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Amethyst1

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[…] like if the connection is there your Rpi desktop just suddenly pops up on your laptop screen???
X forwarding requires an X server listening for incoming connections. OS X doesn’t install an X server by default. So you need to install one. I’ll see whether I can give this a try. :)
 
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I've got a habit to use time command when starting some big emerge :).
I'm going to be slapping Bedrock on top, so big emerges will be few and far between methinks.

update: It turns out the only supported stratum on Bedrock is Gentoo, so that didn't get me very far. Perhaps I should've started with Debian instead.
 
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mortlocli

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X forwarding requires an X server listening for incoming connections. OS X doesn’t install an X server by default. So you need to install one. I’ll see whether I can give this a try. :)
I just found X11 is what Apple shipped with OS X versions 10.5 through 10.7??

Ive since got rpi access (ie terminal mode) via my iMac but using wifi...Im still trying out stuff on this..and learning.

An interesting direction I also found was the use of a RPi Zero set up to work thru the usb on a windows laptop.
 
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Amethyst1

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I just found X11 is what Apple shipped with OS X versions 10.5 through 10.7??
IIRC X11 began shipping with OS X 10.3. Once you have it installed (if you're running Leopard, XQuartz 2.6.3 is newer than Apple's X11), try ssh'ing into the Pi using ssh -X user@IP, which enables X11 forwarding over ssh. Then, running any GUI application from the ssh connection should™ display it on the Mac. But you won't get a full desktop this way (you can set it up though). X11 forwarding is also very bandwidth-intensive.

Since the Pi’s Debian distro also comes with VNC which uses compression and is much less bandwidth-intensive, you might want to give that a try instead. This will give you a full desktop out of the box, unlike per-application X11 forwarding. Use raspi-config via ssh to enable and configure VNC (remember to downgrade security under the "Authenticating to VNC server" paragraph), and then use either Leopard's built-in VNC client (Finder: Go to > Connect to Server > enter vnc://IP) or another VNC client, e.g. Chicken.
 
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mortlocli

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IIRC X11 began shipping with OS X 10.3. Once you have it installed (if you're running Leopard, XQuartz 2.6.3 is newer than Apple's X11), try ssh'ing into the Pi using ssh -X user@IP, which enables X11 forwarding over ssh. Then, running any GUI application from the ssh connection should™ display it on the Mac. But you won't get a full desktop this way (you can set it up though). X11 forwarding is also very bandwidth-intensive.

Since the Pi’s Debian distro also comes with VNC which uses compression and is much less bandwidth-intensive, you might want to give that a try instead. This will give you a full desktop out of the box, unlike per-application X11 forwarding. Use raspi-config via ssh to enable and configure VNC (remember to downgrade security under the "Authenticating to VNC server" paragraph), and then use either Leopard's built-in VNC client (Finder: Go to > Connect to Server > enter vnc://IP) or another VNC client, e.g. Chicken.
Ta Ame...just found out about that ssh -X factor, but have yet to try it..does sound promising though.
 
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ww2_1943

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I'm doing the PowerPC Challenge a whole month and a half after everybody else did, but I'm also thoroughly documenting it on my blog.

The opening bit is spicy.
It’s fairly simple to set up iCloud email on old clients. I have it synced to Mail on my Power Mac G5 running Sorbet.
Gmail will work in HTML like you pointed out. I actually don’t mind it. It reminds me of how e-mail used to work!

I can access OneDrive without issue on my G5. I can even use the in browser editor (it’s really slow though and uses a lot of resources so I don’t recommend it.) I can also access most of my iCloud.

I want to do the PPC challenge but I realized it wouldn’t be much of a challenge with my G5. If I used a PPC laptop at work, I could access most of what I need in Sorbet. Without an updated web browser, I couldn’t operate on OS 9 which really would have been a challenge.

On another note, I’m designing a poster for a presentation using Adobe InDesign on my G5. Not because I’m trying to challenge myself, but rather I don’t want to pay for Adobe and this version will handle what I need without an issue.
 

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It’s fairly simple to set up iCloud email on old clients. I have it synced to Mail on my Power Mac G5 running Sorbet.
Gmail will work in HTML like you pointed out. I actually don’t mind it. It reminds me of how e-mail used to work!

I can access OneDrive without issue on my G5. I can even use the in browser editor (it’s really slow though and uses a lot of resources so I don’t recommend it.) I can also access most of my iCloud.

I want to do the PPC challenge but I realized it wouldn’t be much of a challenge with my G5. If I used a PPC laptop at work, I could access most of what I need in Sorbet. Without an updated web browser, I couldn’t operate on OS 9 which really would have been a challenge.
Despite being a habitual Linux user normally, I'm well-engrained in Office 365. Meaning OneDrive is my cloud, and Outlook is my email. OneDrive is a non-issue as I've had that on a network share for years. Outlook, on the other hand, is a bit of a struggle, particularly as my MS account has gone passwordless. But, I can still coerce Outlook into playing nice with something like Entourage 2008 microsoft how dare you not put office 2011 on powerpc.

My big major issue right now is that Bitwarden is my password manager, and it will not play ball with any browser I throw at it.
 
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urbanman2004

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I made a tutorial a/b mine:
 
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Doq

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I took a look at your blog.... about discord... it is still possible without cheating. You're just limited to 1 app that still works out of the box. It's only does text chat, no voice or video, but it works well enough. See here and here.
Before I started, I actually looked at bitlbee on my regular box and I couldn't get it to play nicely at all with my Discord account. I wonder if it's 2FA-related. Would be much easier if I could just throw a token at it a la other clients, alas, no dice. VNC bodge it is.

How did you get outlook to work? Do you use an app specific password? That’s the tick to getting iCloud to work with Mail.
Correct.
 
What I’ve done with a PowerPC Mac today is a thing I first tried on a C2D MBP running Snow Leopard: make iTunes 10 dark using this old hack (by way of DeviantArt) and the OnyX “high contrast mode” toggle.

The PowerPC to take on this experiment, intended for Lion 10.7 running iTunes 10: the SL-PPC box running the last known stable build of iTunes on Build 10A96 (10.4.1), obviously. It’s tough to pass up a new way to break things. :)

The results [Figure 1] were basically identical to what I was seeing on 10.6.8 running iTunes 10.6.3 [Figure 2]. Amazingly, it didn’t crash, despite its inherent delicateness in this oddball environment.

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Figure 1. iTunes 10.4.1 on Build 10A96 of a Clouded Leopard, tweaked with Silent Night for iTunes 10 and OnyX “high-contrast”


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Figure 2. iTunes 10.6.3 on Mac OS X !0.6.8, on a MacBook Pro 17, tweaked with the same two things.


The most apparent of those results is the low contrast inside the play details area, as the un-altered text is unchanged from the default grey. This doesn’t do well against a darker grey beneath.

The other annoyances which the above linked post didn’t bring up (but not things I care for) are UI elements which were changed to “Lionize” (well, “Marbleize”) it: tiny traffic light buttons (which stay dark grey on mouseOver, ugh and ugh); removal of the round, skeuromorphic volume slider; list sliders being ultra-skinny and hard to grab; and, frankly, play control buttons and the search window being squared off.

The OnyX thing I‘ve never liked feels more obvious here: the lack of alternating shading between each media line. But I guess this counts as working successfully on a temporal, pre-10.5.8 build of OS X running a not-final version of iTunes 10.

If there was a way to improve the play window contrast, to tweak (without owning the CD-ROM-mail-order-only USD$256 Resourcerer, last updated in 2005) those Marbleized elements back to Aqua-compliant elements (whilst preserving the all-dark effect), and a high-contrast dark mode which has contrasting bars between media items, then I could live with this (and it would be especially handy in low light settings).

I mean, it’s OK, but I’m not sure I’d think of it as very elegant (it really isn’t, but A- for the DeviantArt tweaker for giving it the good, game try). But at least both tweaks function together in even the most uncommon of unsupported (or, unsupported²) PowerPC circumstances. Who knew?

And so this, uh, concludes my 3,000th betch-kvetch-a-fest here on the MR forums.
 
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Certificate of Excellence

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If I was a bit more confident I'd do the same as well. lol
With the 17" models, luckily there is a bunch of room to work on them as you disassemble unlike the 12" which are a giant cramped PITA hot mess. The one point with the 17s that cannot be understated is that the black thermal compound Apple used on these is like absolute glue. You will break the logic board before you get the lobo off the heatsink (which is directly connected to the case chassis) unless you first hit the back side of the unit with a couple minutes of blow dryer set on HOT air. This is necessary for a smooth removal IME. Do this and the logic board will lift off after some mild to moderate prying. Without it, you'll break the logicboard.

A very easy but absolutely vital step when disassembling a 17" Powerbook. With this in mind, go pull yours apart for some maintenance and do whatcha gotta do. Take the time to buy a $1.25 icecube tray or screw organizer from Dollar Tree to keep your screw steps organized & use ifixit for the steps if you're not familiar with what screws go where. :)
 
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mortlocli

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Installed 'Shuriken' on my iBook today.
Gee - the amount of work that z970 must have put into this is amazing...and kinda feels like being a kid at Xmas with a new toy.
The included 'app store' makes good stuff so available.
Ok..so like Sorbet but smaller..and I dunno...kinda fun!

Been mucking about with Virtual PC trying out small linux distributions from Linux Magazine Dvds...ok - so no roaring success so far..but still got a few to try.
 

Doq

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Day 3

So it turns out that Microsoft got with the times and now only the latest in TLS technology can communicate with Outlook servers.

Anyone remember what that email proxy was called? I'm drawing several blanks and my Google-fu is failing me.
 
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Eriamjh1138@DAN

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I picked up a dead Quad G5 for $60 on Saturday and have been cleaning it up and tearing it down to get to the root a the problem: a dead power supply. So far, it looks like the bridge rectifier inside is shorted on the AC side, which is why the inline fuse blew. I hope that is it because it's packed tight and not easy to get to everything. I could not find any documentation on this PS from Lite-ON. All the ones everyone is selling are the acBel version.
 

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MarkC426

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I picked up a dead Quad G5 for $60 on Saturday and have been cleaning it up and tearing it down to get to the root a the problem: a dead power supply. So far, it looks like the bridge rectifier inside is shorted on the AC side, which is why the inline fuse blew. I hope that is it because it's packed tight and not easy to get to everything. I could not find any documentation on this PS from Lite-ON. All the ones everyone is selling are the acBel version.
I am glad YOU know what your doing.
I would have a couple of pieces left over if I had it stripped down like that....😁
 
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