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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)

There will be few events in upcoming weeks. And there is a word, that AMD may show at least a tidbit of Vega working silicon.

The GPU is aimed at... HPC market.
 
Vega silicon is done, and finished. Right now it is in the process of... qualification. 3 months from launch by the looks of things. Other thing is will AMD do not hesitate for stacking the GPUs up like they did with Polaris.

To add to that, Taping out of Vega(according to reddit forum sources) already happened 5 months ago O_O. So it is still 3-4 months till wide availability for the market. Everything looks to be perfectly scheduled.

P.S. If you want to see a site that is strictly paid shill from Nvidia/Anti-AMD look no further than HardOCP. It is hilarious how journalist have embarrassed himself like Kyle did in last few weeks.
 
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Flint Ironstag said:
I disagree here - TB3 is absolutely a given, however, eGPU support is extremely interesting. Lots of workloads will benefit. For one instance, password auditing: the higher CPU core count, and the more GPUs I can stuff in an external enclosure the better. A 4 core iMac that will throttle due to thermal limitations after 3 minutes is doing me no good. A nMP with 12+ cores and a couple of boxes stuffed with 1080s is a different beast.
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That sounds great, but it doesn't sound very Apple-y. They wouldn't sell a box, then sell add-ons that insinuate the product itself isn't perfect for any and all tasks (especially not the Mac Pro!).

Only area that logic doesn't apply is with eGPU, but then Apple supporting this directly does confuse me.

Apple historically are careful not to let one product cannibalise another product line's sales. Ergo we have the product SKUs we have today;

  • Thin-and-light laptop (MacBook/MacBook Air)
  • Thicker, more powerful laptop (MacBook Pro)
  • Anaemic Desktop (Mac mini)
  • Mainstream Desktop (iMac)
  • Workstation (Mac Pro)
Now, currently for example, Apple sell their USB SuperDrive, but this only works (without editing com.apple.Boot.plist) on Macs that never shipped with a CD/DVD drive. I wonder if eGPU will be supported in a similar manner, ie, only active on machines Apple seems this is required.

eGPU in a Thunderbolt display for example might make sense with a Mac mini or a MacBook Air, but then you're cannibalising iMac sales. Standalone eGPU options could hit Mac Pro sales, or top end MacBook Pro sales. It's a tricky one.

Perhaps Apple might just enable more seamless eGPU functionality in OS X and leave it to other people to make TB3 enclosures etc.. but this also doesn't sound much like Apple.
 
Mago, look at the diagram.
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Both GbE controllers come straight out of the PCH, not the PEX.
 

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Both GbE controllers come straight out of the PCH, not the PEX.
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same they could wire it to the PEX, I'll check later maybe a reference from Aiden where the GbE is wired to the PEX, whatever its prefectly possible to wire it to the PEX and leave all 8 PCIe2 lines available for dual NVMe2, the other option should be worst either wire a single PCIE3 NVMe to the PEX sharing bandwidth and latency with TB3 and USB3.1, or taking 8 PCIe3 lines from GPU2 this could delete the PEX and allows a extra TB3 header, but then you have to Wire USB3.1 and GbEth to the PCH and back to the I/O Panel, and assume lower GPU2 performance due bottleneck.
 
Well it starts to fall into places, perfectly for AMD.

Want to know why they are launching Vega faster than it was previously scheduled? Because they want to bring their own gaming platform, together.

What is better way for it than combine high performance GPU with high performance CPU?

Funniest part of all this is that direct competitor for GTX 1080 will be... cut down small Vega GPU with HBM2.
 
koyoot said:
Well it starts to fall into places, perfectly for AMD.

Want to know why they are launching Vega faster than it was previously scheduled? Because they want to bring their own gaming platform, together.

What is better way for it than combine high performance GPU with high performance CPU?

Funniest part of all this is that direct competitor for GTX 1080 will be... cut down small Vega GPU with HBM2.
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RX Nano? Perhaps let's wait for the benchmark results. ;)

Hopefully this means Nvidia will drop their prices.. £620 is insane.
 
The only way for Nvidia to drop prices is competition. Doesn't look like AMD will have a solution for this for upcoming... 3-5 months.
 
If it goes out to 1,800 days like the monitor did, I doubt anyone will care if they update it or not.
 
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By that time, Phil may have come up with a new model. Slower, smaller and more restricted but it will come in platinum pink!
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It will give little more time for them to think about their Mac Pro design...maybe that satanic pentagon design. Anyone that turns that machine on will be sent to hell.
 
I'm hoping the killing of the Thunderbolt Display means there was a replacement meant to show at WWDC that is just running late...
 
goMac said:
I'm hoping the killing of the Thunderbolt Display means there was a replacement meant to show at WWDC that is just running late...
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Sure,
but the part makes me worrying is that about the third party monitors "There are a number of great third-party options available for Mac users," said an Apple spokesperson.

Did they meant "Go and buy something else..."?
 
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filmak said:
Sure,
but the part makes me worrying is that about the third party monitors "There are a number of great third-party options available for Mac users," said an Apple spokesperson.

Do they meant "Go and buy something else..."?
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"..while we avoid talking about our new 5K monitor which we can't release yet as only one product would support it, but with two cables which we'd ever do so.. watch this space!"
 
Apple's stance for TB discontinuation:
There are a number of great third-party options available for Mac users
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Yeah, well, I wonder for how many more of the rest of the apple products this starts to be true as well.
Computer business is going down fast, or what ?
 
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I'm hoping the killing of the Thunderbolt Display means there was a replacement meant to show at WWDC that is just running late...
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Nope, its over. Publicly cancelling a product and encouraging customers to a 3rd party alternatives is not the way to delay an update. They've been silent on the product for years, they could have continued for a few more months.

Mac Pro is next. If it wasn't they would have delayed this announcement until the 7,1 was ready.
 
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If the Thunderbolt display would be updated, they would not kill it.

Other thing is that Apple kills everything that is related to old technology. Maybe they are bringing something new?
 
Mac Pro - stalled.
Mac Mini - Stalled.
Macbook Pro - Stalled.
Macbook Air - Stalled.
Thunderbolt Display - killed.

Only two computers that have been updated past few years were iMac and Macbook.
 
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mw360 said:
Nope, its over. Publicly cancelling a product and encouraging customers to a 3rd party alternatives is not the way to delay an update. They've been silent on the product for years, they could have continued for a few more months.

Mac Pro is next. If it wasn't they would have delayed this announcement until the 7,1 was ready.
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YES YES YES.
Totally agreed.
I think this is a bad move and may lead to many other disappointing news.
(All coming with BIG EMOJI of course)
 
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