What preventing you from upgrading to M1?

[Appletoni]

What preventing you from upgrading to M1?​

The answer is simple: The M1X and M2.

And
At least 16 power cores
At least 64 GB RAM (better 128 or 256 GB RAM)
DDR5 RAM and not the old DDR4 RAM
At least 8 TB SSD (better 16 or 20 TB SSD)

Even the old 2019 MacBook Pro 16-inch had 64 GB RAM and 8 TB SSD and I do not accept a downgrade.
Especially not with Apple products.

PCIE 5.0 and not the old 4.0
Doubled GPU cores
Doubled Neural Engine cores
5G
120 Hz ProMotion Display
Up to 1600 Nits
4,5k or 5k Display
Much better support for high end monitors.

 

[bobcomer]

What preventing you from upgrading to M1?​

The answer is simple: The M1X and M2.

And
At least 16 power cores
At least 64 GB RAM (better 128 or 256 GB RAM)
DDR5 RAM and not the old DDR4 RAM
At least 8 TB SSD (better 16 or 20 TB SSD)

Even the old 2019 MacBook Pro 16-inch had 64 GB RAM and 8 TB SSD and I do not accept a downgrade.
Especially not with Apple products.

PCIE 5.0 and not the old 4.0
Doubled GPU cores
Doubled Neural Engine cores
5G
120 Hz ProMotion Display
Up to 1600 Nits
4,5k or 5k Display
Much better support for high end monitors.

I want the machine you describe.

 

[Jorbanead]

Uh... m1 is faster in a lot of stuff than an i9. It just happens to run in low power budget so...

Sure on certain models and tasks, but they were saying the M1 doesn’t come with higher end macs (like a 16” MBP or 27” iMac). They weren’t arguing that it doesn’t beat out an i9.

Besides finances, as a general rule I don't buy first gen or new release IT products until they have been proven in the marketplace, and had any flaws/bugs exposed and dealt with.

In this particular case I am also hanging out for a 32GB RAM option, and cheaper storage prices will be a bonus too.

Agreed, but M1 is actually not a first generation release. True the marketing name “M1” makes it feel that way, but it’s actually an A14X chip. So at this point their chip architecture is very well stable and proven at this point.

Hmmm, what? Are you saying the M1 is not a performance upgrade coming from a mid-2010 27" iMac?

They just said it was an A14X chip? What does that have to do with a mid-2010 iMac?

For me - I haven’t updated yet because I need a 4-port Mac mini with better graphics. The current M1 mini is better in CPU compared to my 6-core Intel mini, but I use a Vega 56 eGPU and I need a mini that can compete with that. It also only has 2TB ports and that’s not enough for my needs. I already use 3 hubs on my 4 port mini (I have a lot of peripherals).

 

[januarydrive7]

Two reasons:
First, my current 16" serves me well for what I require (PhD work encompassing full software stack and deep NNs on cyber-physical systems); second, my advisor owns this one, so I'll be replacing the 2012 15" I own with a new M* whenever I finish my dissertation, which hopefully isn't too far off from now!

 

[JMacHack]

I'm thinking of backing up to Mojave on my intel Mac Mini, can you stop it from nagging to update your OS?

If there’s a way to stop it nagging me, I haven’t found it

 

[pshufd]

My 2015 MacBook Pro has bulging battery so I made an appointment with the Genius Bar to get the battery replaced. This increases the likelihood for keeping it for a while to enjoy the longer battery life. The battery is bulging on the bottom so I'm going to do three Time Machine backups this afternoon in preparation for the appointment.

 

[KDPlazed]

SSD Problems that are occurring in many M1 Macs. I am worried that Apple has not yet addressed the issue with the ssd life span being shortened to less than 2 years and I need to have my M1 last for 5+ years.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I don't need a new laptop. My current one still quickly does everything I'd like it to do.

That is not the kind of thinking we want to see here on MR. You need to do better.

 

[Apple_Robert]

SSD Problems that are occurring in many M1 Macs. I am worried that Apple has not yet addressed the issue with the ssd life span being shortened to less than 2 years and I need to have my M1 last for 5+ years.

That problem appears to only be affecting a minute set of users. It isn't widespread. The chances of you being affected are slim to none.

The forum has a way of making things appear worse than they really are.

 

[Puonti]

They just said it was an A14X chip? What does that have to do with a mid-2010 iMac?

They suggested the M1 is not an option for anyone looking for performance, and I just pointed out that it most certainly is a performance upgrade for me, coming from a 27" mid-2010 iMac. And if Apple puts something even faster in the upcoming bigger iMac, all the better.

 

[velocityg4]

That is not the kind of thinking we want to see here on MR. You need to do better.

You're right! I'll bag on it and improve my forum cred!
- No support for triple external monitors.
- Only 16GB RAM limit.
- No removable SSD.
- No discrete graphics.
- No USB A
- No SD Card Reader
- Only two Thunderbolt ports

It doesn't matter that I don't have use for any of that in a laptop or that a base model Air will more than support my laptop needs. Nor does it matter that I have desktops, I'd likely never replace with a Mac, which fulfill those roles. I still expect them. 😭👿

 

[mcnallym]

Because my MM2018 iTunes server is perfectly fine as it is.
My hackintosh (basically an iMac 2019 with i9 9900k and RX580) also doing the job still.
will replace them when no longer do the job.

 

[Jorbanead]

They suggested the M1 is not an option for anyone looking for performance, and I just pointed out that it most certainly is a performance upgrade for me, coming from a 27" mid-2010 iMac. And if Apple puts something even faster in the upcoming bigger iMac, all the better.

Well of course the 8-core M1 is going to be faster than a 2010 Intel chip. Their comment seemed to be talking about those that need performance chips which are typically geared towards power users. If you’re still rockin a 2010 iMac in 2021 I wouldn’t consider that a power user who needs “performance” chips.

 

[Puonti]

Their comment seemed to be talking about those that need performance chips which are typically geared towards power users.

That's entirely possible.

 

[UBS28]

In my case, 32-bit software that will NEVER be upgraded to work in 64 bits or for the new m-series CPUs.

That's why I bought a 2018 Mini (Intel based) that came with Mojave, the last Mac OS to run 32 bits.

This Mini will NEVER be upgraded beyond Mojave as "its main OS".

Mojave is destined to become the "Windows XP" of the Mac world, for users who need to maintain compatibility with old software.

I probably will get an m-series MacBook Pro when the 14" version is released...

I think I will build a nice 32-core / 64-core AMD desktop PC for all the software Apple killed with dropping 32-bit, when the supply of computer components return to normal.

 

[Starfia]

My main Mac is a 27" iMac, and I'll want a significant upgrade which will impress me for years when it comes time to leave Intel. I'd like to hear more about the graphics story, and I subtly suspect we've seen all the "iMacs," and that "iMac Pro" is going to be the name for what remains under the cloth.

Meanwhile, the new entry-level iMacs and the M1 chip itself are enormously promising. Patience.

 

[Joeronzk]

The most important is the compatibility issue. I have used a of apps on Mac and concerned some of them not working well on M1 chip. Also there is no way to run a bootcamp partition on M1 Mac.

 

[Isamilis]

1. still need intel for VM
2. SSD write issue
3. 1st generation

 

[Silmakhor]

Waiting for a larger Imac than the 24" to replace my 2011 27." Although I might break down and get the 24" in two hours

 

[Bodhitree]

They suggested the M1 is not an option for anyone looking for performance, and I just pointed out that it most certainly is a performance upgrade for me, coming from a 27" mid-2010 iMac. And if Apple puts something even faster in the upcoming bigger iMac, all the better.

I am not so sure. The M1’s performance is impressive enough that you’ll be able to do most performance intensive tasks on it. Compared to the Intel desktop cpu’s at the time it launched it was close to top of the line, and even now that Intel has moved over to a new generation it is holding its own.

The only people who should hold on for more performance are those who basically never have enough. People composing orchestral scores in Logic, or folks doing a lot of 3d rendering, etc. There the extra power of an 8+4 or 12+4 computer might come into its own.

It comes down to knowing your use cases, and not over-buying. Why get a 3,500 euro computer when a 1,800 euro computer will do?

 

[Puonti]

It comes down to knowing your use cases, and not over-buying. Why get a 3,500 euro computer when a 1,800 euro computer will do?

Totally. If the 1,800 euro all-in-one has a display that's going to feel small for me and the 3,500 euro one is just right in that department, I'll take the latter.

The mini and the laptops are not an option in any case, so it makes the choice really easy for me. Unless of course the bigger iMac comes out and there's something about it that I can't extrapolate from the 24" version, that turns out to be a problem.

 

[Loyola]

As I mentioned in other posts -

hesitant to get 1st generation
want (don't really need) a better processor

 

[Miat]

Agreed, but M1 is actually not a first generation release. True the marketing name “M1” makes it feel that way, but it’s actually an A14X chip. So at this point their chip architecture is very well stable and proven at this point.

Fair point. I meant more generally about a new product, not just the tech behind it. Sticking an existing chipset into another form can itself be a source of bugs.

That said, there are no serious issues yet for the M1 Mini that I know of, and if my 2012 Mini died tomorrow then an M1 replacement would be fine, especially as they are now turning up in the Refurb store.

 

[davidlv]

If there’s a way to stop it nagging me, I haven’t found it

If by "nagging" you mean the Red badge on the system preferences icon;
these are the "Red Badge Killer" commands used in a terminal window, or use iTerm2:

iTerm2 - macOS Terminal Replacement

iTerm2 is a replacement for Terminal and the successor to iTerm

iterm2.com

1. sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina" --- or
sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Big Sur"
2. defaults delete com.apple.preferences.softwareupdate LatestMajorOSSeenByUserBundleIdentifier
3. softwareupdate --list or softwareupdate -l
To check to see that it works, which asks the software updater to check for updates:

 

[bobcomer]

If by "nagging" you mean the Red badge on the system preferences icon;
these are the "Red Badge Killer" commands used in a terminal window, or use iTerm2:

iTerm2 - macOS Terminal Replacement

iTerm2 is a replacement for Terminal and the successor to iTerm

iterm2.com

1. sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina" --- or
sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Big Sur"
2. defaults delete com.apple.preferences.softwareupdate LatestMajorOSSeenByUserBundleIdentifier
3. softwareupdate --list or softwareupdate -l
To check to see that it works, which asks the software updater to check for updates:

Cool, I'll give that a try. Thanks!