I think you'll get a 14 inch MBP at WWDC but I'd say 50/50 wether it's arm or not. It doesn't feel like things are ready on fat software side to do that.
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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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I’m hoping the 13th since Memorial Day holiday will be on the Monday following the 20th.
I bought a 5k monitor the other day with the plan to use it on the new macbook that gets released... what sucks is i'm still using my supped up 2012 macbook pro that is going strong... but the 5k monitor doesn't support it! BLAH. Lets get this new macbook released already. Waiting a long time for it!
Need an update!!!! My 2012 pro is starting to struggle. Hoping for an update on the 16inch as well on the 13th
Things can get pretty heavy when you cycle a lot. I used to haul half a gallon(1.85L) bottle with me for a 7 hour trip of non-stop cycling. On my way back, after 4 hours of cycling, i was feeling how every gram of water was hurting my back. I had to drink it, so the weight went down from 2lbs to 1lbs. And that was such a relief!
So weight difference between 13 vs 16 will be noticeable if you will haul it around 4+ hours non-stop - walking or cycling.
Otherwise, weight difference is negligible, especially if we think of laptops from 2011 or 2015 designs, which were much bulkier.
Thoughts on the following article, titled:
'3DMark confirms 28 W processor for next MacBook Pro; up to 32 GB of RAM and a 4 TB SSD too, but no Ryzen 4000 Renoir options'
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'3DMark confirms 28 W processor for next MacBook Pro; up to 32 GB of RAM and a 4 TB SSD too, but no Ryzen 4000 Renoir options'
3DMark confirms 28 W processor for next MacBook Pro; up to 32 GB of RAM and a 4 TB SSD too, but no Ryzen 4000 Renoir options
Expected to drop before WWDC 2020, the next smaller MacBook Pro has been said to be making the switch to 14-inch displays. Apple's new Magic Keyboard also seems a likely upgrade, and now 3DMark has confirmed that Apple will offer up to 32 GB of RAM and a 4 TB SSD. The MacBook Pro 2020 will have...
I have the same feeling about the portability. If not that I dont think I even would wait for new 13/14inch. But if the price will be similar for similar specs, then it just will not make sense to get the new 13/14 where with 16 u will get bigger screen and dedicated gpu for the same price.
the rumours (rumors) swirl around. I gave up waiting and bought a 2020 MBA because I have been using a 2015 MBA with Xcode for months (due to Apple retiring my MBP, no Catalina) and it's been fine. I'm more concerned about what happens if they move Mac to ARM chips. Apple will need to be very well prepared or it will be a total pain.
The MBP is expected before WWDC, and I think there is no chance the ARM machine at WWDC will be another MBP.
Do you guys think they will actually present an ARM macbook at WWDC? I just figured they would announce plans and a strategy more than an actual product. If they already have one (or more) models ready, wouldn’t we have had more leaks about it from developers?
Either way, I hope we get a 14” MBP very soon. I am SO done with the Lenovo I have borrowed as a temporary replacement.
Either way, I hope we get a 14” MBP very soon. I am SO done with the Lenovo I have borrowed as a temporary replacement.
Don't know how much to read into things, but the 2015 MBP was launched on Tuesday 19th May, the 2019 Tuesday 21st May, so Tuesday 19th May 2020 would also be well precedented if that's how it works...
Most likely to be a developer machine if they do, and even that seems quite unlikely. Kuo is saying early 2021 for the first consumer machines.
I think it’ll be a Wednesday launch either 13th or 20th. With regards to WWDC I think it’ll be presented very similar to the PowerPC transition. I think they’ll say we’re switching as it has better power per watt and that they can develop on their own timescale. Like that transition they’ll probably say they’re starting the product switch next year (they may announce the first arm product maybe a 12 inch MacBook) however they’ll say again like the last transition that they still have some exciting intel products (mini led and iMac Pro in q4) to come.
In 2019, the May update was for desperately needed better cooling and the 3rd gen butterfly keyboard along with new chips for the mid- and upper-tier. Then later in July, the nTB came to an end for the entry-level along with similar updates to the upper tier 13” MBPs. Not sure if delays in Intel chips also played a factor for the staggered introduction.
I don’t know if there will be a need to have two updates this year for the smaller MBP. I feel the May release will let us know based on whether or not we see a similar pattern to 2019 of only certain tiers being refreshed while the other is left alone OR if all are updated at the same time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple goes from 3 tiers to 2 tiers actually for no other reason then to consolidate the line. Post-WWDC should be focused on the 16”, Mini, and iMac hopefully. Seriously looking at the latter 2 in the near future.
As for the ARM MacBook that won’t have anything to do with the Pro line in 2020. What OS it will run and the timeline will remain to be seen at WWDC, but all initial rumors say that early 2021 is when the earliest for when the first machines will be available for sale.
I don’t know if there will be a need to have two updates this year for the smaller MBP. I feel the May release will let us know based on whether or not we see a similar pattern to 2019 of only certain tiers being refreshed while the other is left alone OR if all are updated at the same time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple goes from 3 tiers to 2 tiers actually for no other reason then to consolidate the line. Post-WWDC should be focused on the 16”, Mini, and iMac hopefully. Seriously looking at the latter 2 in the near future.
As for the ARM MacBook that won’t have anything to do with the Pro line in 2020. What OS it will run and the timeline will remain to be seen at WWDC, but all initial rumors say that early 2021 is when the earliest for when the first machines will be available for sale.
Personally I don’t think it’s the weight that’s the problem with the 16”. It’s the large footprint which makes it very impractical if you’re on the move or using it in places with limited space.
I agree that the weight is not an issue. Having owned 13", 15" and 16" I do prefer the additional screen space of the 16", especially for SW development. But I have basically given up on using the machine when traveling. The IPAD is what I use for that. As usual it comes down to you personal use case and your priorities what is best for you.
I think there will be marginal cpu performance increases with a significant graphics boost. However clock speeds will be lower at 2.3GHz 4.1GHz boost compared to the current speeds
New 2020 13-inch MacBook Pro Specs Tested Reveal a 28W Intel 10th-Gen CPU, up to 32GB RAM and Gobs of Storage
New 2020 13-inch MacBook Pro specs show up in the latest test, revealing that Apple could provide a 32GB RAM option
wccftech.com
0% chance of ARM confirmed by the new benchmark leak. Also it would’ve got leaked by now if that was the case. Yeah it’s either going to get launched at WWDC or before. My guess is at WWDC. Developers love the 13/14 form factor and cheaper price than the 16. It will sell like hot cakes.
I have until the 31st to return my SL if I choose to do so. So, I’ll at least get an opportunity to see what Apple releases before I decide what to do. I’ll only be tempted if it’s a 14-inch screen. Otherwise, meh.
i'm starting to think Apple won't cut entirely with Intel , ok Intel made a lot of reason to go for but Apple has a tons of Intel users , and counting with new Macbook pro 16 , Air and next 13-14 Pro..., so i think they will have a dual offerings , an IPAD OS EVOLVED ... and the Old Intel Mac Os... and with some kind of dialogue in both directions - compatibility between the 2 systems , such as as for now with Marzipan
