Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, this is the 5W model. Does your 10W support fast charging?
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I bought the RAVPower fast charging stand and it works great for me, no problems with charging position. 7.5W mode is supported.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074V3SJ9H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_j08iAbP04JJYW
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074V3SJ9H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_j08iAbP04JJYW
Do you need a special USB power adapter to get fast charging, or would any with at least 7.5W work (like Apple's 12W iPad charger)?
Looks like Anker 10W charged at 5W.
Using 12W iPad charger. Might need a different AC adapter.
The output of the (this and probably a lot of others) wireless charger is either 5V/1A or 9V/1.1A - therefore you cannot get anything higher than 5W with an iPad 12W charger which uses 5V. Only 9V/1.1A could go higher.
The adapter itself can output 5.2V/2.4A (~12W) or something...but the charger will accept input of 5V/2A and output 5V/1A=5W.
QC2.0, 3.0 adapters support both voltages.
P.S. Update - output of the charger is 5V/1A, input from adapter is 2A... why does the multimeter shows 1A where it is between the adapter and input to the charger - I don’t know
In any case, as I said, I believe on 5V can not result in output more than 5W on this charger....Hope I did not wrote a mistake
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As I understand it, iPad charger will not be able to do it. Somebody correct me if I made a mistake.
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After 2 days of causal research and reading all 29 pages here (
I narrowed it down to either the Mophie or the RavPower. Although the RavPower is smaller overall, the Mophie appeared thinner which was more important to me. I didn't care if it was wide, I just wanted it thin. I watched a few YouTube videos and noticed that in some RavPower videos the YouTuber had to adjust the phone to get it to link with the RavPower, I never saw that issue with Mophie.
Overall, I'm happy. I was immediately impressed when I took it out of the box because it was quite hefty and a had a solid feel. It seem very high quality with a good length cable similar the the Apple HDMI cords.
I know you have to be carful with the way you place the device, but I haven't misaligned it once. I tend to be a bit funny about how I place my device anyway (e.g. if I set it on a table I always place it parallel to the edge so it's straight). I naturally place it centered on the puck. If you just tossed it on you would have trouble I suppose.
Could you, please do some testing and tell how many % can Mophie charge per 10 minutes when battery is under 50%?
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Could you, please do some testing and tell how many % can Mophie charge per 10 minutes when battery is under 50%?[/QUOTE]
It will be later this evening, but I’ll let you know.
I got my Mophie the day iOS 11.2 came out so I can’t compare but most tech sites found no difference on the beta.
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Could you, please do some testing and tell how many % can Mophie charge per 10 minutes when battery is under 50%?[/QUOTE]
It will be later this evening, but I’ll let you know.
I got my Mophie the day iOS 11.2 came out so I can’t compare but most tech sites found no difference on the beta.
It will be later this evening, but I’ll let you know.
I got my Mophie the day iOS 11.2 came out so I can’t compare but most tech sites found no difference on the beta.[/QUOTE]
So it’s false advertising. Also my charger is 9V. So it should do 7.5 watts
Can anyone please corroborate this?? Everyone’s non mophie or non Belkin wireless chargers are about to be much less worth their cost of Apple truly locked down the fast charging to their Authorized chargers.
How can you actually see how fast your charging is? Can't find a "coconut battery" app in the app store.
The output of the (this and probably a lot of others) wireless charger is either 5V/1A or 9V/1.1A - therefore you cannot get anything higher than 5W with an iPad 12W charger which uses 5V. Only 9V/1.1A could go higher.
The adapter itself can output 5.2V/2.4A (~12W) or something...but the charger will accept input of 5V/2A and output 5V/1A=5W.
QC2.0, 3.0 adapters support both voltages.
P.S. Update - output of the charger is 5V/1A, input from adapter is 2A... why does the multimeter shows 1A where it is between the adapter and input to the charger - I don’t know
...Hope I did not wrote a mistake
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As I understand it, iPad charger will not be able to do it. Somebody correct me if I made a mistake.
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Could you, please do some testing and tell how many % can Mophie charge per 10 minutes when battery is under 50%?
Okay, so I did some informal tests. I ran my iPhone 8 down to 8% power and then turned on Airplane mode.
Originally, wireless chargers were supposed to charge at 5w just like the included charger so I did two 10 minute bouts with the included brick and two 10 minute bouts with the Mophie pad which is supposed to charge at 7.5w. Here were the results.
- 1st 10 minutes - 5W Power Brick: 8% to 18% = 10%
- 2nd 10 minutes - 5W Power Brick: 18% to 28% = 10%
- 3rd 10 minutes - Mophie: = 28% to 38% = 10%
- 4th 10 minutes - Mophie: = 38% to 45% = 7%
So, based on my quick test there was no gain from using the wireless charger and even an odd decrease in the second set. Perhaps the 7.5w charging was removed since 11.2 was released so quickly? I was surprised to see an even 1% per minute for the first 3 tests.
Fast charging is either closed off or not activated by Apple or companies are lying to push units - something.
None of RAVPower's products that are labeled as supporting or doing fast charging actually do. They are still locked at 5W. Not even Samsung's Fast Charging pads and stands work with fast charging for iOS.
The only pads or chargers I have that actually support fast charging are the Belkin Boost pad and then Mophie's wireless pad. If you have the RAVPower and are desperate for fast charging, you can do a return easily through Amazon and spend the extra $10 to get a mophie charger. I've never been a diehard fan of mophie's products, but at the very least they've never claimed something they didn't know and nver continued to lie after realizing a fault in their wording.
In short, only mophie and Belkin support fast charging as of now. Nothing RP or any other company has out that claims to support fast charging for iOS actually does.
None of RAVPower's products that are labeled as supporting or doing fast charging actually do. They are still locked at 5W. Not even Samsung's Fast Charging pads and stands work with fast charging for iOS.
The only pads or chargers I have that actually support fast charging are the Belkin Boost pad and then Mophie's wireless pad. If you have the RAVPower and are desperate for fast charging, you can do a return easily through Amazon and spend the extra $10 to get a mophie charger. I've never been a diehard fan of mophie's products, but at the very least they've never claimed something they didn't know and nver continued to lie after realizing a fault in their wording.
In short, only mophie and Belkin support fast charging as of now. Nothing RP or any other company has out that claims to support fast charging for iOS actually does.
But if you see my above post, my Mophie FROM Apple is charger no faster (maybe even slightly slower) then the phone's included charger.
And if you google it you'll see other sites did tests through the beta and found little or no difference. I think Apple pulled it.
I thought so, but SOMETHING must be wrong. Don't get me wrong, I really don't care. If I need a fast charge I'll plug into my iPad charger. The wireless charing pad is for casual setting the phone down or overnight charing where 5w is adequate. I just find it funny that 7.5w was a selling point if it would make no difference.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EMWJ6Z6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YbojAb72JJPN9
What picture are you wanting? I have a plug-in wattage meter that bounces back and forth between 7 and 8 watts (it doesn’t show tenths) while using this charger with an iPad wall adapter.
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And even more importantly, does this mean that every non-Apple authorized wireless charger is basically a 5w, at best? In that case, everyone who wants a fast charger ought to all run out and get Mophies and Belkins.
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There will not likely be any MFi certified wireless chargers, because Apple has signed onto the Qi wireless charging consortium, which means they'll accept Qi standards. That being said, Apple did make a point to say that they would bring their own wireless charging knowledge to Qi, improving things for everyone wherever they can, so we might see more Apple branded wireless charging devices beyond the AirPower mat.
I used this last night after update to 11.2, it is hook up to my multi ports 2A USB slot from charger:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Cert...s&keywords=samsung+fast+wireless+charger&th=1
Charged 20 minutes from 61% to 71%
Charged another 20 minutes from 71% to 82%
Do these numbers mean 5W or 7.5W?
Do I need to hook up to the included charger plug instead of the 2A USB port?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Cert...s&keywords=samsung+fast+wireless+charger&th=1
Charged 20 minutes from 61% to 71%
Charged another 20 minutes from 71% to 82%
Do these numbers mean 5W or 7.5W?
Do I need to hook up to the included charger plug instead of the 2A USB port?
I got into the office this morning and did some more tests with a solid base. I'm using RAVPower's included cable and 24W charging block and Mophie's proprietary charger.
RAVPower after ten minutes got me from 56% to 67%. Screen was off, checked time via a sepratae timer.
Mophie after ten minutes from a different outlet got me from 43% to 59%.
I'm not sure what may be wrong with your charger(s) or outlets or whatever it may be, but I do know that Mophie supports fast charging.