Actually if we think about this. People who bought Mac Pro right now might be able to extract all of its power from GPUs. All what was bottlenecking on graphics side was the lack of software. At least Apple finally have caught up. But that remains TBC, of course.
Zarniwoop said:
"Now available on macOS, Metal System Trace offers deep insight into the graphics pipeline by profiling the interaction of the CPU and GPU, revealing performance optimization opportunities for Metal-based apps."

Is this Apple jargon for Async Computing?
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No. It just shows draw calls and allows for direct and complex control over the rendering pipeline. Something that is very important for VR, and low-level approach for every high performance application.
 
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Well, that was a disappointment, but to be honest I'm not in the least bit surprised given the neglected state of the Mac lineup.

Guess I'lll start looking for a HP z640 after +20 years on a Mac. In all likelihood Apple will show something in the fall, but it will probably will be so backordered that it won't ship until the spring. That's another six months away and I have work to do. I've put off buying a new machine for months, but I'm out of time.

But at least they didn't show new watchbands.
 
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filmak

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A long long time ago in 2013 they have announcet the famous 6,1.

For this, unsalted finally, show we were all expecting something more, because the MP is a system suitable for developers.

I'm really afraid that there is no way back for Apple, only iPhones, iPads, iOS matters...
the new macOS, as it seems for now, is in low priority mode, as their hardware....
 
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koyoot said:
Actually if we think about this. People who bought Mac Pro right now might be able to extract all of its power from GPUs. All what was bottlenecking on graphics side was the lack of software. At least Apple finally have caught up. But that remains TBC, of course.

No. It just shows draw calls and allows for direct and complex control over the rendering pipeline. Something that is very important for VR, and low-level approach for every high performance application.
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You know you mentioned about software that can use dual gpu...and I agree with that...so in a way maybe 6,1 is actually good...it all on software developers.

As Phil said 6,1 may last for 10 years....maybe he meant it literally. Lol
 
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Its been three years hasn't it. I think given the track record, its hard to estimate a new window of time for an update
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I think Apple already dropped the Mac Pro a long time and keeps the same old model with the same old price on the website to sell whatever is left. Most Pros will resort to a Windows machine in the near future anyways with Windows being a lot more stable than it used to be.
 
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Hank Carter said:
Well, that was a disappointment, but to be honest I'm not in the least bit surprised given the neglected state of the Mac lineup.

Guess I'lll start looking for a HP z640 after +20 years on a Mac. In all likelihood Apple will show something in the fall, but it will probably will be so backordered that it won't ship until the spring. That's another six months away and I have work to do. I've put off buying a new machine for months, but I'm out of time.

But at least they didn't show new watchbands.
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We might be expecting another phones and iPads ...and watch
 
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