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TheShortTimer

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Still, I don’t yet know how, if possible, to request 2K+ clips (like 1440p and up) to be pulled down with MPEG-4 codec and not the newer, more limited vp9 codec (which, for now, only VLC seems to know how to deal with it). Frankly, if I could get PPCMC to succesfully grab MPEG-4-encoded videos from YT (and to error out if only a VP9 in a particular resolution is the only variant available), then that would be the best possible outcome.

Perhaps VP9 compatibility needs to be added to PPCMC? I've found the VP9 codec to be lighter on system resources than MPEG-4. For example, VP9 encoded UHD content performs much better on my 2011 i5 MBA eGPU set-up than the equivalent UHD MPEG-4 file does.

Last bit of PPC-related recent activity: I noticed macports seems to be finally letting go of supporting Tiger, on PowerPC (and possibly Tiger on Intel), as my last couple of efforts to update the iBook G3/466 have failed to build legacy-support (v1.1.1 seems to be where these troubles began).


So that’s a mild disappointment.

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Is there a way that we could take over Tiger PPC support? :)
 
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Perhaps VP9 compatibility needs to be added to PPCMC? I've found the VP9 codec to be lighter on system resources than MPEG-4. For example, VP9 encoded UHD content performs much better on my 2011 i5 MBA eGPU set-up than the equivalent UHD MPEG-4 file does.

Possibly. But VP9-codec mp4s will not play nicely on older hardware — namely, PowerPC Macs and iPod Classic/iPod nanos are what I’m thinking about here. VP9 and AV1 are the future (and the future is now, I reckon), but they also denote a functional bifurcation between gear/software able to work with them and everything which won’t.

Also, I found even VP9-encoded MP4s in High Sierra, on a late 2011 MBP, would not parse and playback in QuickLook.


Is there a way that we could take over Tiger PPC support? :)

I imagine so! To be honest, though, I’m unsure who here has space on their free time queue, much less the know-how, to keep it going.
 

840quadra

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Watched some of my old Steve Jobs collection on my PM G5 today. The intro to the G5 is still one of my favorite keynotes to watch. WWDC 2003.

While the system was up, I backed up and added some recently ripped music to my 3rd gen iPod. I had 4 albums that I encoded into AIFF on my Quadra 840av that I wanted to convert and copy to my iPod. Audio encoding is just so nice on that system, and the G5 compresses the files like a champ!

Also browsed Macrumors and a few text based tech news sites to keep up with recent reviews while watching the keynote and doing audio work.

System still is quite fast for the work I assigned to it.
 

Dronecatcher

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Still, I don’t yet know how, if possible, to request 2K+ clips (like 1440p and up) to be pulled down with MPEG-4 codec and not the newer, more limited vp9 codec
The 2K avc mp4 videos are format 400 - 4K are 401.
If you reverse engineer the main script in PPCMC7 you can copy the code and make individual scripts to download the 400 format video and mux it with 140 format audio.

I'm sure I made such a script for someone on here fairly recently but can't find it.
 

Ryan Bremer

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hosting a web radio station :D (hosted at http://17lifers.hopto.org:8080 if you want to listen)

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ToniCH

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Took out my iBook G4 first time for several months. But, it has forgotten date and time and does not remember wifi passwords. I read that it doesn't have a PRAM-battery but a capacitor.

Are these problems because the main battery was totally empty and the cap cannot keep it up for so long? Recharging it now. Its the original battery, only 34 load cycles, so very little use back in the day and it shows, the iBook looks almost like new. :cool:
 
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TheShortTimer

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Are these problems because the main battery was totally empty and the cap cannot keep it up for so long?

Yes, I too have encountered this with my iBooks that have flat batteries. I have to keep them connected to the mains otherwise they'll lose the time and date settings - but of course this is resolved as soon as they get back online. it's an annoying design choice by Apple considering that their rivals used a CMOS battery to retain this info regardless of the battery status.
 
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ToniCH

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but of course this is resolved as soon as they get back online.
Oh, BTW...mine didn't get back online right away. Originally it didn't get the IP from DHCP but only had the self assigned useless IP no matter what I tried. Only after recharging it for some time it finally got the IP and connected to internet. 🤐
 
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MarkC426

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Took out my iBook G4 first time for several months. But, it has forgotten date and time and does not remember wifi passwords. I read that it doesn't have a PRAM-battery but a capacitor.
I had this same thing, the other day.
Started up my G4PB after about 7 months......o_O

And unsurprisingly battery was flat so had to reset time/date etc.
 

Nightphase

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What have I done with a PowerPC Mac lately?

Well, after having it on my low-priority “tasks to do” list, I finally went back to — slooowly and carefully — patch PPCMC 7.2.6 to actually download videos from YT after being without a working PPCMC (on any machine) for the last several months (at least since March or April).

The test bed was my A1139 PowerBook G4.

It took a couple of hours of re-reading the discussion on here and on the garden about how to manage both the python/openssl patching and also getting the latest yt-dlp in place, with __main__.py symlinked to the directory one level up (I’m doing a lousy job of describing this, but for those here who’ve done it, they’re probably following along reasonably okay... knock on wood).

Finally, after getting close (I was managing to grab videos, but they were being sent down as VP9-encoded and not MPEG-4), the last thing fell into place. Suddenly, I was — once more — able to begin downloading .mp4 versions of stuff I’ve had queued for just this moment for several months. Seeing it work again brought a giant smile to my face. :)

Still, I don’t yet know how, if possible, to request 2K+ clips (like 1440p and up) to be pulled down with MPEG-4 codec and not the newer, more limited vp9 codec (which, for now, only VLC seems to know how to deal with it). Frankly, if I could get PPCMC to succesfully grab MPEG-4-encoded videos from YT (and to error out if only a VP9 in a particular resolution is the only variant available), then that would be the best possible outcome.



And speaking of DLSD PowerBook G4s… I’ve been thinking about consolidating my Mac life — namely, by bringing my SL-PPC test mule partition over to the A1139 and letting go of my imperfect, but still more-than-serviceable A1138 (on which I did all the SL-PPC 10A96 tweaks). The A1139 is, aside from the display, the same system. One of the duties on my A1139 which had kept me from doing much in the way of SL-PPC work has since been off-loaded to another Mac, freeing it up for this opportunity (provided I get back into SL-PPC work, which is another on the “tasks to do: low priority” running list).

My mind isn’t yet made up, but this is the closest I’ve come to letting something go which I’m liable to never come across again for as good of a deal as when I found this one back in 2019.



Last bit of PPC-related recent activity: I noticed macports seems to be finally letting go of supporting Tiger, on PowerPC (and possibly Tiger on Intel), as my last couple of efforts to update the iBook G3/466 have failed to build legacy-support (v1.1.1 seems to be where these troubles began).

So that’s a mild disappointment.

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Sadly legacy-support is currently broken on Tiger
 
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Alex771

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Today I tested the PCMCIA AKE BC168 CardBus card, received this week from pchub.com. I found it through this video by Hrutkay Mods, which demonstrates installation of the AKE BC138 card on a PowerBook G3:

A NEW USB & Bluetooth PCMCIA Card For Vintage Macs! – PowerPC Series S.4 EP.10

I'm so happy to have found this video!

The BC168 PC card contains two USB 2.0 ports and a USB power-sharing port.

In this related thread, someone mentioned "You want a USB 2.0 PC card that uses the NEC chipset; this is the chipset that is compatible with Apple's built-in software."

In the photo, you see a Gefen Dual Link DVI to Mini DP Converter (GTV-DVIDL-2-MDP) connected to a A1138 PowerBook, which results in 1440 x 960 pixels on the built-in display and 2560 x 1440 pixels on the Dell U2518D external display. For this setup, I previously used the ATLONA AT-DP400 Dual Link DVI Converter, but I prefer the longer and detachable USB power-sharing cable on the Gefen device.

In the other photo: ATI Displays Control Panel version 4.5.7 from December 14, 2005, revealing details about the PowerBook's ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 graphics processor.

Archived Mobility Radeon 9700 product page
AnandTech article about it from 2004
Archived graphics capability page at applemuseum.dk


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Tratkazir_the_1st

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A pair of questions (direct me if something similar been discussed, plz :) ).

I want to add SCSI controller in Canister. Got Adaptec 2930CU (probably 29160, need to dig it). Is it compatible with Tiger or Leopard? (server versions OK). Is there mac firmware for them? (What I need to flash them, if such thing exist?)

Second - I want to record around 48Gb of pics & small video clips to DVD-RAM discs (with Toast Titanium or similar sofware). How can I split data equally to fill discs? (Software / script?)
 
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ToniCH

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While I am waiting for my PB G4 Titanium I ordered a Buffalo Airstation PC-Card as I read in several sites it should be compatible and allow me to connect to modern wifi-networks (?). Found the card locally and it arrived today. Hope to get my TiBook in next few days so I can try it out!

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What have I done with a PowerPC Mac lately?

Well, after having it on my low-priority “tasks to do” list, I finally went back to — slooowly and carefully — patch PPCMC 7.2.6 to actually download videos from YT after being without a working PPCMC (on any machine) for the last several months (at least since March or April).

The test bed was my A1139 PowerBook G4.

It took a couple of hours of re-reading the discussion on here and on the garden about how to manage both the python/openssl patching and also getting the latest yt-dlp in place, with __main__.py symlinked to the directory one level up (I’m doing a lousy job of describing this, but for those here who’ve done it, they’re probably following along reasonably okay... knock on wood).

Finally, after getting close (I was managing to grab videos, but they were being sent down as VP9-encoded and not MPEG-4), the last thing fell into place. Suddenly, I was — once more — able to begin downloading .mp4 versions of stuff I’ve had queued for just this moment for several months. Seeing it work again brought a giant smile to my face. :)

Still, I don’t yet know how, if possible, to request 2K+ clips (like 1440p and up) to be pulled down with MPEG-4 codec and not the newer, more limited vp9 codec (which, for now, only VLC seems to know how to deal with it). Frankly, if I could get PPCMC to succesfully grab MPEG-4-encoded videos from YT (and to error out if only a VP9 in a particular resolution is the only variant available), then that would be the best possible outcome.



And speaking of DLSD PowerBook G4s… I’ve been thinking about consolidating my Mac life — namely, by bringing my SL-PPC test mule partition over to the A1139 and letting go of my imperfect, but still more-than-serviceable A1138 (on which I did all the SL-PPC 10A96 tweaks). The A1139 is, aside from the display, the same system. One of the duties on my A1139 which had kept me from doing much in the way of SL-PPC work has since been off-loaded to another Mac, freeing it up for this opportunity (provided I get back into SL-PPC work, which is another on the “tasks to do: low priority” running list).

My mind isn’t yet made up, but this is the closest I’ve come to letting something go which I’m liable to never come across again for as good of a deal as when I found this one back in 2019.



Last bit of PPC-related recent activity: I noticed macports seems to be finally letting go of supporting Tiger, on PowerPC (and possibly Tiger on Intel), as my last couple of efforts to update the iBook G3/466 have failed to build legacy-support (v1.1.1 seems to be where these troubles began).

So that’s a mild disappointment.

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As a follow-up, I pointed PPCMC on the PowerBook toward a long playlist of music videos, all at 1080p, and then went to bed. When I awoke this morning, I found over 500 music videos in splendid 1080p chilling on my PowerBook, just like that. :)
 

ToniCH

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I today received my new PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz 512MB/60GB/SuperDrive/56K/Airport. It is pretty much in perfect condition! 🥰 Came in the original box with some adapter cables and bunch of system disks (original 10.2 disks, 10.4 disks, 10.5 retail and 10.6 retail). PO said the battery does not hold charge but it came 74% loaded and seems to accept charge (now 92%), so it works enough for me to get the full 1GHz and L3 cache too. 😎

The 10.2.1 was installed but it didn't recognize my new Buffalo Wifi-card so first order of business is to install Leopard. Infact my external firewire hdd has a clean 10.5.9 Sorbet -installation so I booted from it and started cloning it to the internal drive. The Buffalo PC-card came to life too and works fine with my Wifi.

At some point I will upgrade the RAM and swap a mSata SSD in but for now I will just enjoy it for a while as is.

First boot from internal HDD with 10.5.9 is done, connected to Wifi and transferred few files to my Mac Mini 2009 -server! :D:cool:
 

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VivienM

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I today received my new PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz 512MB/60GB/SuperDrive/56K/Airport. It is pretty much in perfect condition! 🥰
How did you manage to find one of those? The last gen TiBooks are... quite rare...

(... I ended up settling for an 867MHz without the SuperDrive and AirPort because that's all I could find.)
 

ToniCH

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How did you manage to find one of those? The last gen TiBooks are... quite rare...

(... I ended up settling for an 867MHz without the SuperDrive and AirPort because that's all I could find.)
Lucky I guess. TiBooks are rare here too. Cannot remember when I last saw one for sale - any model. Probably several years ago. This was for sale on local Mac site, not super cheap but not expensive either. He had received some offers, I had wanted one for years so I paid what he asked, it was a pretty easy choice to make.

Didn't expect it to be this nice though. :cool:
 

ToniCH

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Did you buy the TiBook for the looks? It kinda hurts me to see TiBook tortured with OSX. It was born to run OS9.
I've been around Mac since early 90's, supported and sold them professionally (the PB12 below was the last new Mac I bought while in Mac business).

I've owned hundred+ Macs and still own a collection of 30+. I have 5 G4's and 3 G5's. I didn't sell many TiBooks, they were rare even new, but one I sold to my dad. Sadly it was lost at some point and I haven't been able to find it, but have tried for several years, especially after he passed away. So, I wanted one for nostalgic reasons.

But yes, I think its one of the best looking and finest Mac laptops, I consider that a plus. ;)

BTW. all 550MHz-1GHz TiBooks were shipped with OSX preinstalled, for 400 and 500MHz it was optional. My dad had OSX on his.
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And on the more positive note, I today rummaged through my warehouse and found my old PowerBook G4 12". I bought it new and used it along with my 2007 Mac Mini (Intel) until 2009 when I bought 2 iMac 27"'s. But looking at files on it, it seems like I used it the last time in 2012. In my parts boxes I found 2 original Apple batteries and one aftermarket. I am hoping one of them still works. The one (Apple orig.) I am trying first has only 130 load cycles but coconut reports only 72% life left. Well, it should run well enough so it wont throttle.

Happy to see that the PB12 still can log into modern wifi with no problem. 👍

EDIT: first Apple original battery has 72% and second 45% capacity left. They have 130 and 121 cycles. The aftermarket battery is the newest, I think I bought it right before I stopped using the machine. Not sure if it will charge anymore at all, doesn't look good this far.
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PS. also going through parts boxes I found my DIY thingamajig which I used to overclock my Powermac 6100 back in the day. Was going to take it with me to show you what was necessary back then to gain few MHz. Scary stuff ;) But, forgot to take it with me. So, it will have to be next time.
 

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Alex771

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In my parts boxes I found 2 original Apple batteries and one aftermarket. I am hoping one of them still works. The one (Apple orig.) I am trying first has only 130 load cycles but coconut reports only 72% life left. Well, it should run well enough so it wont throttle.
I am very interested in your parts box – for how long did the original batteries lie in there unused? I'd like to have a better idea of how long they can be stored without eventually becoming unusable. I came across offers for new, original batteries from 2005 and 2009. But I have to wonder what happens to never-used lithium-ion batteries during 18 or 14 years.

On a different note, I plan to buy a used A1148 battery for the A1138 PowerBook, open the battery case and figure out if I can replace the lithium-ion batteries myself. The goal is to use a battery case with the original microprocessor. I am suspicious of replacement batteries – I don't think they have the microprocessor inside. So, as a long-term solution, replacing the batteries myself seems to be a better way.
 

ToniCH

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I am very interested in your parts box – for how long did the original batteries lie in there unused? I'd like to have a better idea of how long they can be stored without eventually becoming unusable. I came across offers for new, original batteries from 2005 and 2009. But I have to wonder what happens to never-used lithium-ion batteries during 18 or 14 years.
Well, I remember now that I stopped using the PB in 2009 when I bought the iMacs. Then I needed for it for couple of weeks in 2012 and bought the aftermarket battery. So, I think the originals were in the box since late 2009. They were not pristine when I put them there but had already seen the 130 and 121 load cycles. I am surprised that they work at all but according to Coconut they did charge up 72% and 45%, like I wrote above.

I also charged the aftermarket battery, over many hours it finally charged to 100% capacity (1 load cycle only!) even after being uncharged plugged in the PB since 2012. But, the status leds are malfunctioning, they are lit all the time like the button is pressed all the time. I think the casing is interfering with the button, ie. the button hole is too small or misaligned. The decorative lid with the button has become little unglued from riding on the button, so I might be able to enlargen the hole and glue it back.

But, I think my charger broke after it managed to pull the aftermarket battery from the abyss. I guess too much was asked from it after all this time - 3 totally empty batteries and one that is probably not fully functional, or same quality as originals to start with. :(

Guess which one is the aftermarket thingie? ;)
 

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