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Waiting till Day 600.

Wild-Bill said:
Ivy Bridge Xeons are supposed to hit this Spring. So when they do, the Sandybridge Xeons will be obsolete. I'd rather have new tech in an updated Mac Pro. Apple has dogged this machine with obsolete video cards practically since its inception. We need not add CPU's to the roster.

via Digitimes
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lol. Wrong!

SB-E is far from obsolete. IB doesn't have 6/8 core CPUs in its lineup!

Go and do some more reading ;)
 
Apple... said:
15 more days, and being it that there's a keynote this upcoming Wednesday for the iPad 3, and that Dell is "no longer a PC company", might as well keep waiting.
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Well 15 days left but at this point I'll wait at least till the end of March/first couple weeks of April. If there will be no refresh in this period of time, I doubt we will see a new Mac Pro. The xeon E5 are here so no more excuses :D
 
When is the new mac pro with the new 4k monitor coming? What is the high definition desktop photo from Lion for, if there are no hardware to use it?

What is going on here, I have been waiting and waiting. At least show a sign or something.
 
ma2ha3 said:
When is the new mac pro with the new 4k monitor coming? What is the high definition desktop photo from Lion for, if there are no hardware to use it?

What is going on here, I have been waiting and waiting. At least show a sign or something.
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4K monitors are currently tens of thousands of dollars. I can't imagine an Apple one coming any time soon.
 
ma2ha3 said:
When is the new mac pro with the new 4k monitor coming? What is the high definition desktop photo from Lion for, if there are no hardware to use it?

What is going on here, I have been waiting and waiting. At least show a sign or something.
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Since when has the Mac Pro ever shipped with a monitor? That is purchased separately. If I'm assuming correctly, you're thinking of the rumored "Retina" Macs; theses aren't expected until later this year, and I believe we'll only see them on laptops at first. Apple is a very secretive company, and we all wish as much as you do to know what they're thinking.
 
Wild-Bill said:
Ivy Bridge Xeons are supposed to hit this Spring. So when they do, the Sandybridge Xeons will be obsolete. I'd rather have new tech in an updated Mac Pro. Apple has dogged this machine with obsolete video cards practically since its inception. We need not add CPU's to the roster.

via Digitimes
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They are talking about "consumer" Ivy i7 being released. Just as "consumer" Sandy Bridge has been available for months, Ivy will be available for months before the Xeon variants. The Xeon's have more stringent stability and verifications to undergo. Ivy for Xeon will be another year from now at least.
 
derbothaus said:
They are talking about "consumer" Ivy i7 being released. Just as "consumer" Sandy Bridge has been available for months, Ivy will be available for months before the Xeon variants.
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Not really.

The Xeon E3 , E5 , and E7 series are each on different upgrade cycles.

The E3's are paired with the "Consumer" Core i series offerings. They will transition to "Ivy Bridge" in the Spring. (Sandy Bridge 4/2011 )

The E5's are moving to Sandy Bridge next week 3/2012 ( Westmere 4/2010 )

The E7' moved to Westmere (Westmere-EX 4/2011 ) last Spring. It may move to Sandy Bridge later in the year (probably moving to 12 cores per die since the Westmere-EX appears to be missing two http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/25/intel_westmere_ex_sandy_bridge_ep_xeons/ ) or it may be on hold until the Ivy Bridge shrink to make room for the two missing cores ( http://realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT072811020122 ). Probably the latter since the chip is so relatively huge and high end server vendors so risk adverse ( and slow moving).






The Xeon's have more stringent stability and verifications to undergo. Ivy for Xeon will be another year from now at least.
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The slower moving Xeon's are the E7's. This E5 delay though was a screw up.
 
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derbothaus said:
They are talking about "consumer" Ivy i7 being released. Just as "consumer" Sandy Bridge has been available for months, Ivy will be available for months before the Xeon variants. The Xeon's have more stringent stability and verifications to undergo. Ivy for Xeon will be another year from now at least.
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Not true
Xeon E3-1200 v2 CPUs will launch sometime from from April 9 to May 11. Second generation E3-1200 family will make use of Ivy Bridge microarchitecture, and, in addition to microarchitecture improvements, the family will boast faster graphics on E3-12x5 SKUs, slightly higher clock speeds, and lower TDP. If the recent report about delay of quad-core Ivy Bridge CPUs is true, Xeon E3-1200v2 could be delayed until May.
 
OK. So I was off a few months. Ivy will follow Sandy. Xeon variants are generally later arriving than the i7 counterparts. Someone want to respond with a "not true" or "wrong" to that?

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deconstruct60 said:
The slower moving Xeon's are the E7's. This E5 delay though was a screw up.
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They were fixing things not included in SB-E i7. Not just through screw up.
You all are so retardedly literal.

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trajan2448 said:
Not true
Xeon E3-1200 v2 CPUs will launch sometime from from April 9 to May 11. Second generation E3-1200 family will make use of Ivy Bridge microarchitecture, and, in addition to microarchitecture improvements, the family will boast faster graphics on E3-12x5 SKUs, slightly higher clock speeds, and lower TDP. If the recent report about delay of quad-core Ivy Bridge CPUs is true, Xeon E3-1200v2 could be delayed until May.
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No one cares about E3, totally irrelevant. They will most likely never be used by Apple. Which is who makes Mac Pro, which is what this thread was about. So still true.
 
This wait is killing me. I ordered a new Mac Pro 2.93 12 core with ATI 5870, then canceled it two days later. It felt good for two days though? The time is ticking, and my hopes are dying.
 
tony3d said:
This wait is killing me. I ordered a new Mac Pro 2.93 12 core with ATI 5870, then canceled it two days later. It felt good for two days though? The time is ticking, and my hopes are dying.
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I'd restart your hopes from when the Xeons are launched and Dell et al start shipping their E5 based workstations.

Then, and only then, is the Mac Pro late.
 
Umbongo said:
Xeons aren't out yet, just the 3 consumer ones.
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Sorry mate you're wrong there. SB-E have been out since mid November. These are the server level chips we need. They have also been available with 8 cores but have been seriously expensive. Google is your friend :D

You should see the physical size difference between the SB and SB-E. Some guys are finding it hard to understand the difference - those buggers are twice the size!
 
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Snahbah said:
Sorry mate you're wrong there. SB-E have been out since mid November. These are the server level chips we need. They have also been available with 8 cores but have been seriously expensive. Google is your friend :D
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Sorry, but WTF are you on about? :confused:

Link 1: http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-t...core-sandy-bridge-ep-at-cebit-2012/14506.html
Link 2: http://www.cpu-world.com/Releases/Server_CPU_releases_(2012).html#March

The LGA2011 E5-1xxx and E5-2xxx CPUs are officially launched tomorrow.

The E5-1xxx chips are the Xeon equivalent of the i7-38xx and i7-39xx CPUs launched previously.
The E5-2xxx chips are destined for the DP MP and come in a range of 4,6,8 active cores.

The 130W CPUs will be going into the SP MP.
The 95W CPUs will be going into the MP MP (based on the 2009/2010 MP).

I suggest you google... ;)
 
Snahbah said:
Sorry mate you're wrong there. SB-E have been out since mid November. These are the server level chips we need. They have also been available with 8 cores but have been seriously expensive. Google is your friend
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The E5s have been available since mid-November? Ummm... No. The single-processor 2 and 4-core E3s have been available since last year, but those aren't the type of processors Apple uses for the Mac Pros.

jas
 
jasonvp said:
The E5s have been available since mid-November? Ummm... No. The single-processor 2 and 4-core E3s have been available since last year, but those aren't the type of processors Apple uses for the Mac Pros.

jas
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Thanks fellas, nice. SB-E's have been out for a while, as you know, did I say E5? Sorry if it sounded that way. Anyway, we are going to see 8 processors, that's the interesting bit.
 
Need a new Mac Pro!

Just keeping sending message to apple.com/feedback asking for the release...
As consumer , that the only thing a can do to promote my NEEEEEDS!:D
Maybe everyone hoping for a new mac pro should do the same!
 
thunderbolt for a mac pro is not quite as much of an issue as the imac and portables - as it has real pci-e slots which are faster than thunderbolt anyway (thunderbolt is essentially a slow spec of PCI-E on a cable).

which means you can perhaps in future pick up a thunderbolt card, or if you need peripherals that need thunderbolt speed - get fibre channel or a PCI-E card today?

thunderbolt is a big thing for machines with no PCI-E slots (i.e., portables). for desktops with slots.... no gain?
 
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