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Oohara

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I'll agree that the adjustment slider can be a little finicky--don't lift your finger off perfectly and the setting can wobble a bit. However, when I touch the slider to adjust the brightness, the dimming prompted by opening Control Center goes away and is replaced by the true screen brightness, for as long as my finger is on the slider. Is it not doing this for you?

Ah damn you're right! I didn't realise that's what it was doing, thanks for pointing that out :) That's why I thought the brightness was changing so dramatically when I released my finger - it was actually going back from the true brightness to the dimmed screen. My bad.

Having tested again knowing this, ofc this works much better but I would prefer if it didn't dim the top portion of the screen in the first case. All that back and forth between brightness values makes it hard to remember the original level and thus harder to calibrate. Will get better as I get more used to it though I'm sure.

Forgive me in case anything has changed as it's been a few months since I've used Android with any regularity but doesn't the notification/quick settings panel fill the entire screen when pulled down? Wouldn't it then obscure whatever you were watching?

It does, but I like that the video continues anyway, it makes for a more seamless experience imo. And when following a live stream sometimes you can't pause anyway, so having the settings operation pause it automatically would simply mean a few seconds missed when you could at least have followed the sound. For vids, I just pause then change the brightness if I don't want to miss any of the visuals.

Determining the right brightness level still works well despite the actual video picture being obscured - since the brightness value doesn't change when I pull down the shade, I can still determine the right relative brightness change by seeing how much the light in the notifications shade changes.

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The notification shade hides once you move the brightness bar allowing you to see whatever is on the screen, at least on L.

That's very nice, didn't know this. What I was describing above is how it is on my Note 2.
 

tys

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Jan 3, 2008
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I bought both an iPhone 6 and Sony Xperia z3 and have been keeping a tally of pros and cons while deciding which to keep.
Here's a partial list of Sony pluses, obviously not all will apply to every Android phone.

Use it in the rain, tub, etc without worry.
Use two SIMs
SD card slot
Do cool NFC stuff other than just Apple Pay.
Great power saving features
Glove mode: touch screen works with winter gloves on!
"Soft" buttons. I hate having to constantly press physical buttons. iPhone home buttons start to fail after a couple years IME.
Home button actually takes you to home page!
Great settings/customizing, essentially comes pre-jailbroken. You can install any app you want, not just Play Store Apps.
Apple actively fights jailbreak, while Sony actually has a page on their website to help you do it!
Download pretty much anything.
Set any browser, mail reader, etc as the default.
Front stereo Speakers
Not have apps, web pages constantly reload due to insufficient RAM. (My 6 Plus only has 1GB, same as my two year old iPhone 5, while most top android phones have 2-3GB I think)
 

mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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While XBMC is a great option you don't even need it to stream content off of your PC. With a good file explorer and player like Solid Explorer and MX Player Pro you stream media over a choice of SMB/CIFS, WebDAV (http) or FTP transport protocols which are all available on Windows 8.1. On a device like the Note 3 with 802.11ac it can transcode 4K videos without issue.
 

lympero

macrumors 6502a
Sep 1, 2008
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While XBMC is a great option you don't even need it to stream content off of your PC. With a good file explorer and player like Solid Explorer and MX Player Pro you stream media over a choice of SMB/CIFS, WebDAV (http) or FTP transport protocols which are all available on Windows 8.1. On a device like the Note 3 with 802.11ac it can transcode 4K videos without issue.

Xbmc with navi -x streaming from my network hdd.
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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I think launchers helped with my experience with Android early on. It reminded me of the Customize app during my early iPhone jailbreaking days back in 2008. I started off using the simple Zeam Launcher. Then went to Holo/Holo Plus before settling with Nova Prime because of its swipe gestures and stability. The ability to change transition animations, hiding apps, lock desktop so apps wouldn't move, edit app names, change icons, and so on. Figuring out how to use a launcher helped me realize how much flexibility I wanted my OS to be like.

Then when Ice Cream Sandwich came around, it just jumpstarted everything for me. The animations were fast and fluid. Gingerbread & ICS were like night & day. I also need to credit Qualcomm and MediaTek esp the former. I wasn't a firm believer yet with Snapdragon until the 800 series. They generally do make better SoC than MediaTek and is why their SoC is generally standard on most flagships. But MediaTek still offers them cheaper for the obscure brands which keeps phone prices down.

Still I prefer Snapdragons since MediaTek at octa-core is still laggy and GPU performance is no match. Very hard to find a smartphone with a Snapdragon 800 or 801 under $300 unless it is OnePlus One or Xiaomi Mi 3 or 4. Some of Qualcomm's own innovations is what pushed Android over the top for me. Only Androids I will purchase from now on will need to have a heart of a dragon..
 

pdqgp

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Mar 23, 2010
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Show all notifications AND Widgets with a simple pull down. Android requires widgets to be displayed on the screens. They do offer notifications on Android, but full widgets from any app from a simple pull down from the top....not that I'm aware of, but I reserve the right to be wrong so I can install that feature.

Found the Android solution. Notification Toggle Brings all apps and what not to the Android notification area.

This is one of the main reason why I left iOS...because if you can think of something you want on Android, chances are there's an app for that which allows you to do what you want vs having to wait for the OS developer to decide it's okay.

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jmckever

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Aug 3, 2018
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With iOS8 and all the new features, just curious what advantage Android would have.
too many to name lol 1-expandable storage,dowload from the internet,true multitasking.
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This is pretty cool. Just wish iTunes was faster. My new nMP is the only thing that makes iTunes speed tolerable. Using my wife's 2010 iMac and opening iTunes is aggravating.
itunes suck plus if have cds that you have purchased and have saved on your computer u cant tranfer them to your iphone smh
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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UK
too many to name lol 1-expandable storage,dowload from the internet,true multitasking.
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itunes suck plus if have cds that you have purchased and have saved on your computer u cant tranfer them to your iphone smh
Connecting external devices via the USB port, VR, turning your phone/tablet into a desktop computer. Having different profiles/log ins on your phone, dual apps, Dual sim. Having your phone stay unlocked if you are in a trusted location, connected to a trusted WiFi network or device.
 
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jmckever

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Aug 3, 2018
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Connecting external devices via the USB port, VR, turning your phone/tablet into a desktop computer. Having different profiles/log ins on your phone, dual apps, Dual sim.
yes the dual apps also being able to lock your photos and lock individual apps
 

Oohara

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too many to name lol 1-expandable storage,dowload from the internet,true multitasking.
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itunes suck plus if have cds that you have purchased and have saved on your computer u cant tranfer them to your iphone smh
Replying to a four year old comment about something being slow, high five man.
 

Macalicious2011

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May 15, 2011
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London
CarPlay is limited to cars that support it.

Android Auto however is an app that can launch automatically when you connect to your car via Bluetooth. Thus, you can use your big screen phone as a cutting edge infotainment in an old car or a rental.

Steering wheel controls are supported and more than often the voice assist on the steering wheel can be used to activate Google Assist.

If you need to exit Android Auto while using navigation, it's enters picture in picture mode so that you don't miss a turn.
 
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Ralfi

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Dec 22, 2016
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Android Auto however is an app that can launch automatically when you connect to your car via Bluetooth. Thus, you can use your big screen phone as a cutting edge infotainment in an old car or a rental.

Is that right? Always thought Android Auto & CarPlay needed to be built into the cars infotainment systems. There you go.
 

Macalicious2011

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Is that right? Always thought Android Auto & CarPlay needed to be built into the cars infotainment systems. There you go.

Yupp that's right. Android Auto is an app. So even if you are an iPhone user you can simply pick up an old Samsung Note from eBay, chuck a data sim in it and use it as the infotainment in an older car or a newer one with a terrible infotainment.
 
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mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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Nice capability if you want to play a retro game or do data recovery/conversion.

 

Macalicious2011

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May 15, 2011
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Two more two add.

1. Change WiFi network without having to go into settings.

2. Cast a video to the TV without the video being interrupted if you get a call, lose wifi connection, visit a website with autoplay video ads or watch a different video on your phone.
 
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Tsepz

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Jan 24, 2013
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So many simple things that iOS cannot do like:

- Allow sharing of a WiFi connection
- WiFi Data Usage management and Network management e.g. adjusting how it can use certain networks like Hotspots vs. other WiFi Networks
- Still not allowing iOS updates to be done via 3G/4G last I checked on my iPad.
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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So many simple things that iOS cannot do like:

- Allow sharing of a WiFi connection
- WiFi Data Usage management and Network management e.g. adjusting how it can use certain networks like Hotspots vs. other WiFi Networks
- Still not allowing iOS updates to be done via 3G/4G last I checked on my iPad.
How do you share a WiFi connection?
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
So many simple things that iOS cannot do like:

- Allow sharing of a WiFi connection
- WiFi Data Usage management and Network management e.g. adjusting how it can use certain networks like Hotspots vs. other WiFi Networks
- Still not allowing iOS updates to be done via 3G/4G last I checked on my iPad.
Why would you ever need to share a wifi connection? I can see turning your device in to a mobile hotspot, which any phone in the last 15 years can do, but I don't see the utility of sharing a wifi connection.
 

Tsepz

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Jan 24, 2013
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Why would you ever need to share a wifi connection? I can see turning your device in to a mobile hotspot, which any phone in the last 15 years can do, but I don't see the utility of sharing a wifi connection.
I use it to sometimes increase signal of our router in dead spots of our house where my mother's iPhone X for example tends to lose signal, I have my old S7 Edge working as a signal extender, sharing it's WiFi connection to our router with her iPhone X. It also comes in handy if I want to ensure I control a guest's WiFi access at home or at work e.g. if a freelancer or client comes in and requires WiFi yet does not have a profile in our network I am authorised to setup a connection for them and I usually just set my phone or laptop up to share the WiFi connection, as the Guest WiFi is horribly slow.

Very useful feature. :)
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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UK
I use it to sometimes increase signal of our router in dead spots of our house where my mother's iPhone X for example tends to lose signal, I have my old S7 Edge working as a signal extender, sharing it's WiFi connection to our router with her iPhone X. It also comes in handy if I want to ensure I control a guest's WiFi access at home or at work e.g. if a freelancer or client comes in and requires WiFi yet does not have a profile in our network I am authorised to setup a connection for them and I usually just set my phone or laptop up to share the WiFi connection, as the Guest WiFi is horribly slow.

Very useful feature. :)
It is. My wifi is iffy in the kitchen and bathroom and out in the garden it doesn't work point blank.

I could see it being useful if you went camping or something too.
 
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