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I’m not expecting any news until tomorrow when the trip to Apple campus begins, in the afternoon. Still holding out for an afternoon press release with release and pricing info.

I dunno, would they really bury their news on a Friday? Even if that's when the trip is it seems weird.
 
I dunno, would they really bury their news on a Friday? Even if that's when the trip is it seems weird.

Would Apple really be a good partner if they "stomp" all over the event? The primary focus of the even is about FCPX ; not the Mac Pro. There are sessions to go to and folks to talk to about primarily FPCX issues. Friday afternoon , Apple could provide a somewhat tangent topic to break up the more focused discussion.

The iMac Pro was yet another "demo" time before the shipments started too at the same event.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/30/photos-imac-pro-space-gray-mouse-keyboard/


If all Apple is going to reveal is prices (or just which day pre-orders will start). and not start shipping then Friday is as good a day as any other. Actually, Friday afternoon is often a low productivity time anyway where lots of folks are looking to wrap up early for the weekend. Gawking at the Mac Pro would be a good excuse to not do much.
 
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Would Apple really be a good partner if they "stomp" all over the event? The primary focus of the even is about FCPX ; not the Mac Pro. There are sessions to go to and folks to talk to about primarily FPCX issues. Friday afternoon , Apple could provide a somewhat tangent topic to break up the more focused discussion.

The iMac Pro was yet another "demo" time before the shipments started too at the same event.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/30/photos-imac-pro-space-gray-mouse-keyboard/


If all Apple is going to reveal is prices (or just which day pre-orders will start). and not start shipping then Friday is as good a day as any other. Actually, Friday afternoon is often a low productivity time anyway where lots of folks are looking to wrap up early for the weekend. Gawking at the Mac Pro would be a good excuse to not do much.

And since undoubtably there will be people with sticker shock (plenty who were never going to purchase anyway as well as some who would have) burying on a Friday could be good.
 
256GB of PCIe M.2 SSD Storage
That’s interesting. I wonder if it’s accurate though.

The M.2 part? It is not accurate. The whole rest of that spec listing is pulled from Apple's Mac Pro specs page. The 'M.2' is someone at B&H ad-libbing. It is extremely likely the same "NAND Blade" design used by the iMac Pro in conjunction with the T2. It is shaped like M.2, it isn't a standard M.2 implementation.
 
And since undoubtably there will be people with sticker shock (plenty who were never going to purchase anyway as well as some who would have) burying on a Friday could be good.

Folks at the FCPX are probably in a substantially different demographic (hard core FCPX users ). A hefty portion probably will buy one. The Mac Pro's bigger problem is outside of hardcore , high end FCPX, Motion, and LogicX folks how many of those folks are left.

Nvidia and Adobe dropped 12% faster drivers earlier in the week. And Apple is struggling with a price list release. Apple is going to loose folks on execution effectiveness as much as prices.
 
Folks at the FCPX are probably in a substantially different demographic (hard core FCPX users ). A hefty portion probably will buy one. The Mac Pro's bigger problem is outside of hardcore , high end FCPX, Motion, and LogicX folks how many of those folks are left.

Nvidia and Adobe dropped 12% faster drivers earlier in the week. And Apple is struggling with a price list release. Apple is going to loose folks on execution effectiveness as much as prices.

I was referring to the forum members here after pricing is announced. Those of us who use machines in professional capacities will understand the value prop or if it is insufficient for our specific circumstances we'll just select something else, no whining needed :)
 
The only way legitimate info is being released at this event is if Apple decides to demo features in upcoming builds of FCPX, or decides to show off additional functionality of Afterburner within FCPX or multiple GPU acceleration workflows. Little to no reason to whip out an MP7,1 for any other reason, or even discuss the MP7,1 for that matter. Apple will not bring a demo unit into the "public space" at the visitor center unless it's basically on lockdown (like they were at WWDC). The event organizers are doing a disservice to those attending if they are promising anything more.
 
.... Apple will not bring a demo unit into the "public space" at the visitor center unless it's basically on lockdown (like they were at WWDC). The event organizers are doing a disservice to those attending if they are promising anything more.

the Mac Pro passed it FCC certification. It can't be (or at least extremely should not be ) in the rigged demo state at this point. ( the iMac Pro passed Nov 20, 2017 and released in December.). The "fashion show" demo that Apple did of the iMac Pro was end of October.

But still at the stage can't operate the canned rigged demo material ... that would be specularly lame at this point. Apple probably hasn't made enough to sell. But it should be past the so fragile can't blow on it stage in terms of macOS readiness.

If Apple throws up the pre-order BTO info there is even less reason not to. There may not be enough units , time, and/or space to left everyone at the conference have a turn. So perhaps Apple operator takes a few requests on the demo material script guideline. But at this point if it just a fashion show ( look and take pics with your iPhone and simply just marvel at its beauty) then that is more than a bit lame.
 
I dunno, would they really bury their news on a Friday? Even if that's when the trip is it seems weird.
I don’t think they’d be burying anything. Like others have said this is their demographic (apart from big studios that have already left for actual workstations after the mess of the 6,1). This would be a great opportunity to reach out to the FCPX communities and really show off what it can do and get some positive response-most likely offering pricing and customization options, then offer pre-order dates or sale dates. If Apple is really going to release a 16” before the end of the year I am of the opinion that they will do that tomorrow as well.


I think it would be smart for them to have some good FCPX outreach and demo for reviews and likely buyers feeling special about it-consider it a “soft launch”.
 
Let's be really honest here - iMac Pro was built with the well-oiled machine assembly line, not the Austin facility that was held up by issues with screws. Who knows what snags they might have run into in Texas this time around. Reportedly assembly was moved there "late" in the game and had initially been planned for the usual locations, but thanks to tariffs...

Wouldn't get hopes up for exclusive info at this event, but guess we'll see in a few days.
 
Financing details for MP7,1 have not been announced at this time. They are not even disclosing their Business financing details. My several inquiries with CIT were told to ask local Apple retail location business team. Apple retail location business teams are not sure what offers MIGHT be available.
 
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Let's be really honest here - iMac Pro was built with the well-oiled machine assembly line, not the Austin facility that was held up by issues with screws. Who knows what snags they might have run into in Texas this time around. Reportedly assembly was moved there "late" in the game and had initially been planned for the usual locations, but thanks to tariffs...

Wouldn't get hopes up for exclusive info at this event, but guess we'll see in a few days.

Flex is a major contract manufacturer, despite the "screw-gate" thing however many years ago they are very well respected in the industry (full disclosure, I do business with Flex). They are more than capable of coming up to speed very rapidly and cranking out inventory numbers.

Regarding moving production "late", Tim Cook announced back in late September that production would be handled by Flex and happen "soon". I am not able to say anything more on that but I can recommend you take him at his word. Infer from that as you will :)
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Financing details for MP7,1 have not been announced at this time. They are not even disclosing their Business financing details. My several inquiries with CIT were told to ask local Apple retail location business team. Apple retail location business teams are not sure what offers MIGHT be available.

Yeah, my retail business account manager knows less than we do at this time 😄 You can tell them what you think you're going to spend on them (they have no clue as to whether your guess at Mac Pro pricing is anywhere near accurate) and they'll quote generic lease terms through their financing partnership.
 
10k for a decent setup
Yep, I think this will be the range. Lots of dough. I wish the base model had better specs like at least 1tb storage and 64gb RAM. For $6k, that would be the right start point, but we know Apple....
Add the XDR display to the set up....ouch!
 
I'm planning on using the Barclays Card financing to get 18 months to pay it off, interest free. Does the Apple card have the same offer????
No. That’s barclays differentiator right now. Apple Card just agreed doing that with the iPhone though
 
... Does the Apple card have the same offer????

Does the Apple Card credit lines generally even go that high (i.e., non entry Mac Pro range) ?

Saw an article that Goldman Sachs said outstanding balances at end of Sept were ~$800M. If 800K have the card that is an average balance of $1,000. The Apple Card has no fees probably in part because they aren't handing out gigantic lines of credit.

Apple announced a program to buy iPhones ( sub 1,500 range ) on the cards interest free. Once get to loans in the $8-10+ K range that is lots of money to pay with no fees coming in to cover it (and under market rates on other purchases.).

I think the Apple Card is more so gear at folks with day to day regular purchases. The no fee but can be data mined makes sense in that context.
 
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MP7,1 will have two coin batteries according to this document that was just sent to me:

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Does the Apple Card credit lines generally even go that high (i.e., non entry Mac Pro range) ?

Saw an article that Goldman Sachs said outstanding balances at end of Sept were ~$800M. If 800K have the card that is an average balance of $1,000. The Apple Card has no fees probably in part because they aren't handing out gigantic lines of credit.

Apple announced a program to buy iPhones ( sub 1,500 range ) on the cards interest free. Once get to loans in the $8-10+ K range that is lots of money to pay with no fees coming in to cover it (and under market rates on other purchases.).

I think the Apple Card is more so gear at folks with day to day regular purchases. The no fee but can be data mined makes sense in that context.


I could put anything but the very highest numbers I've seen speculated on my Apple Card. $8-10k I could put a few on (without the XDRs to go with them). So yeah, totally possible for people to use their Apple Card for the purchase. I don't think (I would hope) that most people have their cards maxed, $1k or so on average seems normal for random things you'd pay off at the end of the period.
 
Does the Apple Card credit lines generally even go that high (i.e., non entry Mac Pro range) ?

Saw an article that Goldman Sachs said outstanding balances at end of Sept were ~$800M. If 800K have the card that is an average balance of $1,000. The Apple Card has no fees probably in part because they aren't handing out gigantic lines of credit.

Apple announced a program to buy iPhones ( sub 1,500 range ) on the cards interest free. Once get to loans in the $8-10+ K range that is lots of money to pay with no fees coming in to cover it (and under market rates on other purchases.).

I think the Apple Card is more so gear at folks with day to day regular purchases. The no fee but can be data mined makes sense in that context.
With the very high prices of MP and XDR, having the ability to pay over time with 0% would be a nice perk. I am not sure Apple will expand this benefit to the Apple Card. If they do give to folks that can qualify and the cashback option, that will make the card a heck of a deal and a must-have IMO.
 
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