What 3rd party wireless charger will you get? [MERGED]

[puckhead193]

I used this last night after update to 11.2, it is hook up to my multi ports 2A USB slot from charger:

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Certified-Supports-compatible-smartphones/dp/B075V234VL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1512402060&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=samsung+fast+wireless+charger&th=1

Charged 20 minutes from 61% to 71%
Charged another 20 minutes from 71% to 82%

Do these numbers mean 5W or 7.5W?

Do I need to hook up to the included charger plug instead of the 2A USB port?

besides speed, how do you find the charger? Is the LED annoying

 

[powerocool]

Looks like Anker 10W with Samsung adaptive charger. Is still pulling at 5W.

*I'll run the battery down under 50% and test again. This is at about 80% charged.

 

[Cyroceon]

Getting pretty close to confirming that the non-Apple authorized wireless chargers are not going to output more than 5W.

 

[puckhead193]

Getting pretty close to confirming that the non-Apple authorized wireless chargers are not going to output more than 5W.

mophie needs to come out with a stand version and not charge more for it.

 

[Susurs]

I got into the office this morning and did some more tests with a solid base. I'm using RAVPower's included cable and 24W charging block and Mophie's proprietary charger.

RAVPower after ten minutes got me from 56% to 67%. Screen was off, checked time via a sepratae timer.

Mophie after ten minutes from a different outlet got me from 43% to 59%.

I'm not sure what may be wrong with your charger(s) or outlets or whatever it may be, but I do know that Mophie supports fast charging.

Which RavPower’s product was it?

 

[PharmDao]

For what it’s worth, here is what RAVPower customer service told me regarding support for 7.5 Watt support and clarification on the LED light colors on its RAVPower Fast Wireless Charger

The item can support 7.5W charging.

The current setting in iPhone is different with other phones.It does not send signal to our wireless charger so it will not turn to green. The indicator stays orange when charging iPhones, whether it is fast or standard charge as iPhone do not send the signal to the wireless charger as other Qi-Enabled Phones do. But do not need to worry about it.Our wireless charger can detect the current need of the phone and charge your phone well.

 

[Bomb617]

besides speed, how do you find the charger? Is the LED annoying

I am charging my phone at my bedside table and didn't noticed the light at all

 

[itlynstalyn]

For what it’s worth, here is what RAVPower customer service told me regarding support for 7.5 Watt support and clarification on the LED light colors on its RAVPower Fast Wireless Charger

The item can support 7.5W charging.

The current setting in iPhone is different with other phones.It does not send signal to our wireless charger so it will not turn to green. The indicator stays orange when charging iPhones, whether it is fast or standard charge as iPhone do not send the signal to the wireless charger as other Qi-Enabled Phones do. But do not need to worry about it.Our wireless charger can detect the current need of the phone and charge your phone well.

Yeah, they told me that it was coming out in 11.3. Kind of a bunch of BS if you ask me. I may return mine since it clearly isn't supporting 7.5w.

 

[bigjnyc]

So I guess its starting to look like the general consensus is, that only Belkin and Mophie sold by apple are charging at 7.5w? I have the mophie and the anker 10W, it doesn't really make a difference to me since I charge overnight and haven't had the need to top off during the day yet... but I just find it interesting.

 

[Susurs]

For what it’s worth, here is what RAVPower customer service told me regarding support for 7.5 Watt support and clarification on the LED light colors on its RAVPower Fast Wireless Charger

The item can support 7.5W charging.

The current setting in iPhone is different with other phones.It does not send signal to our wireless charger so it will not turn to green. The indicator stays orange when charging iPhones, whether it is fast or standard charge as iPhone do not send the signal to the wireless charger as other Qi-Enabled Phones do. But do not need to worry about it.Our wireless charger can detect the current need of the phone and charge your phone well.

Isn’t it the phone which draws only as much power as it needs from the available power?
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Looks like Anker 10W with Samsung adaptive charger. Is still pulling at 5W.

*I'll run the battery down under 50% and test again. This is at about 80% charged.

Really looking forward to see the result.

 

[MBHockey]

Wasn’t it on release notes tho?

so was Apple Pay cash

 

[Bako-MacAddict]

You posted in the wrong thread.

Lmao, no wonder I haven’t got a reply yet m. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[davidcmc]

There’s a 15W Belkin wireless charger (also named “Boost Up”) not sold on Apple site. However, according to Belkin support, this one also supports 7.5W output for the new iPhones.

http://www.belkin.com/us/F7U014-Belkin/p/P-F7U014/

Take a look at the questions from customers and the answers from Belkin support. According to Belkin, the white model (which outputs a maximum of 7.5W) has been made specifically for iPhones, hence its 7.5W output.

The other “Boost Up” model is titled as “for Samsung” and outputs 15W max. Belkin support answers expressly state that it supports 7.5W output for new iPhones. In other words, the black model, with 15W max output, is future proof.

Edit:

Here's my chat with Belkin support:

Spoiler

Saravanan E

Hello David Cavalcante. My name is Saravanan.
Thank you for choosing Belkin chat support. Is this your first time to contact Belkin or do you have a case number?

5:22:41 PM
Me
This is my first contact

5:22:49 PM
Saravanan E
How may I help you today?

5:23:06 PM
Me
I've recently acquired an iPhone 8 and have just installed iOS 11.2 update

5:23:50 PM
I'm looking for a wireless charger and noticed that Belkin has two "Boost Up" wireless chargers, one white (7.5W output) and another one black (15W output)

5:24:33 PM
The white one is specifically made for iPhones 8, 8 Plus and X, while the black (15W) is titled as "for Samsung"

5:24:52 PM
My question is: can I buy the black one (15W)? Will it output 7.5W for my iPhone 8? If I want to charge my phone at 7.5W, do I have to buy the white one, specifically made for iPhones and that outputs 7.5W max?

5:25:47 PM
Saravanan E
Can you please help me with the model number of the devices?

5:27:23 PM
Me
F7U014dqSLV (black, "for Samsung", 15W max output)

5:27:52 PM
F7U027dqWHT (white, "for iPhone", 7.5W max output)

5:28:05 PM
Saravanan E
Could you please give me few minutes, so that I can check with my resources and let you know?

5:28:31 PM
Me
Ok

5:28:36 PM
Saravanan E
Thank you.

5:28:44 PM
Thank you for your patience and time.

5:35:36 PM
Both the models are compatible with Iphone 8. Model F7U014 supports upto 15W so it is capable of supplying 7.5W to your phone.

5:37:16 PM
Me
That's great. So the F7U014 is future proof

5:37:49 PM
I believe the F7U027 model has been made after the F7U014. If the 15W is better, why exactly has Belkin made the 7.5W model?

5:38:43 PM
Saravanan E
Model F7U027 is compatible only with iPhone X
iPhone 8 Plus , iPhone 8. Model F7U014 is also compatible with samsung.

5:41:19 PM
Me
I see. I just don't get why Belkin made a model specific for iPhones with smaller wattage output, when there's already one compatible with every Qi phone and higher wattage output, that's also compatible with iPhones.

5:42:22 PM
Anyway, companies have their reasons and looks like Apple has asked Belkin to make an iPhone specific model.

5:42:54 PM
Saravanan E
Is there anything else I can assist you with?

5:44:11 PM
Me
Nope. Thank you very much.

5:45:05 PM
Saravanan E
Thank you for choosing Belkin live chat support, you were chatting with Saravanan , have a good day ahead!

5:45:12 PMYou've ended the chat.

Edit 2:

I've just read an article at ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com/article/iphone-and-android-wireless-charger-pads-which-one-is-the-best/) saying that the Samsung version of the Belkin Boost Up Wireless Charger WILL NOT charge the iPhone at 7.5W, despite supporting 15W of max output.

According to the article, Apple has created a new standard in the Wireless Power Consortium. The current WPC standard is the Qi 1.2.X, which supports 3 "profiles" of wireless charging: 5W, 9W and 15W. It looks like that just because the charger supports 9W or 15W, doesn't mean it'll support 7.5W.

It really seems that Apple has created the new 7.5W profile in the WPC standards and this maybe the reason why Belkin has 2 Boost Up wireless chargers: one for Samsung Galaxy S8 (5W, 9W and 15W output) and one for iPhones (5W and 7.5W).

That makes sense and is a plausible explanation for Belkin to create two different charges, one with 15W and another one with 7.5W.

 

[michael31986]

There’s a 15W Belkin wireless charger (also named “Boost Up”) not sold on Apple site. However, according to Belkin support, this one also supports 7.5W output for the new iPhones.

http://www.belkin.com/us/F7U014-Belkin/p/P-F7U014/

Take a look at the questions from customers and the answers from Belkin support. According to Belkin, the white model (which outputs a maximum of 7.5W) has been made specifically for iPhones, hence its 7.5W output.

The other “Boost Up” model is titled as “for Samsung” and outputs 15W max. Belkin support answers expressly state that it supports 7.5W output for new iPhones. In other words, the black model, with 15W max output, is future proof.

Edit:

Here's my chat with Belkin support:

Spoiler

Saravanan E

Hello David Cavalcante. My name is Saravanan.
Thank you for choosing Belkin chat support. Is this your first time to contact Belkin or do you have a case number?

5:22:41 PM
Me
This is my first contact

5:22:49 PM
Saravanan E
How may I help you today?

5:23:06 PM
Me
I've recently acquired an iPhone 8 and have just installed iOS 11.2 update

5:23:50 PM
I'm looking for a wireless charger and noticed that Belkin has two "Boost Up" wireless chargers, one white (7.5W output) and another one black (15W output)

5:24:33 PM
The white one is specifically made for iPhones 8, 8 Plus and X, while the black (15W) is titled as "for Samsung"

5:24:52 PM
My question is: can I buy the black one (15W)? Will it output 7.5W for my iPhone 8? If I want to charge my phone at 7.5W, do I have to buy the white one, specifically made for iPhones and that outputs 7.5W max?

5:25:47 PM
Saravanan E
Can you please help me with the model number of the devices?

5:27:23 PM
Me
F7U014dqSLV (black, "for Samsung", 15W max output)

5:27:52 PM
F7U027dqWHT (white, "for iPhone", 7.5W max output)

5:28:05 PM
Saravanan E
Could you please give me few minutes, so that I can check with my resources and let you know?

5:28:31 PM
Me
Ok

5:28:36 PM
Saravanan E
Thank you.

5:28:44 PM
Thank you for your patience and time.

5:35:36 PM
Both the models are compatible with Iphone 8. Model F7U014 supports upto 15W so it is capable of supplying 7.5W to your phone.

5:37:16 PM
Me
That's great. So the F7U014 is future proof

5:37:49 PM
I believe the F7U027 model has been made after the F7U014. If the 15W is better, why exactly has Belkin made the 7.5W model?

5:38:43 PM
Saravanan E
Model F7U027 is compatible only with iPhone X
iPhone 8 Plus , iPhone 8. Model F7U014 is also compatible with samsung.

5:41:19 PM
Me
I see. I just don't get why Belkin made a model specific for iPhones with smaller wattage output, when there's already one compatible with every Qi phone and higher wattage output, that's also compatible with iPhones.

5:42:22 PM
Anyway, companies have their reasons and looks like Apple has asked Belkin to make an iPhone specific model.

5:42:54 PM
Saravanan E
Is there anything else I can assist you with?

5:44:11 PM
Me
Nope. Thank you very much.

5:45:05 PM
Saravanan E
Thank you for choosing Belkin live chat support, you were chatting with Saravanan , have a good day ahead!

5:45:12 PMYou've ended the chat.

so apple made QI chargers specific to fast charging. thats stupid.. how are you going to open qi to everyone, but only the faster charging of it to some.

 

[davidcmc]

so apple made QI chargers specific to fast charging. thats stupid.. how are you going to open qi to everyone, but only the faster charging of it to some.

According to Belkin support, the Boost Up 15W (black color) model also supports 7.5W with the new iPhones.

 

[powerocool]

This concludes my testing.

Anker 10W charger will charge iPhone X at 5W, never 7.5W.

11.2 final. Under 50% charge. Both 5V and 9V chargers.

 

[michael31986]

This concludes my testing.

Anker 10W charger will charge iPhone X at 5W, never 7.5W.

11.2 final. Under 50% charge. Both 5V and 9V chargers.

Someone needs to open the Belkin and morphie and see what allows them to charger faster. Has to be a chip or something

 

[Cyroceon]

Someone needs to open the Belkin and morphie and see what allows them to charger faster. Has to be a chip or something

Probably software-related, rather than chipset-based.

 

[michael31986]

Probably software-related, rather than chipset-based.

Yea but how would it know. Damn it apple. So literally only morphie and Belkin is known to work. Probably not s huge difference

 

[Unprocessed1]

Ugh. Really like the feel and weight of the RavPower charging pad, but now thinking about returning it to Amazon and getting a Morphie instead which also has a solid feel.

 

[puckhead193]

well the Raw power is on sale i don't think they can continue to sell it for $50 now that it won't "fast charge" the iPhone. May as well buy the mophie if that's the case.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075FHY8MB?tag=ravwireless041-20

 

[djdownhill]

I got this one from Amazon. It was like $15 with a lightning deal at the time.

I got silver because in my opinion it looks nicer then black and matches my phone. Came with only the charger and micro USB cable. I paired it with a 12W iPad charger I had lying around. Works great. It is as wide as the X but like 1 1/2 inches shorter. It charger both vertical an horizontal for both the X and 8+

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZ6S1D7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On a side not. I'm taking the X back as it developed a spot on the camera? No scratches, water stains, lint, or dust under the lens?

 

[Susurs]

Someone needs to open the Belkin and morphie and see what allows them to charger faster. Has to be a chip or something

Is it still 5% in 10 minutes?

 

[MJedi]

I have the Samsung Wireless Charging Stand (Fast Charge) and the Mophie Wireless Charging Base. Here are the results of a 10-minute test with my iPhone X.

Samsung: 34% to 39% in 10 minutes.
Mophie: 37% to 44% in 10 minutes.

 

[Susurs]

One other thing is that I like to use wireless charging stands, where I can better see what happens on the screen on my phone... There are no offers for such products with Apple ‘7.5W’ support....