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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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I really want to replace my iMac Late '15 with a new MBP 16", just need some hint on when its going to be replaced. The Mac Rumors Buyers guide says don't buy so I'm holding out.
I thought and hoped you were onto something then as I’m also waiting for a refresh. But the same model 16 inch is still available to purchase directly on the Apple Store app unfortunately
The new model would cost the same as the old model probably (on apple.com) and may have fewer bugs since it'll still be Intel. I doubt it will come out this soon but I'll order it when it does in the next few months.
So, yesterday my space grey 13" MB Pro 2020 model arrived. I went from an 11" i7 MBA from 2011 with 4GB ram to this new MBP 13" i7 with 32GB ram.
I've got to say, I'm getting used to it slowly:
- dimensions-wise, this 13" is a bit deeper than the 11" Air, so feels a bit bigger
- my old MBA is silver, this space grey is a bit of a fingerprint magnet
- although this is the 'magic keyboard' model, I've got to say that I prefer the deeper travel of my MBA. It'd be nice if the key travel was maybe one more millimetre deeper
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My MBA lasted 9 years, so I'm hoping this MBP will last a good while, as I don't plan to upgrade again any time soon. Prior to my MBA, I had a PowerBook 12" for 7 years. The MBA isn't dead yet, but chugs a lot.
Finally a few things on sleep mode, has the sleep mode option disappeared and replaced with 'put hard drive to sleep where possible'? I'm sure there used to be an option ion the energy saver section of the settings app where we could say 'put it to sleep after 5 mins'. I know there's a display 'off' feature after N minutes, but I could've sworn there was a separate sleep option too. The other thing about sleep mode: how long am I supposed to hold the touch ID button to enable sleep? I googled it and held it yesterday, but the whole machine just switched off.
Thanks.
I've got to say, I'm getting used to it slowly:
- dimensions-wise, this 13" is a bit deeper than the 11" Air, so feels a bit bigger
- my old MBA is silver, this space grey is a bit of a fingerprint magnet
- although this is the 'magic keyboard' model, I've got to say that I prefer the deeper travel of my MBA. It'd be nice if the key travel was maybe one more millimetre deeper
- does
My MBA lasted 9 years, so I'm hoping this MBP will last a good while, as I don't plan to upgrade again any time soon. Prior to my MBA, I had a PowerBook 12" for 7 years. The MBA isn't dead yet, but chugs a lot.
Finally a few things on sleep mode, has the sleep mode option disappeared and replaced with 'put hard drive to sleep where possible'? I'm sure there used to be an option ion the energy saver section of the settings app where we could say 'put it to sleep after 5 mins'. I know there's a display 'off' feature after N minutes, but I could've sworn there was a separate sleep option too. The other thing about sleep mode: how long am I supposed to hold the touch ID button to enable sleep? I googled it and held it yesterday, but the whole machine just switched off.
Thanks.
Hopefully a 16” refresh will occur this side of the year based on the intel chip. Also a nice front cam spec bump to 1080p before the end of this year.
I hope so, it's a real bummer that they aren't more clear about how much support they're offering and when they'll transition to their own processors. Not that they ever are!
What are you looking for?
From the Software perspective I think they have been quite clear and demonstrated the technologies at WWDC. Then it is up to the developers.
From the hardware perspective Apple generally do not pre-announce, so why would they now. They do not want to spoil the big reveal.
From the Software perspective I think they have been quite clear and demonstrated the technologies at WWDC. Then it is up to the developers.
From the hardware perspective Apple generally do not pre-announce, so why would they now. They do not want to spoil the big reveal.
It'd be nice for them to say "Buy an Intel Mac in 2020 and get software updates until 202X" rather than "software updates for Years" people are giving their best guess but it's not the same as hearing it from Apple themselves.
My own use pattern is different to most people, I tend to get a few more years out of my mac than other people and I'd like to know what I'm getting when I put my money down.
I'm not saying they're obligated to do anything, nor am I comparing them to anyone else, I'm just saying a little bit more info on what can be expected if you buy a Mac with an Intel Processor in 2020.
I don't think that's unreasonable!
I guess historically they have supported computers with new versions of the OS until they are ”vintage”, i.e. about five years. I would assume we could expect the same thing here from Apple.
They have obviously be running the OS on multiple architectures for some time. So continuing like that is probably no great effort.
I think the problem will be more with 3rd party developers, who may drop support for Intel faster than Apple, but that is out of Apples control.
One reason for cutting support early would be if Apple SoC will provide new hardware support that is not available on Intel. Lack of hardware support could lead to OS features missing on Intel version of OS and maybe to dropping Intel systems earlier.
But to be clear, for me my MBP is a business expense so I typically only use a computer for 3 years as my primary system, then it becomes a backup And use for beta testing for another three years.
They have obviously be running the OS on multiple architectures for some time. So continuing like that is probably no great effort.
I think the problem will be more with 3rd party developers, who may drop support for Intel faster than Apple, but that is out of Apples control.
One reason for cutting support early would be if Apple SoC will provide new hardware support that is not available on Intel. Lack of hardware support could lead to OS features missing on Intel version of OS and maybe to dropping Intel systems earlier.
But to be clear, for me my MBP is a business expense so I typically only use a computer for 3 years as my primary system, then it becomes a backup And use for beta testing for another three years.
Today I gave away my 16 inch (2.3/32/1tb) to another employee who required a new computer immediately and migrated over to a spare 2019 iMac (6 core/16/1tb ssd/560x). Im not traveling right now and i have an 2018 ipp with magic keyboard.
I don’t really “need” a laptop until the late winter / early spring. Will be interesting to see what I can hold out for. I’d really like an AS laptop, the ability to run iOS and iPadOS apps really appeals to me.
I don’t really “need” a laptop until the late winter / early spring. Will be interesting to see what I can hold out for. I’d really like an AS laptop, the ability to run iOS and iPadOS apps really appeals to me.
I'll put money on you being able to get an AS lap top by year's end or early 21, but it won't be a 16inch comp. That's a good 8 months off at the earliest I reckon.
It's even looking likely that there won't be a refresh of 16 inch machines this year. And even if there is, it will be insignificant at best... IMO.
Pretty surprising that the MBP 16 will be almost a year old with no refresh.
I'm holding out until the next refresh to buy one. Would be very surprised if there isn't any updates this year (even processor bump).
At this point, if the mac that they put out in the next refresh doesn't represent more than a processor update, I think I'm going to go to a Windows machine. Sorry, don't hate me, etc.