What have you done with a PowerPC today?

[z970]

@RogerWilco6502 Well, I suppose that makes two of us.

Spoiler

Speaking with slightly higher opinionation than usual, I never cared for the concept of the ceremony in the first place.

Look at it this way, you've just spent the last 12+ years of your life preoccupied with mental task after task that were simply doled out to you by some district administrators to be assimilated in a certain way, by a certain point in time. Skipping over the many flaws inherent to that model, you then spend the final 4 frantically cramming and then promptly forgetting (to most people) useless cortisol-generating garbage like how a cell is built, how to analyze quadratic equations, and what current velocity a train has at 6:00 on a Wednesday if the wind is blowing west while Fred eats five apples upside down.

So now you're fresh off the human assembly line, ready to either step onto another assembly line for an extra 4+ years, or start being a good little worker bee for some corporation for the short and long term future. And how does society mark this fraudulent occasion? By throwing a district-sanctioned party while giving every student (or "sentient" product, more accurately) a chance to make some uplifting but forgettable speech, as if what they personally thought of past, current, and future situations ever actually mattered.

I don't know, I could go on all day. It's a broken system, and save for the now (for some, deafeningly) absent social filler, homeschooling isn't a safe haven either as it has to adhere to the same psychotic cookie-cutter standard if you want any semblance of recognition by the rest of society.

I hope the pandemic brings the current system crashing down, as its final blow to a long line of preceding blows. People have a right to be more informed about the world, and to be not a product of the state's assembly line, but instead as an end result of themselves and their parents (who are too busy working anyway, lest everyone starve because they couldn't afford to acquire food).

But still... I digress.

For both of us and everyone else, let this landscape symbolize the end of a weary chapter for the dawn of a better one.

 

[RogerWilco6502]

@RogerWilco6502 Well, I suppose that makes two of us, then.

Speaking with slightly higher opinionation than usual, I never cared for the concept of the ceremony in the first place.

Spoiler

Look at it this way, you've just spent the last 12+ years of your life preoccupied with mental task after task that were simply doled out to you by some district administrators to be assimilated in a certain way, by a certain point in time. Skipping over the many flaws inherent to that model, you then spend the final 4 frantically cramming and then promptly forgetting (to most people) useless cortisol-generating garbage like how a cell is built, how to analyze quadratic equations, and what current velocity a train has at 6:00 on a Wednesday if the wind is blowing west while Fred eats five apples upside down.

So now you're fresh off the human assembly line, ready to either step onto another assembly line for an extra 4+ years, or start being a good little worker bee for some corporation for the short and long term future. And how does society mark this fraudulent occasion? By throwing a district-sanctioned party while giving every student (or "sentient" product, more accurately) a chance to make some uplifting but forgettable speech, as if what they personally thought of past, current, and future situations ever actually mattered.

I don't know, I could go on all day. It's a broken system, and save for the now (for some, deafeningly) absent social filler, homeschooling isn't a safe haven either as it has to adhere to the same psychotic cookie-cutter standard if you want any semblance of recognition by the rest of society.

I hope the pandemic brings the current system crashing down, as its final blow to a long line of preceding blows. People have a right to be more informed about the world, and to be not a product of the state's assembly line, but instead as an end result of themselves and their parents (who are too busy working anyway, lest everyone starve because they couldn't afford to acquire food).

Still... I digress.

For both of us and everyone else, let this landscape symbolize the end of a weary chapter and the dawn of a better one.

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I like that landscape, and I think that's a good analog for the current situation.

 

[2984839]

I was going to say that in today’s detached, fast paced existence, it is so easy to feel the dehumanization of the culture that binds us. It can be down right exhausting at times.

A hand made gift is the physical antithesis to this. I was reading an article in readers digest about this man who collects Soldiers letters to loved ones and vice versa through the generations. The personal gift of hand written correspondence was for some their final act before death; the letters Reaching and speaking to their families Days, weeks, months after the author had died.

Anyhow it reminded me of the Intrinsic “true“ value that something like a hand written/made correspondence has and it’s meaning.
When my Grandpa passed away a few years back, we were cleaning out his home and I remember finding a stash of letters from my grandma to her sister and a few friends dated in the 1920-30s. I handed them to my mom (Who was executor) but regret not following through as I think they may have gotten thrown away in the emotional weight & gravity my mom was wrestling with at the time.

Anyhow, kudos to your efforts. In the age of texts and Selfies hand made anything is a grounding act & nod to our shared humanity & experience.

Agreed 100%.

Someone I know told his daughter and her boyfriend to send handwritten letters to each other rather than call or text while they were dating. They actually did follow this rule, and now that they are married, they have all of these letters from when they were dating saved forever. It was a brilliant, brilliant idea.

 

[1042686]

@RogerWilco6502 Well, I suppose that makes two of us.

Spoiler

Speaking with slightly higher opinionation than usual, I never cared for the concept of the ceremony in the first place.

Look at it this way, you've just spent the last 12+ years of your life preoccupied with mental task after task that were simply doled out to you by some district administrators to be assimilated in a certain way, by a certain point in time. Skipping over the many flaws inherent to that model, you then spend the final 4 frantically cramming and then promptly forgetting (to most people) useless cortisol-generating garbage like how a cell is built, how to analyze quadratic equations, and what current velocity a train has at 6:00 on a Wednesday if the wind is blowing west while Fred eats five apples upside down.

So now you're fresh off the human assembly line, ready to either step onto another assembly line for an extra 4+ years, or start being a good little worker bee for some corporation for the short and long term future. And how does society mark this fraudulent occasion? By throwing a district-sanctioned party while giving every student (or "sentient" product, more accurately) a chance to make some uplifting but forgettable speech, as if what they personally thought of past, current, and future situations ever actually mattered.

I don't know, I could go on all day. It's a broken system, and save for the now (for some, deafeningly) absent social filler, homeschooling isn't a safe haven either as it has to adhere to the same psychotic cookie-cutter standard if you want any semblance of recognition by the rest of society.

I hope the pandemic brings the current system crashing down, as its final blow to a long line of preceding blows. People have a right to be more informed about the world, and to be not a product of the state's assembly line, but instead as an end result of themselves and their parents (who are too busy working anyway, lest everyone starve because they couldn't afford to acquire food).

But still... I digress.

For both of us and everyone else, let this landscape symbolize the end of a weary chapter for the dawn of a better one.

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There is nothing stopping you from living outside (ideologically or otherwise) of the society you condemn to destruction.

Tearing down is dead easy. A monkey can do it (literally). Building the greatest societies and economy in existence is not.

but I digress, I have been reminded that this is not PSRI.

 

[Amethyst1]

Someone I know told his daughter and her boyfriend to send handwritten letters to each other rather than call or text while they were dating. They actually did follow this rule, and now that they are married, they have all of these letters from when they were dating saved forever. It was a brilliant, brilliant idea.

I know that my parents have kept the letters they sent to each other while they were dating in the early 1980s.

 

[TheShortTimer]

I was going to say that in today’s detached, fast paced existence, it is so easy to feel the dehumanization of the culture that binds us. It can be down right exhausting at times.

Very easy - and for me, the soullessness of swiping left and right on the profiles of supposed potential matches on dating sites/apps, epitomises that dehumanisation.

A hand made gift is the physical antithesis to this. I was reading an article in readers digest about this man who collects Soldiers letters to loved ones and vice versa through the generations. The personal gift of hand written correspondence was for some their final act before death; the letters Reaching and speaking to their families Days, weeks, months after the author had died.

Is this article available to read without a subscription? If so I'd definitely like to check it out, please. War diaries also provide a similar role as an (often posthumous) artefact or commentary to present and future generations. The diary of Wilhelm Hoffman and its gradual shift in tone from complacency to sheer horror and grim realisation during the later entries, is a classic example. One of my forebears fought in WW1 - unfortunately I never got to meet them and any correspondence they had sent from the front-lines has presumably been lost to the ages.

Anyhow it reminded me of the Intrinsic “true“ value that something like a hand written/made correspondence has and it’s meaning.
When my Grandpa passed away a few years back, we were cleaning out his home and I remember finding a stash of letters from my grandma to her sister and a few friends dated in the 1920-30s. I handed them to my mom (Who was executor) but regret not following through as I think they may have gotten thrown away in the emotional weight & gravity my mom was wrestling with at the time.

That's made me reflect that 99% of the letters that I do post nowadays are professional communications. The personal variety are conducted electronically and whilst it certainly has advantages, a human aspect is lost somewhat.

Anyhow, kudos to your efforts. In the age of texts and Selfies hand made anything is a grounding act & nod to our shared humanity & experience.

Couldn't agree more.

Agreed 100%.

Someone I know told his daughter and her boyfriend to send handwritten letters to each other rather than call or text while they were dating. They actually did follow this rule, and now that they are married, they have all of these letters from when they were dating saved forever. It was a brilliant, brilliant idea.

That was a brilliant idea - and it also means that their children and grandchildren will have a documentation of their romance, which is absolutely wonderful on so many levels. My great-grandfather wrote three letters to my great-great grandfather, asking for his daughter's hand in marriage. The latter was persuaded to grant consent for them to marry, having been won over by the former's written persistence. Sadly, these letters have also been lost to the ages - which is a great shame because they document a pivotal event in my family history.

 

[z970]

@RhianB I am beginning to get the idea that the mods have a higher tolerance for discussion veering into PRSI-territory here because we are most of the time able to maintain a civil and metered discussion without ever requiring external intervention, which they likely appreciate. I also believe that using a spoiler to fully contain such off-topic discussion also helps its chances of being left alone.

Spoiler

In any case, perhaps this is my fault for unclear communication, but there is nothing wrong with the way the economy is built. I agree with you that it is currently the best and most proven system available.

As for society, although the rise of the Internet and homeschooling is helping to revolutionize the situation immensely, there have historically been undeniably serious flaws with the traditional majority method of how the individual is brought up that only sabotages their chances in life, which ties into my third point:

Keeping it short, the "system" wasn't so much the very fabric of society and its economies (even though they themselves contain largely fixable issues, some more than others), but more-so my abbreviation for the public education system, and the way it is built, which one will discover is seriously and irreparably flawed from almost every angle possible if they decide to dive into its history and inner-workings.

In regards to this, I was expressing support for its current natural decline in membership in favor of locally-sponsored (NOT state-sponsored) homeschooling, unschooling, apprenticeships, distance tutoring, and freely available Internet resources as a natural consequence of their forced shut downs from the pandemic, and before that the long since stagnant and harmful mental and physical environments in the form of political indoctrination, bomb threats, school shootings, cliques, factions, and bullies, plus much more. When all of this is combined (as it has in the past year), their sustainable future is rightfully called into serious question by parents, educators, and in certain cases the students themselves if they are particularly astute individuals.

As the scales tip in favor of the newer, alternative education systems in rates of mass adoption alone (as they already are), the traditional public school assembly line will naturally loose its power as a measurable standard, and will be again replaced in that sense in favor of more personalized grading and skill focusing standards, which when given time may even grow to challenge the dumpster fire that is the modern college campus. By equipping people with the proper tools to navigate their way in society, this hypothetical standard has the potential to be even more beneficial for not only the workforce (the one that the assembly line was specifically engineered for), but also for future entrepreneurship should the student choose to take that route.

So perhaps I am not so truly condemning as I actually am glad for the more HUMAN-oriented direction society and the family unit (or whatever is left of it) is currently pivoting itself toward.

 

[pochopsp]

Agreed 100%.

Someone I know told his daughter and her boyfriend to send handwritten letters to each other rather than call or text while they were dating. They actually did follow this rule, and now that they are married, they have all of these letters from when they were dating saved forever. It was a brilliant, brilliant idea.

I am 24 and I do write love letters for my girlfriend in special occasions.

 

[RogerWilco6502]

I am 24 and I do write love letters for my girlfriend in special occasions.

My girlfriend and I are long distance and we can't really send letters to one another, but we still do nice things for each other on special occasions. I've written a few songs for her and she compiled some stuff to give me digitally on my birthday.

 

[1042686]

@RhianB I am beginning to get the idea that the mods have a higher tolerance for discussion veering into PRSI-territory here because we are most of the time able to maintain a civil and metered discussion without ever requiring external intervention, which they likely appreciate. I also believe that using a spoiler to fully contain such off-topic discussion also helps its chances of being left alone.

Spoiler

In any case, perhaps this is my fault for unclear communication, but there is nothing wrong with the way the economy is built. I agree with you that it is currently the best and most proven system available.

As for society, although the rise of the Internet and homeschooling is helping to revolutionize the situation immensely, there have historically been undeniably serious flaws with the traditional majority method of how the individual is brought up that only sabotages their chances in life, which ties into my third point:

Keeping it short, the "system" wasn't so much the very fabric of society and its economies (even though they themselves contain largely fixable issues, some more than others), but more-so my abbreviation for the public education system, and the way it is built, which one will discover is seriously and irreparably flawed from almost every angle possible if they decide to dive into its history and inner-workings.

In regards to this, I was expressing support for its current natural decline in membership in favor of locally-sponsored (NOT state-sponsored) homeschooling, unschooling, apprenticeships, distance tutoring, and freely available Internet resources as a natural consequence of their forced shut downs from the pandemic, and before that the long since stagnant and harmful mental and physical environments in the form of political indoctrination, bomb threats, school shootings, cliques, factions, and bullies, plus much more. When all of this is combined (as it has in the past year), their sustainable future is rightfully called into serious question by parents, educators, and in certain cases the students themselves if they are particularly astute individuals.

As the scales tip in favor of the newer, alternative education systems in rates of mass adoption alone (as they already are), the traditional public school assembly line will naturally loose its power as a measurable standard, and will be again replaced in that sense in favor of more personalized grading and skill focusing standards, which when given time may even grow to challenge the dumpster fire that is the modern college campus. By equipping people with the proper tools to navigate their way in society, this hypothetical standard has the potential to be even more beneficial for not only the workforce (the one that the assembly line was specifically engineered for), but also for future entrepreneurship should the student choose to take that route.

So perhaps I am not so truly condemning as I actually am glad for the more HUMAN-oriented direction society and the family unit (or whatever is left of it) is currently pivoting itself toward.

I understand man. I am a fan of organic flow rather than structured topic adherence when it comes to conversation but I understand that many here are not, that they tolerate my cognitive wanderings and can absolutely successfully argue that the topics in place at this forum are here for a reason and that I am out of line. As much as I enjoy the thought provoking banter we have here, the last thing I want to do is become part of the perceived problem and cause the mods to have to "moderate". Conversely, a lot of the participants come here for the exact opposite - an absence of deep political discourse; rather they're here for distraction from all of that stuff and in that light, how selfish of me to blabber on about off topic, heavy things.

So in a sense that is me policing myself more than anything or anyone else (being a little cheeky about it too I admit). I do like how you employed your deeper views in a "spoiler alert" format. That's very nice. I will try to remember to employ that moving forward.

 

[1042686]

I am 24 and I do write love letters for my girlfriend in special occasions.

Yeah but you're Italian. Romance is in the water over there

 

[wm2]

I tried this today: Instagram & Mixcloud with TenFourFoxBox1.1/i7 user agent. These two relatively ok with a 1.5-1.67 GHz G4 CPU. No emoji and a bit buggy, but the searching, sharing, stories, comments and direct msg is ok. There is a lot of little advertising in Mixcloud. Without ads, it would be better. What is the easiest way to use Google Drive?

 

[Hughmac]

Some examples of modern HTTPS sites working on Netscape 9 on OS X 10.2

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I would be interested in how you can render these sites - I've just tried Netscape 9 on my PowerBook and can only get text

Cheers

Hugh

 

[wm2]

So, the G drive with OS X 10.13 / Firefox 60 user agent. Not bad with “quick access: off” (easy with 2xG5 and a bit sluggish with single G4). The download link is under the “report abuse”. If the files are not large, the DropCopy > iPhone > DropBox a better way. The iPhone/iPad/Android/MS etc. user agents not work.

 

[Dronecatcher]

Making a connection between my Powerbook DLSD and my 1993 Psion 3a - USB to serial adapter, Virtual PC7 running MicroXP.

 

[Amethyst1]

Making a connection with between my Powerbook DLSD and my 1993 Psion 3a - USB to serial adapter, Virtual PC7 running MicroXP.

That's just awesome Do you also have other Psions? I've always wanted a Series 5 but the display cable problems put me off.

 

[Dronecatcher]

That's just awesome Do you also have other Psions? I've always wanted a Series 5 but the display cable problems put me off.

I've had lots over the years. Yes, the Series 5 have that problem - I've got an Osaris that's like a 5 but without the slider mechanism, so the screen connector is far more robust - that speaks to VPC7 via infrared!
Also got a really old Psion Organiser II - that'll probably still be functioning after I'm long gone

 

[Hughmac]

I had a 3mx with the modem. Lots of fun

Cheers

Hugh

 

[Dronecatcher]

I had a 3mx with the modem. Lots of fun

Cheers

Hugh

Ah - the Rolls Royce of the Psions And of course, can still Telnet to bulletin boards via that modem

 

[Amethyst1]

I've got an Osaris that's like a 5 but without the slider mechanism, so the screen connector is far more robust

Might have to snag one of these then - they're also a bit of an odd duck, uniquely running EPOC Release 4.

 

[Dronecatcher]

Might have to snag one of these then - they're also a bit of an odd duck, uniquely running EPOC Release 4.

Yes, the build quality is low-end too and the screen resolution differs from the Series 5 so most software isn't compatible.
However, the core apps are there and it's a nice walkabout wordprocessor plus they're usually much less expensive than the 5s.

 

[Hughmac]

Just a quick look on eBay UK prices - most 5mx Psions are about £60 or a little more, but this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Psion-Se...539852&hash=item289d305ae5:g:~IoAAOSwyKlfX3sI is an amazing price, and this one is for a 3mx https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Open-Box...367251&hash=item34165b1867:g:ngEAAOSwdy1dq~5N

Cheers

Hugh

 

[Amethyst1]

it's a nice walkabout wordprocessor

Back in the early 2000s I was really into "Handheld PCs" running CE (would have liked a Psion but couldn't afford one) and used a HP Jornada 720 as a portable wordprocessor etc. That one had a very nice keyboard too. I was sad to see the HPC platform discontinued.

ust a quick look on eBay UK prices - most 5mx Psions are about £60 or a little more, but this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Psion-Se...539852&hash=item289d305ae5:g:~IoAAOSwyKlfX3sI is an amazing price, and this one is for a 3mx https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Open-Box...367251&hash=item34165b1867:g:ngEAAOSwdy1dq~5N

The usual outrageous listings. I really wonder if someone is... "whatever" enough to snap these up.

 

[wm2]

Very good condition DLSD!😍 I want one like that but it's really hard to find here. I'm curious about the MorphOS system. I never used it. Can I ask something? I mainly listen to music and I’m very happy with Vox, Cog & FStream, but I want to know what options I have in MorphOS. My files are 60% FLAC 40% other.

 

[Dronecatcher]

Very good condition DLSD!😍 I want one like that but it's really hard to find here. I'm curious about the MorphOS system. I never used it. Can I ask something? I mainly listen to music and I’m very happy with Vox and Cog, but I want to know what options I have in Morphos. My files are 60% FLAC 40% other.

Thanks

You could look here: https://www.morphos-storage.net/?page=Audio/Players

For audio playback I'd probably stick with OSX though.