Now that Catalina has been delivered, I expect the MP 7,1 pricing, at a minimum, to be released this week -- and maybe preorders.
::DISCLAIMER:: As usual, I may be wrong.
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Ther's tons of new hardware to be delivered shortly:
7.1 MacPro
Pro Display XDR
16''MacBookPro(?)
2.1 iMacPro(?)
2019 iPadPro(?)
I'm expecting a small "pro" event(late october/early november) covering all of that, with a focus on integration between all the new hardware, Catalina features, and new software like Photoshop for iOS and more. Of course I may be wrong too.
7.1 MacPro
Pro Display XDR
16''MacBookPro(?)
2.1 iMacPro(?)
2019 iPadPro(?)
I'm expecting a small "pro" event(late october/early november) covering all of that, with a focus on integration between all the new hardware, Catalina features, and new software like Photoshop for iOS and more. Of course I may be wrong too.
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Now THAT was an awful video... their sarcasm just comes across as really arrogant and pedantic. Obviously attempting to have a joke at Apple and it’s style. Apparently it’ll be an AMD thread ripper build in a ‘Doom Pro’ case that you see in the thumbnail, a blatant rip off of Apples design only just the sides remove.So the PCWorld premiere is clickbait, right?
Showing a picture of a Mac Pro video that is scheduled for premiere in 12 hours but then they will be showing a completely different system in the actual video?
Also it’ll have an RTX 2080 in it because ‘Pro’s’ care about ray tracing... yeah I think they’d buy a Quadro if that were the case.
So I can see this ending up being nothing more then a computer build, so they can make a video about how wonderful and more powerful it is for so much less money, and they will constantly belittle the Mac Pro, trolling Apple users all the way.. or click bait.
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IMO those mini movie trailers for the movie trailers were a clear indication marketing departments had, quite literally, totally run out of advertising ideas for the endless same old rehashed Hollywood movies..
EDIT: I see Jacobs Ladder, a great film, has now even been remade.. their isn’t a movie they won’t remake no matter how old or young it is.
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Now THATS the perfect case for a Hackintosh build ! A perfect blend of performance and style
Man, people just love to hate Apple, right?!
Still, everyone copies their designs and follow their leads, how come?
I believe one needs to come up with their own thing, own style, not just rip off someone else and call it a day. Anyway, copying is acknowledging something good, right?
But that was so low... honestly. Even the accent.
Still, everyone copies their designs and follow their leads, how come?
I believe one needs to come up with their own thing, own style, not just rip off someone else and call it a day. Anyway, copying is acknowledging something good, right?
But that was so low... honestly. Even the accent.
Now THATS the perfect case for a Hackintosh build ! A perfect blend of performance and style
IMO, if you are going to go the Hackintosh route, there's better options than going for the Apple clone case. Smaller too. Unless you really are going to fill out an ATX motherboard to the brim.
Maybe not everything is lost with the Mac pro GPGPU and interoperability.
Everybody knows Apple officially discontinued support for almost every open compute platform (openCL, CUDA-not open but common build in most popular HPC developments-, etc), metal is apple only.
Notwithstanding this, everything finds its way, opencompute community it's also alive, TL;DR; (compile opencl/SYCL to spir-v and then to metal's .airl, apple metal build using llvm it's IR can be mapped to spir-v this is what khronos does with moltenvk, but also khronos develop spirv-cross a tool to translate spir-v IR to many others IR,thus code compiled to spir-v should run where this IR is translated, while in many aspects still is WiP its very promising notwithstanding it could lack full performance as s true native implementation, given compute GPU use to be cheaper in Macs the final result could be economically competitive over native CUDA, there are many ROCm, alpha builds of TF-gpu from ROCm (originally targeting Linux)
Everybody knows Apple officially discontinued support for almost every open compute platform (openCL, CUDA-not open but common build in most popular HPC developments-, etc), metal is apple only.
Notwithstanding this, everything finds its way, opencompute community it's also alive, TL;DR; (compile opencl/SYCL to spir-v and then to metal's .airl, apple metal build using llvm it's IR can be mapped to spir-v this is what khronos does with moltenvk, but also khronos develop spirv-cross a tool to translate spir-v IR to many others IR,thus code compiled to spir-v should run where this IR is translated, while in many aspects still is WiP its very promising notwithstanding it could lack full performance as s true native implementation, given compute GPU use to be cheaper in Macs the final result could be economically competitive over native CUDA, there are many ROCm, alpha builds of TF-gpu from ROCm (originally targeting Linux)
Now that it is almost noon on Friday, it appears that Yes, I was wrong. Again.
However: given the new article on AppleInsider that appeared just this morning touting all the beauty and technology of the 2019 Mac Pro, it is getting very close and I think they may have a good idea of when. Why else write such a lengthy article four months after its introduction unless they know something we don't?
Perhaps next week, at least pricing and preorders?
In an earlier thread (here), I was impressed with how shiny the new mMP was, and how tempted I was to get one despite a lack of a clear "professional" need.
But now, with all these months of waiting since the reveal, on top of the years of waiting since the famous mea culpa, I've largely cooled off on the idea.
The wait is just grinding me down.
But now, with all these months of waiting since the reveal, on top of the years of waiting since the famous mea culpa, I've largely cooled off on the idea.
The wait is just grinding me down.
I'll wait a bit longer and that's it.......this release process on one computer is way to long with an introduction show 3 months ago (clapping seals) and waiting for pricing and actual release date....
If it doesn't get release within October then Ill waiting for year or two for a used one.
If it doesn't get release within October then Ill waiting for year or two for a used one.
And what a waste of life that was ... hours of force fiddling by those who clearly did no prep or had no clue .. could not be made to boot /poll. Then there were the Apple so-proclaimed 'genius' types next door who offered 'it just works!' [not]. Worst of both worlds: idiot PC builders & idiot smarmy Apple fanboys. I hope they do go back with just a little common sense and build the Threadripper, it isn't anywhere near as hard or stupid as posted in this awful movie.
Very likely aimed at the upcoming MacBook Pros. It would be a good fit.
Could also slot in as a 580 replacement on the Mac Pro, but I doubt they'd make that change this late in the game when most buyers who care about the GPU will move to the 7 nm Vega offering, which is still better than any Navi GPU.
Yep, maybe for just 200$ you can go from 580X to the navi
i mean 580X,really Apple..they could fit Vega 48 from the normal imac as default at least
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Support has been added for the AMD Navi RDNA architecture. For more information see Use an external graphics processor with your Mac.
That’s excellent news, shame about all the bugs it has, like deleting your emails..
Why? Because the information vacuum is ripe click bait... more ads views , more money. Throw out an "aggrieved Mac Pro users " article and watch the clicks roll in as word spreads. Apple said "Fall" so early October is definitely Fall ( Oktoberfest , Halloween candy out in stores , harvesting starting, etc. ). Apple has relatively consistent track record of doing something in October for Macs ( not every year but most years over the last 10 ).
Know something we don't
".. In addition to the SSD storage accessed via slots in its face next to the fans, ... "
Maybe not. Those are air input vents, not drive slots. The cover comes off that portion of the 'underside' logical board and the drives are accessed that way. [ Tech specs page denotes the drives are mounted vertical. Same if zoom in on AR model and look into the air vents. ]
which NAVI.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14949/amd-announces-radeon-rx-5500-series-for-desktop-and-mobile
Navi goes 'down range' ( Navi 14 ) as much as 'up range' ( Navi 10).
Apple may cover both but the Navi14's 5 DisplayPort stream limit will work for a laptop ( 4 out Thunderbolt and built in display ).
For a MBP though the GDDR6 memory consumes more space than the HBM2 does. It is a tradeoff Apple may make though, but that isn't particularly where they want to go long term.
Eventually, Apple should come up with another card, but at the moment they need to ship more so than throw yet another delay on top. For the cards work as eGPU most likely some subset will work as cards in the new Mac Pro Apple doesn't have to bundle with the system.
I hope they replace the 580 (not a big design change at all). They do need an entry-level GPU option, primarily for people who'll use their Mac Pros for music production and the like - but something newer would be nice, if for nothing more than supporting newer display standards - that old card can't be HDMI 2.0, can it? Something like a Vega 48 or 56, or equivalent Navi Radeon 5700 would work... . A Vega 56 goes for $300 (retail), while a Navi-based Radeon 5700 is in the upper $300s. Does a Vega 48 standalone card exist? I couldn't find one on Newegg. The old RX580 is a $200 card, so the difference at Appe's volume is probably $30-$50. Come on Apple, just throw it in (and take it out of margin instead of raising the price), you've got the driver from the iMac line...
It would be a smart move on Apple's part to select a base GPU that has HDMI 2.0 or better. That said, IIRC, aren't they routing all the display signals back through the mobo to dedicated ports? If so, they will likely stay with the 580X...
The 580 is HDMI 2.0.
Feeling I got with the 580 is that Apple wanted a cheaper option for supplying the onboard Thunderbolt ports with video for people who want to add their own PC Card. If you’re bringing your own generic card, just need something basic to keep the Thunderbolt video out working.
It’s not Radeon 560 basic, but seems tailored for that crowd, or for those with basic GPU requirements.
A thread that dates back around a year.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/native-hdmi-2-0-support-on-rx580.2129711/
Not all.
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AMD Radeon Pro 580X
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Two HDMI 2.0 ports on card
Four DisplayPort connections routed to system to support internal Thunderbolt 3 ports
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Mac Pro - Technical Specifications
See all the technical specifications for Mac Pro with the M2 Ultra chip.
www.apple.com
So can drive 6 screens max.
The Vega II 'solo' only feeds back two streams ( so two of the standard TBv3 ports under provisioned, but the ones on the card are. So just a matter of where connect the cable. ). Still 6 screens max.
( Vega II duo can drive up to 8 screens max. )
The other significant issue is that the 580x card is that it is a "half MPX width" card. A 5700XT actually runs hotter. The 5700 isn't that much lower ( not particularly buying anything much on this dimension. ). Being "half width" leaves another slot open in the MPX bay.
The 580x is also likely more affordable than any Vega ( or Navi 10 based solution for that matter) . The whole point of an "entry" card is not to drive the expense relatively higher. Finally, it was also working (already had macOS drivers so should have a relatively easy development time so Apple could sink far more time into GPUs with Inifinity Band ... which they haven't supported in the past (e.g. SLI/Crossfire). )