What have you done with a PowerPC today?

[Bruninho]

@wicknix: don't you think that the price and the small demo time makes it harder for them to get more people into the Amiga scene? How about a one week demo without loss of performance? There are many reviews on blogs and online magazines testing things called "A week with Operating System Z", "A week with an Apple Watch". And they do a very extensive testing of many basic features for your daily usage.

For a proper review of an operating system on your own day to day operations, one week IMO is better than a few minutes to get onboard with an unknown operating system. Then if it is really that good, people will buy it with a better understanding of it and how it works and its basics.

 

[Amethyst1]

How about a one week demo without loss of performance?

To be fair, rebooting restores performance. So, reboot every 30 minutes and you're golden.

 

[MacFoxG4]

And considering how much we used to pay for a Mac OS X or Windows license, it isn't that expensive. It's just that I probably wouldn't use it often enough to justify the price.

This is basically why I haven’t tried MorphOS, I feel like I wouldn’t use it enough to justify the cost. It would be fun to play around with, but I know I would still be using Mac OS way more than MorphOS.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Today, I discovered 2 things - MorphOS works with the Titanium PowerBook and also TenFourFox isn't so slow after all - when I connected my PB G4 to my ethernet, the pages loaded faster and scrolling was fast too compared to wireless N USB 2.0 which is ok, but not the greatest experience.

 

[Macbookprodude]

This is basically why I haven’t tried MorphOS, I feel like I wouldn’t use it enough to justify the cost. It would be fun to play around with, but I know I would still be using Mac OS way more than MorphOS.

I feel they are asking for a lot, given I am grateful for their OS which can run on our PPC macs, still think OS X or even Linux is better option.

 

[Dronecatcher]

For a proper review of an operating system on your own day to day operations, one week IMO is better than a few minutes to get onboard with an unknown operating system.

The video I did was done with the demo version - it's a minor inconvenience but you can still get plenty done to set up a customised version as I did.

My only gripe is that classic Amiga apps that need the Amiga chip set still require an emulator - for such things any old X86 computer running WinUAE is better and easier to set up - or indeed E-UAE JIT on PPC.

 

[alex_free]

I am in pure disbelief. Parasite Eve says "Insert Disc 2". I remove my burned Verbatim CD-R from my Playstation for the first time since starting this game from the beginning. I put in my only legit PS1 game Driver. Remove my aluminum foil rod (which presses down the lid sensor button). Insert it again so the PS 1 thinks the lid is closed. Driver starts spinning. Then, Driver starts spinning fast. Swap it immediately with Parasite Eve Disc 2, freshly burned in the Mac mini G4. Before I can even continue with the trick, the Playstation goes ERRR and starts reading the Parasite Eve Disc 2 burned on the Verbatim CD-R! So much easier then the normal swap trick at boot. I'm in the clear and can complete the game now!

with this guys wonderful tutorial I've found I can do it in 4 swaps pretty reliably!

 

[Amethyst1]

Totally unrelated, but [rhetorical question] why doesn't the PS1 play CD+G/VCDs? (I know there's one single model which does play VCDs.) Would probably have helped VCD's adoption even though the quality was just as crappy as VHS.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Does PS2 have the same issue ?

 

[Amethyst1]

Does PS2 have the same issue ?

What? No CD+G/VCD playback? Yep. Sony made a big deal of its DeeVeeDee playback capability.

 

[alex_free]

What? No CD+G/VCD playback? Yep. Sony made a big deal of its DeeVeeDee playback capability.

There’s actually VCD add ons (yes multiple different ones) which have hardware decoded VCD capabilities for The PSX but not the PS 2. There are also some for the competing system of the time the Sega Saturn.

My theory is budget, CD tech was still kinda expensive when the PSX was released in 94 so a hardware accelerated MPEG-1 chip was the first thing to be cut if it was planned. The PSX was very aggressively priced compared to the competition at $299 in the USA as well.

I may pick one up to play with some time. I also want a Saturn (which has a very very easy swap trick method, just one swap).

The PS2 at launch in Japan didn’t even have DVD playback built in, it had to use a program on a memory card to play back DVDs. It was built in on all later models though to ensure the Dreamcast’s death.

 

[Amethyst1]

There’s actually VCD add ons (yes multiple different ones) which have hardware decoded VCD capabilities for The PSX

Cool, I didn't know that.

My theory is budget, CD tech was still kinda expensive when the PSX was released in 94 so a hardware accelerated MPEG-1 chip was the first thing to be cut if it was planned.

According to Wikipedia only the SCPH-5903 does VCD playback.

As for me, I'd love to get my hands on the Linux kit for the "phat" PS2 and have a play with that.

 

[onre]

Built a ton of Macports, fixed a small bug with Python 3.9, fired up Logic and got lost in the sound.

 

[alex_free]

Built a ton of Macports, fixed a small bug with Python 3.9, fired up Logic and got lost in the sound.

Python still working at all is amazing on PowerPC, unlike most other things like rust... Python 3.6 and earlier compile no problem even for 10.3.9, but with patches you can indeed get near the latest version.

 

[Riku7]

After quite a bit of studying, I've finally been turning graphics into fully functional Audion faces: The music's playing, the animations are grooving, and the buttons depress upon clicking. They are outrageous.
So, I can confirm that Audion, which was retired 18 years ago, is going to get some new skins which I'll make available on Macintosh Repository once I have a number that constitutes as a pack.
Tested in a PPC OSX machine, and in an emulated OS9 in Intel machine. Sadly, the actual Intel version of Audion that Panic recently released is incompatible with skins, because it's not a true full featured version of the software.
If there's any other active Audion users out there, I might be up for style requests.

 

[Bruninho]

Was Audion popular back then? Like, WinAmp on Windows?

 

[Macbookprodude]

Where do I get this MacPorts ?

 

[Riku7]

Was Audion popular back then? Like, WinAmp on Windows?

I was visiting Windows 98 just around the time when it was hot but I think it was, and they almost cooperated with Apple too. When I got back to Mac, it was already early Intel, so I just briefly missed Audion, only to discover it almost 20 years later. Here is the story of Audion, if you're interested.

But indeed one of its unique features was that it could be skinned like WinAmp or Sonique on Windows. The skins could be of any shape or size. I use it a lot, and mostly to listen to internet radio streams because I like to keep it visible in a corner while I work, and see the names of the songs passing by. It even supports some encoding and recording stuff, but I haven't tried those. Classic & PPC version with a wide collection of vintage skins (called faces) is available here. A few extremely well made gems in there, but some of the skins have unreadable fonts or they're just, well, a bit rough.

 

[RogerWilco6502]

Macintosh Repository once I have a number that constitutes as a pack.

First off, amazing work! I love seeing people do this sorta thing for PPC Macs.

Secondly, may I recommend uploading to the Macintosh Garden instead? You of course are free to upload wherever you want, but the Repository has generally been rather unethical in their practices and there have been reports coming out about the owner of the Repository being abusive to users. So supporting the Garden as opposed to the Repository would help stop this sort of behavior in the community.

 

[Riku7]

First off, amazing work! I love seeing people do this sorta thing for PPC Macs.

Secondly, may I recommend uploading to the Macintosh Garden instead? You of course are free to upload wherever you want, but the Repository has generally been rather unethical in their practices and there have been reports coming out about the owner of the Repository being abusive to users. So supporting the Garden as opposed to the Repository would help stop this sort of behavior in the community.

Just want to keep them alive!

Oh. Well that's a bit worrying; On one hand, I'm cautious about blindly following hearsay when I don't have personal experience or proof to support the claims, but on the other hand, I do want to have a nice vintage Mac community just like everyone else. If you'd like to share any practicalities such as forum posts etc. to enlighten me, please DM me.

 

[RogerWilco6502]

Just want to keep them alive!

Oh. Well that's a bit worrying; On one hand, I'm cautious about blindly following hearsay when I don't have personal experience or proof to support the claims, but on the other hand, I do want to have a nice vintage Mac community just like everyone else. If you'd like to share any practicalities such as forum posts etc. to enlighten me, please DM me.

Sounds good, I have a few Reddit posts that were being sent around a while back with some screenshots from conversations with the owner.

 

[MrVitalic]

I think its the last time I post such update . I’m trying to make the perfect reese bass kind of like chasing shadow. Ive tried massive (almost) and a virus (meh). My install on 10.5 is recent, so I need some big gun to come to the rescue. So I’m installing spectrasonic omnisphere ahahaha (evil laugh)

Reese bass, your mine now.

Its amazing that omnisphere run on a G5, and it does it quite well. Maybe I’l post my little reese sound when I nail it.

reference for the patch I’m trying to make :

 

[Bruninho]

Interesting... since I've joined MR, following the PPC forums, I am yet to see a member running a G4 Cube. The Cube is not popular here? IMO I thought that the Cube is one of the most beautiful Macs...

 

[Riku7]

Interesting... since I've joined MR, following the PPC forums, I am yet to see a member running a G4 Cube. The Cube is not popular here? IMO I thought that the Cube is one of the most beautiful Macs...

It's just that the Cube existed for such a short time that not that many exist, therefore they are hard to get, and therefore very expensive for what is essentially a novel hobby now.

Apple timeline, see the G4 Cube in the middle in yellow. They were available for less than a year, and about 150,000 were sold.

 

[Amethyst1]

Well, several members here have at least one Cube.