What things?
I carry a hub, but if it's built in, what's the problem?
Again, what other "things" can they put there besides ports??
Also carry a hub, is in fact an impact, you need to carry it with you.
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What ports should make a return to the 2021 Macbook Pro?
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I carry a hub, but if it's built in, what's the problem?
Again, what other "things" can they put there besides ports??
Also carry a hub, is in fact an impact, you need to carry it with you.
The argument against USB-A could be this… USB-A is most often used with devices that we would have to bring with us anyways; like keyboards and mice. So a small dongle/hub isn't unreasonable as we'd already have some sort of gear kit that we would have to bring.
A regular HDMI-cable on the other hand, that is something we find in every room where we need to connect our MBP to a display/projector of some sorts; so all we need is a port for it. No gear kit needed.
SD cards… I actually changed my vote to include this when I gave it a thunk about how an M1 MBP wouldn't have to compromise with battery life and heat management to get a few extra ports in. So I no longer think it too egotistical of me to want that port that I actually use more often than I at first thought.
Also, SD cards come in half sizes that sit flush to the side of the MBP, and nowadays come with enough storage to properly matter; so it's a great expansion port when people find their SSD too small.
MagSafe… it's saved me in the past, and I want it back. Preferably sitting flush with the side of the MBP, but still with full USB-C functionality (ie probably a recessed port, with a small removable magsafe-adapter).
Agreed.
If it's there, no need for hubs, if you need it, wonderful, no need for hubs, if you don't need it, just don't use it. ?♂️
If it's there, no need for hubs, if you need it, wonderful, no need for hubs, if you don't need it, just don't use it. ?♂️
Reading this topic I wonder if people here arguing for return of outdated ports to laptops even use laptops. Or do they have them for desktop replacements and rant here how they want that special 5.25'' floppy drive.
I travel a lot. USB-C only setup is much simpler and easier to carry for me than MagSafe laptops of the past.
This is everything. HDMI 4k 60Hz (asymmetric), USB-A (asymmetric, so 4 can actually fit on a Macbook), SD/CF (maybe used once or twice), 1m USB-C cable and a GaN 61W charger. All of this costs around 60 EUR.
Behind is a standard 60W Apple charger for comparisson. It's bigger and heavier than all other stuff combined. Now remember the ancient MagSafe chargers with fused cables, those took a lot of space. 99% of the time I don't need the dongles, but if I do, they are there in my bag.
I travel a lot. USB-C only setup is much simpler and easier to carry for me than MagSafe laptops of the past.
This is everything. HDMI 4k 60Hz (asymmetric), USB-A (asymmetric, so 4 can actually fit on a Macbook), SD/CF (maybe used once or twice), 1m USB-C cable and a GaN 61W charger. All of this costs around 60 EUR.
Behind is a standard 60W Apple charger for comparisson. It's bigger and heavier than all other stuff combined. Now remember the ancient MagSafe chargers with fused cables, those took a lot of space. 99% of the time I don't need the dongles, but if I do, they are there in my bag.
Get over yourself lol.
I'm not "unwilling to change". I just find these changes stupid.
"New or progressive" lmfao what? This has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on here. Might as well have just gone to the political sub section... I bet you drive a 2020 Prius and plan to replace it every year because if it isn't the newest one it sucks.
I never said USB-C didn't have a place, nor did I say phones still had Micro USB-Bs. I said I have more of them, personally. Probably because Android phones used them for a decade, and so do my PS3 controllers. USB C has been adopted by cell phone manufactures, and for some reason Apple on everything except the things it was designed for (lightnings ports, still?). You don't see them on Pro-end ThinkPads unless it's a Thunderbolt port, and that is a very new addition.
I knew this would trigger some big brained individual. Anyways I'm gonna step outta this thread before a mod slaps my wrist for "trolling".
Like battery? Or smaller chassis? Things that, you know, use all the time. Unlike USB-A, HDMI and ethernet. If you do use them, you use an adapter. It's laptop, space is limited and weight is important.
It's so simple. I'm not surprised Apple was the first to do it.
I also travel a lot. On the average trip, I need 2-3 different plugs for the charger alone. I may also have 1-2 extension cables with different plugs for the Apple charger, because power is not always available close enough.
Because I may not have enough electric adapters (despite having a big bag of them at home) or because there is only one power outlet available, I often charge my phone and my camera from the laptop. That takes two USB-A ports and two different USB cables. I may also want to connect a printer, a projector, a USB receiver for the mouse, or an external HDD/SSD.
The assortment of cables, adapters, chargers, and accessories I carry is usually heavier than the MBP itself. Sometimes I forget to take a piece or two with me and have to buy a replacement on the trip. The setup is so complex that I would really welcome any change that reduces the need for adapters.
Normal traveller dont just bring "gadget", paper ,extension and so on.
What good about m1 is battery , the last time era finding electric port charge laptop pretty hassle unless you 're in hotel room. I do hate open up charging cable and to find port in meeting room or customer place even thou is normal.
You don’t really need a whole bunch of dongles, you just one to plug in everything you need. And when you’re done, you just plug out that one dongle instead of plugging out everything.
I use HDMI all the time while away from my desk. Just about every day at work. I need it more than I need more battery or a smaller chassis. Batteries last plenty long and the gram/mm difference is so tiny I wouldn’t notice. On the other hand, I never use USB-C away from my desk and I have never used more than one at any given time. It only replaces a docking station connection. Packing dongles adds weight and space over what I need, so that’s a bad argument. Saying it again, usage is not universal. Different people have different needs and those different needs in no way mean that they oppose technology. Based off of my needs, I could argue that no one needs a second USB-C port and any more than one is wasteful.
Edit: Also, dongles on laptops actually used as portable devices are bad. Everything that has to be plugged into a laptop while mobile is a potential point where force can be applied to the board when inadvertently packed up or in a fall situation. I have had a mouse dongle shoved hard enough into the laptop that it became stuck.
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To an extent, yes I agree that can be the answer for some use cases. Certainly for the more static ones where you have full control of your set up. It becomes a problem more when you're actually taking your machine with you on the go and have to think ahead what you might need, or if something breaks or is incompatible.
... so vendors should put just a couple of very specific-use ports on their computers???
Those different needs are literally the reason some of us are concerned about the potential reduction of TB3/USB-C ports.
But sure, "a mouse jammed so hard it got stuck" is a thing that's totally related to USB-C, because no one has ever broken a USB-A port ?♂️
Pretty much agree with this, it is a very polarised debate. I would say for USB A, while I see the rationale for it returning (basically as a built-in dongle to save you the trouble) if I had to make a firm guess I would say it probably isn't one of the ports that will come back. It seems more likely it will be MagSafe, SD, and 4x USB C (from current info at least). I think it's easy to get ahead of ourselves from Kuo's report, but unless it's named specifically I think it's more unlikely to happen than likely. Ditto with the HDMI, I don't believe there's anything solid to suggest it will return. Kuo was still petty vague and didn't name anything other than MagSafe.
A pro device used by people who use/need a high speed internet connection should have an ethernet port. Magsafe would be nice too.
An SD card slot is less than 3mm in thickness and barely a few centimetres in length. What other "things" did you have in mind for this awful waste of space?
“Vendors include features potential customers want in order to convince them to buy their product?” Yeah. Pretty much how the free market works. And as of now, your position of “None, just keep it USB-C” is polling at 24%, second from last. So in this particular forum poll, the majority of potential customers disagree with you. Apple might listen or not. Then everyone gets to choose to buy or not. ?♂️
Not USB-C specific... dongle specific. But USB-C only machines drive more dongle use for many. I’m pointing out a flaw in the idea expressed repeatedly that one just uses a dongle to replace ports.
I do hope you understand, that inside it is a bit more than just mere female part of the connector. Furthermore some people here wish for a flush SD card slot.
source: iFixIt
There you go. The famous modern HDMI, USB-A and SD from 6 years ago. Quite some space, which could be put to better use 2021.
PS: Looking at the above photo it seems that USB-A and HDMI are simply impossible, unless new Macbooks are thicker. This 13 inch 2015 model seems to have just barely enough height as it is.
Maybe the best solution (but unfortunately least likely) would be if Apple introduced a fourth product... a 16 inch MacBook Air. Those like yourself who prioritize thinness and minimalism get what you want and those of us who are willing to trade a little thickness and weight for more features get what we want.
How, exactly? The upcoming Macs with Apple Silicon are basically guaranteed to have an entirely new architecture, which will include brand new logic boards. If you're seriously telling me that they can't shrink the logic board down to accommodate a few extra ports, then somethings not right.
Here, I fixed it for you:
Maybe the best solution (but unfortunately least likely) would be if Apple introduced a fourth product... a 16 inch MacBook SE. Those like yourself who prioritize outdated ports and proprietary charging get what you want and those of us who are willing to accept the future get what we want.
Sure, whatever you want to call it. My ego isn’t tied up in what the name of my computer is.
Did you even look at the photo? Do you see how thick the USB-A and HDMI are? Thickness of 2015 Macbooks is the absolute minimum to fit these legacy ports.