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LizKat

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Bought a load of heavy books on Africa, the Horn of Africa and related matters.

It's the first continent I read about lately when I hit up the FT in the morning. To say more would politicize this thread but I might post something over in PRSI later that I found interesting, about some African officials' thinking on relationships of foreign investment, government finances and the challenges of climate change.

:D We should have a thread in PRSI like "what political or history books are you reading" to make life either simpler or much more ... lively... :rolleyes:
 
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A Forest of Stars by Kevin J. Anderson. Book 2 of the Saga of Seven Suns. Good SF by a great author.

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I've come across that before. Are you... going vegan?

The first three pages read like some graduates from Marine boot camp home on leave before first deployment and convinced they're now free to use the F-bomb in all its principal parts in every single sentence and their mothers can't stop them even at the dinner table.

If I were to go vegan that would not be the approach that sold it in for me, even if a union plumber and a dockworker taught me how to curse when I'm really annoyed. Time and place for everything. I like my cookbooks to let me do the cursing.
 
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The first three pages read like some graduates from Marine boot camp home on leave before first deployment and convinced they're now free to use the F-bomb in all its principal parts in every single sentence and their mothers can't stop them even at the dinner table.

If I were to go vegan that would not be the approach that sold it in for me, even if a union plumber and a dockworker taught me how to curse when I'm really annoyed. Time and place for everything. I like my cookbooks to let me do the cursing.
The only time I've cursed while cooking was during my early days in cooking... when I was trying out candy making. Young me was a fool to think you could very well bubble up anything in a small pot. Big pots are good pots.
 

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The first three pages read like some graduates from Marine boot camp home on leave before first deployment and convinced they're now free to use the F-bomb in all its principal parts in every single sentence and their mothers can't stop them even at the dinner table.

If I were to go vegan that would not be the approach that sold it in for me, even if a union plumber and a dockworker taught me how to curse when I'm really annoyed. Time and place for everything. I like my cookbooks to let me do the cursing.

Having a well developed sense of humor keeps one sane.
 

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Having a well developed sense of humor keeps one sane.

I have one... but the constant F-bomb in anyone's writing or speech (or script in a movie) does wear me down. It took me a few tries to become inured enough to the boring repetition of f-bomb and similar obscene language to be able to appreciate the movie Goodfelllas. Similarly with the TV series The Wire, which I really liked -- but I found myself thinking "yeah this is after all more or less what I heard when I was walking along West 108th to get my car from the garage... but must I have it in my entertainment too?" I guess the answer there was yes, at least for that series, but I still draw the line somewhere before cookbooks... enjoy it though if the recipes are good!
 
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I have one... but the constant F-bomb in anyone's writing or speech (or script in a movie) does wear me down. It took me a few tries to become inured enough to the boring repetition of f-bomb and similar obscene language to be able to appreciate the movie Goodfelllas. Similarly with the TV series The Wire, which I really liked -- but I found myself thinking "yeah this is after all more or less what I heard when I was walking along West 108th to get my car from the garage... but must I have it in my entertainment too?" I guess the answer there was yes, at least for that series, but I still draw the line somewhere before cookbooks... enjoy it though if the recipes are good!

I’m sure you have a sense of humor. Not all humor is meant for all people. The title and the cover was a dead giveaway of the voice the writer(s) were intending to use. The satire cracked me up.
 

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Two from the library, about World War I

Christopher Clark -- The Sleepwalkers: how Europe went to war in 1914

Margaret MacMillan -- The war that ended peace: the road to 1914


Both titles essentially suggest one of the epigraphs MacMillan used:

There have been as many plagues as wars in history; yet
always wars and plagues take people equally by surprise.

-- Albert Camus, in his novel The Plague
 

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Two from the library, about World War I

Christopher Clark -- The Sleepwalkers: how Europe went to war in 1914

Margaret MacMillan -- The war that ended peace: the road to 1914


Both titles essentially suggest one of the epigraphs MacMillan used:

There have been as many plagues as wars in history; yet
always wars and plagues take people equally by surprise.

-- Albert Camus, in his novel The Plague

A lot of very good material has been published about WW1 over the past few years, and I've read both books; the are excellent.
 

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Just finished Fall of Giants, part 1 of The Century Trilogy by Ken Follet, starting in the early 20th Century, Europe and US, just prior to WWI, excellent. Yes, it took me forever. On to part 2, Winter of the World.

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LizKat

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A lot of very good material has been published about WW1 over the past few years, and I've read both books; the are excellent.

There are indeed so many books and articles about it. I'm forever thinking "OK I'm done with WWI once I read this last book"... but of course how I got to "this last book" was usually by reference in some footnote in the previous book I'd read... and of course I will read the footnotes in these two books as well, so... breadcrumb trails to the next books,,,, I haz dem.

That war was called The Great War (in our too brief ignorance after its end) but I'm starting to think of it as the endless one :rolleyes: even if pursuing the history of its origins is by my own choice. I need to leave time, sadly enough, for understanding more of the great and "minor" wars that have ensued.

Next up for me are some books about the Bangladesh Liberation War. First along that line is Gary Bass' book Blood Telegram. The title refers to the cable from Archer Blood, then consul general in Dacca (now Dhaka), that was signed by 20 US diplomatic staff. It dissented strongly from Nixon-Kissinger policy, which in its anti-Communist zeal and distaste for India's politics of the era, had sided with Pakistan in ignoring the slaughter of Bengalis in East Pakistan. I plan to read Archer Blood's memoir of the era as well.

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But meanwhile I have embarked on reading Hicham Matar's memoir The Return, a wrenching account of separation, exile, search and half-mourning for a lost father. Matar was born in NYC, lived in Libya and then in Cairo as a child, was educated in England and now divides his time between London and New York where he has taught at Barnard. The book won the 2017 Pulitzer for biography or autobiography. The author's father was an outspoken Libyan dissident and activist against Qaddafi; he was abducted in Cairo in 1990 by Egyptian secret service agents, handed over to the Libyan government and imprisoned at the notorious Abu Salim prison in Tripoli.

The father apparently survived the 1996 slaughter of more than a thousand political prisoners, as there was word in 2002 that he had been seen in a different and secret prison, alive but frail. In interviews, Hicham Matar has said that after the fall of Qaddafi, it was when the remaining political prisoners were all released but his father was not among them that acknowledgment of his dad's death began to seem inescapable. He did return to Libya in 2012 and saw extended family members who had survived imprisonment, but the window was closing on free movement even then as the Islamic State gained strength, and he left Libya behind for what he has seemed to decide was the last time.

In encountering one reference to a older cousin of Matar's, a guy who had been imprisoned for dissidence in the mid 1970s for several years, I was stunned to think about what it would be like to grow up where for most of your life your family was subject to kidnapping or imprisonment and death for having expressed political views. Even as a child the author experienced times with his father when it was clear they were being stalked while living in Libya or later in exile, and he was cautioned not to look around at the followers, not to acknowledge his real name if someone called out to him and so forth. One begins to understand the idea that there's no such thing really as "going back" to places of the heart when they must be remembered so differently after changes like that have taken place.
 
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There are indeed so many books and articles about it. I'm forever thinking "OK I'm done with WWI once I read this last book"... but of course how I got to "this last book" was usually by reference in some footnote in the previous book I'd read... and of course I will read the footnotes in these two books as well, so... breadcrumb trails to the next books,,,, I haz dem.

That war was called The Great War (in our too brief ignorance after its end) but I'm starting to think of it as the endless one :rolleyes: even if pursuing the history of its origins is by my own choice. I need to leave time, sadly enough, for understanding more of the great and "minor" wars that have ensued.

Next up for me are some books about the Bangladesh Liberation War. First along that line is Gary Bass' book Blood Telegram. The title refers to the cable from Archer Blood, then consul general in Dacca (now Dhaka), that was signed by 20 US diplomatic staff. It dissented strongly from Nixon-Kissinger policy, which in its anti-Communist zeal and distaste for India's politics of the era, had sided with Pakistan in ignoring the slaughter of Bengalis in East Pakistan. I plan to read Archer Blood's memoir of the era as well.

===

But meanwhile I have embarked on reading Hicham Matar's memoir The Return, a wrenching account of separation, exile, search and half-mourning for a lost father. Matar was born in NYC, lived in Libya and then in Cairo as a child, was educated in England and now divides his time between London and New York where he has taught at Barnard. The book won the 2017 Pulitzer for biography or autobiography. The author's father was an outspoken Libyan dissident and activist against Qaddafi; he was abducted in Cairo in 1990 by Egyptian secret service agents, handed over to the Libyan government and imprisoned at the notorious Abu Salim prison in Tripoli.

The father apparently survived the 1996 slaughter of more than a thousand political prisoners, as there was word in 2002 that he had been seen in a different and secret prison, alive but frail. In interviews, Hicham Matar has said that after the fall of Qaddafi, it was when the remaining political prisoners were all released but his father was not among them that acknowledgment of his dad's death began to seem inescapable. He did return to Libya in 2012 and saw extended family members who had survived imprisonment, but the window was closing on free movement even then as the Islamic State gained strength, and he left Libya behind for what he has seemed to decide was the last time.

In encountering one reference to a older cousin of Matar's, a guy who had been imprisoned for dissidence in the mid 1970s for several years, I was stunned to think about what it would be like to grow up where for most of your life your family was subject to kidnapping or imprisonment and death for having expressed political views. Even as a child the author experienced times with his father when it was clear they were being stalked while living in Libya or later in exile, and he was cautioned not to look around at the followers, not to acknowledge his real name if someone called out to him and so forth. One begins to understand the idea that there's no such thing really as "going back" to places of the heart when they must be remembered so differently after changes like that have taken place.

Sounds absolutely fascinating, and a book I must make time to read.

There is an excellent chapter on Libya (with references to that massacre) in Paul Kenyon's book "Dictatorland".
 
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Forging the Darksword on audiobook. A so-so light fantasy book. Waaaay too descriptive to my taste, and feels like a rehash of their Dark Gate Cycle books, so I won't be picking up the sequel.

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Gardens of the Moon on paperback. Got 1/3 through it as an audiobook, but have to give up. It is way to densely written, so I lost too many details listening while working. Quite a good book if you're into epic fantasy, and *very* well written. Will definitely go for the sequel.
 

LizKat

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Hi to everyone! I’m reading books by Ayn Rend and m absolutely excited about them!

Well hi there. The publisher of Ayn Rand's books would be even more excited if ... well never mind. Good to know you find the books exciting. If we're going to get into details we probably need to wait until you have enough posts to continue the conversation somewhere in the political sub-forums. But welcome to the books thread!

Today I'm taking a break from all the history-related nonfiction I've been reading lately and instead reading a book by Langdon Cook about salmon: catching them, and cooking them!

The book's title is Upstream: Searching for Wild Salmon, from River to Table. Some asides about the politics of fish management and conflicts with mining interests are adding to my education as well. Some of the adventures are well inland, since after all rainbow and steelhead trout are part of the salmon family... I'm having fun and getting hungry. Here the trout season has opened but we're gonna have to settle for brown trout if we can even find anyone willing to gear up for fishing. We are still waking up to discover that it's only 12ºF out there with traces of snow along the creek beds. Where oh where is true spring??!

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I started "My Lobotomy" by Howard Dully recently but was pulled away by work. With the snow on the ground and some of the projects finally coming to a close, I may pick it back up again. It's a fascinating memoir about a young boy who had a lobotomy performed on him because he was basically an unruly kid. It chronicles his life. True and incredible story.
 
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From the books I acquired a couple weeks ago, I've decided to read Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared Diamond, a work that attempts to answer the question of why Eurasian societies advanced at a much more rapid rate than societies in other parts of the world, and why they eventually came to dominate the rest of the world (presenting a thesis not dependent on genetic superiority of Europeans, the explanation popular in 19th century).

I'm also reading, for a linguistics course, Ergativity by R.M.W. Dixon, a scholarly portrait of ergative alignment and the languages that exhibit such an alignment, viz. many Australian aboriginal languages. Ergativity is a syntactic alignment scheme wherein the subject of a transitive verb is marked apart from other nominal arguments, contrary to what occurs in English and most European languages where it's the transitive object that's set apart (either by case or word order). If English had ergative alignment, we would have sentences like "He hit me" and "Him went to the store". Interesting stuff :D
 
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