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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Apple would never make a very niche, unimportant to most, Mac Pro announcemt the centre of its WWDC artwork. So, no.
I hope this is the real deal....
If it’s a fake, it’s a realistic one. About the size of 8 stacked Mac Minis? That's what I imagined more or less. Maybe a little deeper, more rectangular.
I would love for it to be a rackmountable desktop size, but that feels unlikely.
In any event, I’m grabbing a big bag of popcorn and gonna watch this forum explode if there’s no announcement tomorrow.
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I hope this is the real deal....
The tiny led power indicator is in the EXACT same spot as on a new Space Grey Mac mini...
The plinth-style base is exactly the same as the Mac mini...
Apple would not do a promo image that was so 'off balance'...?
The black Apple logo on the front is actually slightly off center to the left, which by Apple standard is unacceptable.
But I would venture to say the actual product may look very close.
Yeah, I see that now...
Definitely a sign of a fake...!
And if it is a plinth base & top fans venting, that would mean the top venting was all the venting (unless Apple specs blower gpus), which would make it a dust-collecting negative pressure system...
So early days here at WWDC, security a bit on the iffy side, got a few minutes with the new MacPro, very minimalist design, weighs 0kgs, completely transparent, and will retail at $7999.00. Hundreds of people are signing up straight away.
Trashcan ][
Cascade lake Xeon upto 28 cores
Single GPU (vega 48, vega 64, mi50, mi60 (vega 20)
6 RAM slots
Dual SSD PCIe x4
6 USB 4
4 USB 3.2
1 HDMI
Dual 10G lan
600W thermal core 2
~ 1 inch taller
That's all, today thus Thread is officially dead, please someone start "waiting for Mac pro 8,1"
Cascade lake Xeon upto 28 cores
Single GPU (vega 48, vega 64, mi50, mi60 (vega 20)
6 RAM slots
Dual SSD PCIe x4
6 USB 4
4 USB 3.2
1 HDMI
Dual 10G lan
600W thermal core 2
~ 1 inch taller
That's all, today thus Thread is officially dead, please someone start "waiting for Mac pro 8,1"
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Am I the only one who finds it ironic that for all the complaints about Apple’s thermal “throttling” of the MacBook Pro, so many people in this forum thread think Apple can keep a 28-core CPU cooled in a slightly larger trash can than the nMP?
First off, it will never have a Nvidia. And even if they worked out some deal, it would never be a normal one because only quadros support 10 bit output. It will prob not be like a cheese grater prob a compromise.
The real problem isn't what people here thinks, is Apple actually believes this: 205W CPU + 350w GPU + dual 15W SSD + 45W chipset & others all this fit into 600W cooling TDP
Cascade Lake is slated for fall, that will probably slide into 2020...
And that 205W TDP is probably more like 350+ when loaded up...
The Radeon Instinct MI50 & MI60 cards are not designed for display...
Closest thing to either of those would be the Radeon VII, which is a modified MI50...
Excepting the Radeon VII, I doubt we will see anything else but Navi cards...
Six RAM slots, so get ready to throw six sticks of RAM in a drawer when you go for that cheaper third-party high capacity RAM...
No thanks, holding my breath for Threadripper 3... ;^p
It’s too early for your shenanigans. I haven’t had my coffee yet...peddle that stuff over at The Onion.
Questions are:
- How important is BootCamp for the target group, i.e. how much is it used in RL compared to the claims here in the forum?
- What is Apple‘s strategy here? I’m sure they’re not glad to have people run Windows software on a Mac, as that weakens the platform and undermines customer loyalty. So they may willingly accept loss of BootCamp, in order to motivate big companies to do proper ports (yes I’m fully aware that’s risky). For older and low-resource programs emulation could still be sufficient.
- What performance would multiple Ax cores with a proper cooling really have when running macOS (especially compared to current AMD/Intel offerings)? That information is not known outside Apple labs yet, but it’s crucial to properly evaluate the feasibility of an ARM transition and the actual performance level of „old school emulation“.
Not answering your questions, just commenting on them...
Apple could use some of their Scrooge McDuck coffers to partially fund the transition of major apps that matter, whatever defines that, no idea...
What I am hoping to see one day is clusters of ARM APUs all working together; but as we see with the increasing core count in cpus & apps not really utilizing all those cores/threads; it is going to take more work on the programming end to start utilizing these high core count cpus...
Browser doesn’t let me edit, so I’ll add a paragraph to my answer, bullet point 2, here: Of course loss of BootCamp would also be acceptable (for Apple) in order to motivate customers to request proper ports or get used to different software that is optimized for a different CPU platform (which in turn would help motivate companies to do proper ports - or create dedicated Mac-only software). So loss of BootCamp imho is no argument _against_ switching to ARM, but may instead even be an argument _for_ it.
Or... it strengthens the platform by allowing users an option to run software that they *need* but that isn't available on macOS, they can still stay in the Apple ecosystem and choose to use a Mac for day-to-day and only use Windows when needed. Seamless virtualisation or emulation would obviously be a better option though.
Otherwise these are users that would definitely buy a PC to run that software, and once they've bought one who knows where that leads...
Obviously the better option to capture/maintain those users is for there to be software with equal or better functionality on macOS to get them to switch, or if the same software is available on macOS, but as you say trying to persuade 3rd parties to do that is a risky gamble unless you have a solid user base to offer them.