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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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There were rumours of updated iMacs with reduced bezels I believe.
Just a quick reminder what happened last time with the design change (2016). Never buy 1gen Apple products lol
Moreover, last platform change there was Steve Jobs around. And Apple switched to the chips that everyone used. Now is a different story though.
I'm going for this 2020 MBP. Want to be safe, like with my 2015 MBP. This transition is going to be rough
Moreover, last platform change there was Steve Jobs around. And Apple switched to the chips that everyone used. Now is a different story though.
I'm going for this 2020 MBP. Want to be safe, like with my 2015 MBP. This transition is going to be rough
Right, because principally Arm platforms are definitely as niche as it gets
ARM development is common, but many important things are written for x86 only and many things end up having dependencies that are ancient, haven’t been updated in years and are x86. You start to notice this limitation a lot when working with raspberry pi’s.
'many things' is a little vague... any specifics you can give? For Apple centric developers, those who specifically develop for Apple platform(s) first, the tools required will all be provided by Apple, as part of the development kits.
For software which isn't Apple first, ultimately there's always effort that's going to need to be put in to bring that software for Mac, even if it's written for x86 Windows first. I'm pretty sure if it's worth the time to port your software to Mac x86, that's not going to change for Mac Arm, and vice versa.
Ultimately I don't think being on the same architecture as Windows really has helped the Mac to build a thriving software ecosystem, indeed I don't think that was ever really the point - Apple were after the best performance/ watt, and it just happened to be Intel that could provide it at that time.
The rumors said 2020 for ARM, now 2021. But the reality I'm seeing is Intel giving Apple their very own special snowflake part, just like when the Macbook Air launched.
I would not discount the possibility that Intel has won back Apple's business.
I would not discount the possibility that Intel has won back Apple's business.
Apple has long gotten custom 28W processors for the Pro. The Air processors are slightly modified.
you don’t think that there will be an update for the 1.4GHz base model soon (July?). In 2019 a base MBP model was released in May and then another base in July 🙄
PS:what a way to make customers dizzy... 🤪
PS:what a way to make customers dizzy... 🤪
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Just cancelled my base model order and went for the 10th gen instead. Since I'll be using this device for my work every single day, I didn't want to make too many compromises which I would regret later on. With 16 GB RAM and 512 GB storage the price difference really isn't that huge.
While I'm excited to see what Apple will come up with regarding ARM and a 14" display, it's most certainly going to be even more expensive and as mentioned before, investing in first gen devices for productivity/work isn't always the smartest choice.
I think this 2020 10th gen MBP will be a great machine for years to come. And even if Apple had a very intriguing, reliable and kind of affordable ARM MacBook on the market next year and I would really want to get it, the resale value of the 2020 10th gen would proportionally be better than that of the 2020 8th gen I suppose.
While I'm excited to see what Apple will come up with regarding ARM and a 14" display, it's most certainly going to be even more expensive and as mentioned before, investing in first gen devices for productivity/work isn't always the smartest choice.
I think this 2020 10th gen MBP will be a great machine for years to come. And even if Apple had a very intriguing, reliable and kind of affordable ARM MacBook on the market next year and I would really want to get it, the resale value of the 2020 10th gen would proportionally be better than that of the 2020 8th gen I suppose.
I don’t know, when Windows tried the RT experiment, didn’t work out well.
How many developers will make a Mac, Windows and Mac(ARM) version of their applications?
We just have to look at how dire development was for the Touch Bar which is relatively non-existent.
There are so many odd applications you install on your laptop which could become a headache when the new laptop doesn’t support it.
If it's with the fat binaries, then everybody will make a Mac+Mac(ARM) version in one click.
That's Microsoft, and RT was a sideshow. This is Apple and it will be an all encompassing transition. No comparison there. Absolutely none.
It's not about Mac x86 and Mac Arm in perpetuity, its a transition. It's unlikely to take more than a couple of years for this exact reason.
Again, Apple's mistake with the Touch Bar is not including it on every Mac model, meaning fragmentation and little incentive to put in the effort for a minority of Mac users. Just doubly underlines why Apple needs to come out swinging and switch models over as rapidly as it can.
Again, 'so many' really vague. Unless you can point to some specific software that's wildly popular and has no chance of being brought to Arm Macs, this is irrelevant.
Could you explain why Wifi 6 is so crucial in your opinion? Personally, I don't really see any key advantages for my use case. Nice to have, sure. But I'm don't know much about this topic so please explain. 🙂
Prosser seems to confirm the 14“ for 2021.
And the source he is replying to says it will be Intel, not ARM.
I think I will just wait for another year as I can't say I am totally convinced about the latest MBP release specs. Hopefully my MBP late 2013 will hold out a little while longer and they will actually release it in early 2021.
At this point are we really even sure Apple is going to go all in with ARM? They just released their new Mac Pro, I think if they made an announcement of dropping intel in WWDC, that would have a very negative impact on their professional products. I think what's more likely is that they will transition to ARM on some products like the MBA and Mac Mini and leave the "pro" products on intel.
My other thought can really go either way, but its related to developers and Apple's 10% marketshare. Other then getting MS and Adobe to be on board for an ARM based product, other developers may not be willing (or able) to transition over and opt to leave, OR just use their less featured iOS app. For instance, MS office on the Mac is a lot more featured then iOS, yet we could see MS decide to just port the iPad version of Office to ARM macOS. This is of course all speculation, and until Apple formally announces their intent, we are just guessing
No idea, but the fact remains even if they go whole hog with ARM, they will still need to support intel for years to come.
I recently got a Wifi 6 router and a few days later I realized that my iPhone connected to my router even before I parked my car in front of my house. Before that I didn't have any connection before I entered the house. So the range is better. And while I don't need the full bandwidth of Wifi 6, I only have a 500Mbit/s connection, I think that having a higher bandwidth available means that a higher percentage of it reaches the device. And I've read that Wifi 6 only reaches its full potential once all the devices in your network support it.
You are right. One big advantage of WiFi6 over previous gens lies in handling well many devices.
Okay, thanks for explaining. I can see that's important to some people but completely negligible in my case.