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It will hopefully show what dirty tatics Apple do by prefrence. People need to know these things and Apple are being arses about this.

Hrm - The only arsey thing about it really is that the reseller has not been advised that the product will not ship until a certain date after Apple has fulfilled a sufficient amount of their own orders.
In reality a manufacturer+supplier like Apple can pretty much choose it's own distribution methods and time frames, in fact thats pretty much same for most manufacturers+suppliers.

Whether or not they choose to inform resellers that they won't be getting their supply until a certain point or after a number of Apple orders are filled is their (Apple) responsibility.

That doesn't make the current situation any better, but I'm sure that if the consumer was sold the product with the estimated shipping time being properly disclosed then the issue wouldn't be as big (some people would hang on to that interest free, blah blah, others would not follow through and buy direct from Apple).


Once again, that doesn't really make the current situation any better for anyone stuck in your position.
 
After seeing that someone else had got DJ's to match Myers 10% discount today.

I spoke to someone at DJ's and got them to match the Myers 10% on a stock i5 with the no deposit 48 months interest free deal, because I had been waiting over a month with no firm ETA in site.
 
It will hopefully show what dirty tatics Apple do by prefrence. People need to know these things and Apple are being arses about this.

As someone else pointed out though this would work in Apple's FAVOUR! If more people hear of our plight they will instead go to Apple DIRECTLY to avoid long delays thus achieving exactly what Apple is trying to do in the first place!...sell them directly themselves and keep 100% of the profits.....good arrangement isn't it? The resellers need your product to survive and you'll make even more money if you withhold it from them and sell it yourself until the hype dies down.
 
good point, thanks for the realignment :)

It just frustrates me when Apple tells me that it is something that DJ's buyers needs to deal with the apple Reseller partner channel, and neither is accessible to me to give information.

It would be reassuring to hear from DJ's buyers to hear that they are doing what they can, or acknowledge that they are being constrained by apple, but at this point in time i dont think that the DJ's buyers are aware that the machines are being shipped to online customers, and still think that no machines are being shipped, and that they are still at the top of the list for a delivery.

A simple phone call or email with a estimated shipping date would be nice too.

Hi Guys,

I work for David Jones in a related department (not buying) with close ties to both the DJs buyers and Apple's liaisons.

Firstly, Dronus I can understand your frustration but DJs is 100% completely powerless to do anymore than what they are doing, I'm not going to go into details of the DJs ordering system but Apple essentially tells us when we can and can't place stock orders.

I think you are forgetting that the buyers are employed by DJ's to manage the company's supply and demand of products and to deal with scenarios exactly like this, they are doing the best job they can, their yearly bonuses are at stake. :)

At the end of the day David Jones, Myer, JB HiFi are Mass Merchants which sit slightly under Premium Resellers in the pecking order followed by Apple's direct channels.

If someone has only paid a deposit, personally I would request a refund and purchase it online.
If you have taken advantage of a 48 months interest free offer through DJs I would suggest hanging on, I highly doubt we will be offering something nearly as good any time soon. We are expecting an initial shipment of units mid December, this may meet some of the suburban store's back orders, but most city stores won't have their demand met from that one order.

I am happy to look up any DJs order numbers for concerned parties, keep in mind it only tells me if the order has arrived into DJs not as to it's status or whereabouts outside of the store.

If anyone has any questions and is sick of waiting 30 minutes leading up to xmas to speak to someone on the phone you can ask me here.

Most importantly, remember DJs is in the same boat as you guys are, we have no more news and Apple can't give us any specifics.
 
Hi Guys,

I am happy to look up any DJs order numbers for concerned parties, keep in mind it only tells me if the order has arrived into DJs not as to it's status or whereabouts outside of the store.

If anyone has any questions and is sick of waiting 30 minutes leading up to xmas to speak to someone on the phone you can ask me here.

Most importantly, remember DJs is in the same boat as you guys are, we have no more news and Apple can't give us any specifics.

Hi,

DJ's Order Number; C073xxx, ordered an i5 from DJ's Melbourne store, day the release announcement came from apple. You mentioned a backorder possibly arriving this month, what are my chances of getting my order?

Thanks
 
Thanks for taking the time to inform us.

Mine is a stock i5 ordered at Brisbane Queens Plaza store, and becuase it was standard and not BTO I was told that it didn't have a seperate order number, I was just in the queue to be allocated when stock arrives, but was assured I would be in the first batch.
 
Update on my damaged in transit iMac 27 i7..

looks like its going back to China. not many iMacs get a round trip ticket :D

03 Dec 2009 07:10:00 Sydney Shipment Returned To Origin. Follow Up Actions Underway.
01 Dec 2009 05:37:31 Sydney Shipment Held In Warehouse. Follow Up Actions Underway.
 
Hi,

DJ's Order Number; C073xxx, ordered an i5 from DJ's Melbourne store, day the release announcement came from apple. You mentioned a backorder possibly arriving this month, what are my chances of getting my order?

Thanks

Is your unit a BTO or just the basic i5 Quad?

If it is a BTO the order has already been sent to Apple and the pressure is being placed on the necessary account managers at Apple to push the stock through the constraint, unfortunately they aren't having much luck either, though I still predict that a BTO unit will arrive earlier than the basic stock.

If it is a basic Quad i5 with no configuration changes and you ordered it on Day ONE then I'm assuming you will receive it in the first batch, the main thing to do is to contact the Apple Solutions Consultant (ASC) of the store or the Sales Assistant who put it through for you and make sure that they will put it aside for you as soon as the stock arrives.

I'm sure they are on the ball but they are under a lot of pressure at the moment from customers and from Christmas shoppers so it's a good idea to just say hi and remind them :)
 
Thanks for taking the time to inform us.

Mine is a stock i5 ordered at Brisbane Queens Plaza store, and becuase it was standard and not BTO I was told that it didn't have a seperate order number, I was just in the queue to be allocated when stock arrives, but was assured I would be in the first batch.

I'm quite informed re: QP Store ;)

If someone assured you that you would be in the first batch it sounds promising, again there are no 100%s when dealing with Apple, but it sounds like you are in the top 5 orders, one question though... have you paid for the unit yet?
 
Is your unit a BTO or just the basic i5 Quad?

If it is a BTO the order has already been sent to Apple and the pressure is being placed on the necessary account managers at Apple to push the stock through the constraint, unfortunately they aren't having much luck either, though I still predict that a BTO unit will arrive earlier than the basic stock.

If it is a basic Quad i5 with no configuration changes and you ordered it on Day ONE then I'm assuming you will receive it in the first batch, the main thing to do is to contact the Apple Solutions Consultant (ASC) of the store or the Sales Assistant who put it through for you and make sure that they will put it aside for you as soon as the stock arrives.

I'm sure they are on the ball but they are under a lot of pressure at the moment from customers and from Christmas shoppers so it's a good idea to just say hi and remind them :)

Hey,

Thanks for the reply.

Not sure about the BTO, I chose the full size wired keyboard, and added a remote, but nothing that is internal to the machine is different, so whether or not that is classed as BTO I have no idea.

Completely understand that this is apples issue not DJ's, so am understanding of your position.

I have been dropping in every couple of weeks to get an update, so they are well aware of me, and have promised me repeatedly they will contact me asap. They have been very helpfull with the minimal info they have

Cheers
 
I just spoke to Apple to ask when my CTO i7 will be shipping. They said none of them are shipping until January.

Well my i7 (only change was changing the keyboard to a wired one with numpad) that I ordered on Friday 27/11 has just changed to 'Prepared To Ship' in the last few hours.
So not sure why Apple would be telling you that none are shipping until Jan 10 :confused:
I guess it depends who you talk to!
 
Hey,

Thanks for the reply.

Not sure about the BTO, I chose the full size wired keyboard, and added a remote, but nothing that is internal to the machine is different, so whether or not that is classed as BTO I have no idea.

Completely understand that this is apples issue not DJ's, so am understanding of your position.

I have been dropping in every couple of weeks to get an update, so they are well aware of me, and have promised me repeatedly they will contact me asap. They have been very helpfull with the minimal info they have

Cheers

Yes that Unit is a BTO, I would speak to your ASC and ask him for the Apple reference number (w5xxxxxx etc).

Even though you ordered the goods through DJs, that Apple order number will allow you to go to www.apple.com/au/store and down the bottom of the page there is a track status of order, you can enter the order number and the post code of the store and it will tell you whether the goods have shipped or arrived in store or still in processing etc.
 
Yes that Unit is a BTO, I would speak to your ASC and ask him for the Apple reference number (w5xxxxxx etc).

Even though you ordered the goods through DJs, that Apple order number will allow you to go to www.apple.com/au/store and down the bottom of the page there is a track status of order, you can enter the order number and the post code of the store and it will tell you whether the goods have shipped or arrived in store or still in processing etc.

Hi Miranda,

Thank you for all your information.
I have just been reading the latest "gossip" that the i5/i7 iMac's are actually being delayed until Mid January now. Is this true?
Thank you for any further info..

See link below-

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1330974&p=-1#bottom
 
Well my i7 (only change was changing the keyboard to a wired one with numpad) that I ordered on Friday 27/11 has just changed to 'Prepared To Ship' in the last few hours.
So not sure why Apple would be telling you that none are shipping until Jan 10 :confused:
I guess it depends who you talk to!

I should have added that I called the reseller line (mine is from JB HiFi)
 
Hi Guys,

I work for David Jones in a related department (not buying) with close ties to both the DJs buyers and Apple's liaisons.

Firstly, Dronus I can understand your frustration but DJs is 100% completely powerless to do anymore than what they are doing, I'm not going to go into details of the DJs ordering system but Apple essentially tells us when we can and can't place stock orders.

I think you are forgetting that the buyers are employed by DJ's to manage the company's supply and demand of products and to deal with scenarios exactly like this, they are doing the best job they can, their yearly bonuses are at stake. :)

At the end of the day David Jones, Myer, JB HiFi are Mass Merchants which sit slightly under Premium Resellers in the pecking order followed by Apple's direct channels.

If someone has only paid a deposit, personally I would request a refund and purchase it online.
If you have taken advantage of a 48 months interest free offer through DJs I would suggest hanging on, I highly doubt we will be offering something nearly as good any time soon. We are expecting an initial shipment of units mid December, this may meet some of the suburban store's back orders, but most city stores won't have their demand met from that one order.

I am happy to look up any DJs order numbers for concerned parties, keep in mind it only tells me if the order has arrived into DJs not as to it's status or whereabouts outside of the store.

If anyone has any questions and is sick of waiting 30 minutes leading up to xmas to speak to someone on the phone you can ask me here.

Most importantly, remember DJs is in the same boat as you guys are, we have no more news and Apple can't give us any specifics.

Hi Miranda....

Thanks very much for taking the time to respond to the posts.....

you mentioned you would check to see if our orders are going to be filled from the received stock, could you please clarify, I have the following Numbers an Wnnnnn Apple Web order Number, 712nnnnn Sales Ref Number and a C00nnn Number obtained from apple?? which of these would I need to provide you to enable tracking, thanks very much...

Has it been confirmed that the received stock includes I7's? or only I5 etc?
 
Well I just went to my DJ store and cancelled my order (sorry DJ's).

What made me do this is I have had enough of Apple and they way they do not communicate with anyone (including there own staff) and how they are not supporting there resellers. If they can't support the resellers I say they can't support me.

While I was in the store the Apple rep for that area of Brisbane was in the store. He did not speak to me but (what was bad I thought) said to one of the DJ guys what Apple have told him and that they should come in about 2 weeks and that if I was not happy with that to cancel my order and re-order with Apple directly as this may came through quicker. I can't believe I heard him say this to the DJ's guy (I guess he was honest :) ).

Anyway I just want to say that my experiance with DJ's has been very good and I am more then happy with there end of the bargin. Apple on the other hand is another story all together.

And no I am not going to go and order a Mac now through Apple themselves (as this is what they want), I am going Apple free! :)
 
I'm quite informed re: QP Store ;)

If someone assured you that you would be in the first batch it sounds promising, again there are no 100%s when dealing with Apple, but it sounds like you are in the top 5 orders, one question though... have you paid for the unit yet?

They have my store card details for the 48 months interest free, and mentioned that I may have to make a payment before it arrives.
Although it didn't show up on my statement a couple of days ago,
only the 27" C2D

Oh and say hi to megan.gale for me ;)
 
Hi Guys,

I work for David Jones in a related department (not buying) with close ties to both the DJs buyers and Apple's liaisons.

Firstly, Dronus I can understand your frustration but DJs is 100% completely powerless to do anymore than what they are doing, I'm not going to go into details of the DJs ordering system but Apple essentially tells us when we can and can't place stock orders.

Hi Miranda,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to the forum.
Could you please expand on DJs is 100% completely powerless to do anymore than what they are doing Are they aware that there is no shortage of CPU's or video cards as they are being told? Are they actively pushing apple to get the orders shipped?

While I understand that DJ's might be doing all they can, communication is the key here. By reading this thread you would have seen the frustration of customers who see online orders get filled straight away while we wait. While i understand that the online orders would take financial priority as far as Apple is concerned, telling DJ's customers that their order is not shipping due to a lack of CPU's or Video cards is deceiving. I dont understand how Apple can tell a reseller when it can place orders, that doesn't make sence; sure the order might not be filled straight away, but an ETA can be given to the customer to reassure them.

I think you are forgetting that the buyers are employed by DJ's to manage the company's supply and demand of products and to deal with scenarios exactly like this, they are doing the best job they can, their yearly bonuses are at stake. :)

Not meaning to sound rude, but Apple seem to have disrupted the best made plans of mice and men here. Would you agree that by Apple constraining retailers orders and feeding them misinformation about the staus of the orders isn't ideal? I understand the role of buyers, as i deal with them in my day job.

At the end of the day David Jones, Myer, JB HiFi are Mass Merchants which sit slightly under Premium Resellers in the pecking order followed by Apple's direct channels.

These stores (as mentioned above) have dedicated buyers and account managers. I would have thought that they would have 'buying power' and would be able to negotiate at least the production of the pre-order stock for the customers. This seems like an advantage of having account managers and buyers. Apple should be monopolising on this, not retarding it.

Surely now that online orders are shipping in some cases withing 48 hours there is capability to fill retail orders. We keep hearing that the shipping time is slipping to the right, so it begs to ask the question: What are the buyers and account managers doing to push for our orders to be filled? Maybe an email update or phone call to the customers would provide assurance? Are they still being told that the orders are not being placed due to a lack of parts?

If someone has only paid a deposit, personally I would request a refund and purchase it online.
If you have taken advantage of a 48 months interest free offer through DJs I would suggest hanging on, I highly doubt we will be offering something nearly as good any time soon. We are expecting an initial shipment of units mid December, this may meet some of the suburban store's back orders, but most city stores won't have their demand met from that one order.

I personally would encourage people to hang in there unless there is a critical need for the computer. Supporting stores like yours is very important; local jobs for the people working there, logistics such as truck drivers, storepeople, surrounding and feeding businesses. Where possible, no matter how small the commission is, Aussies should look out for each other and shop locally. I know a few people in retail, its a hard enough job as it is let alone the fear of losing jobs.
Does 'demand' mean customer orders, or warehouse stock? In Adelaide, does Suburban mean stores like Marion and West Lakes, and City mean the city store? Hopefully most orders will be filled, well, at least mine :)

I am happy to look up any DJs order numbers for concerned parties, keep in mind it only tells me if the order has arrived into DJs not as to it's status or whereabouts outside of the store.

If anyone has any questions and is sick of waiting 30 minutes leading up to xmas to speak to someone on the phone you can ask me here.

Excellent, im sure lots of people will take you up on that :)... Im also hoping the rep will call me as soon as it arrives.

Most importantly, remember DJs is in the same boat as you guys are, we have no more news and Apple can't give us any specifics.

Apple should be giving DJ's specifics. If one of my suppliers at work wouldn't give me specifics on manufacturing or shipping for a product there would be repercussions. Firstly would be to explore the legal options. Secondly would be to ditch the supplier. Unfortunately there is only one place to get Apple products, but they should be treating DJ's with more respect than just saying "we dont know". Someone knows, or someone is not managing their accounts properly.

Thanks for replying to the posts and providing a face for DJ's here, im sure everyone appreciates it. i also apologise for any emotion that may have crept into this post, but i am confident that given the correct information and persuasion the right outcome will eventuate for everyone. I have had to purchase a second computer while im waiting for the imac as I could not wait any longer, but im hanging in there until my order is shipped aswell.
 
Just ordered mine online.

i7 with 2Tb hard drive and 4GB of RAM and the Remote Control. I'm going to purchase another 8GB of RAM from MacRam.

The shiping status it's saying it will be shipped on the 16th and delivered on the 22nd. There pushing the claim on the website of 7 to 10 working days a bit, but none the less if all goes to plan Santa can deliver it early.

The one bright spot is that the Remote Control will be delivered tomorrow, how good's that :)
 
still waiting on mine from maccentre in sydney, cant give me anything close to a date either, considering cancelling it and ordering by phone
 
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