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pshufd

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2013
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The simple fact that it’s the M1 and not the M2. Never buy first gen Apple if you can help it. They make awesome stuff, but first gen is nearly always a paid beta.

Apple did a pretty good job with the M1. There are obviously problems - just look at the threads here over time. But a ton of users with modest needs are probably quite happy with their M1 systems. I see a lot of people that are lifelong Windows users buying Macs because they've heard great things about them but want to know what's so good about them and if their workload would work on an M1. Most are web browsing, email, social media.
 

MrGunny94

macrumors 65816
Dec 3, 2016
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Malaga, Spain
Haven't it bought it yet because I'm waiting for the 14". My 16" is great but the battery life and the amount of issues with some random CPU spikes drive me insane.

Definitely looking into upgrading to an M2 14" Mac or something
 

Lights87

macrumors newbie
Sep 29, 2020
19
13
really hoping there is a 64gb ram option for upcoming 16 inch. Possible, but not likely?

I'm doing heavy work in parallels and want to have this laptop for 5 years or more

4tb or 8tb HD options would also be a plus
 

MrGunny94

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Dec 3, 2016
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really hoping there is a 64gb ram option for upcoming 16 inch. Possible, but not likely?

I'm doing heavy work in parallels and want to have this laptop for 5 years or more

4tb or 8tb HD options would also be a plus
I do think 32GB will be an option, doubtful on 64GB.. not sure
 
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currocj

macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2008
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Because the M1 is an iPad chip aka A14X with a different naming for marketing purpose. So it doesn't make any sense to get the M1 if people upgrade for performance.

Hence I am waiting for the M2X which will be a chip designed for laptops and not an iPad. Hopefully it comes with more than 2 ports too and have fixed some of the "first-gen" issues such as bluetooth problems.
not to mention the 1 HDM1 (4k max res) + 1 usb-c (thunderbolt) monitor (6K max res) limitation of the current Mac mini. and the 1 external monitor limit of the MacBooks with M1 out now....
 

currocj

macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2008
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I use my MacBook Pro as a desktop replacement, so I need support for three monitors and would like additional USB-C ports. The USB-C port limitation could be overcome with a hub, but I'd rather not have an extra piece of equipment cluttering my desk. That's it. The processing power certainly meets my needs.
Max external monitor support for the current Macbook"Pro" 13" with m1 = 1, no matter what. DisplayLink can add more at lower resolutions but its CPU intensive...
 

Luna Murasaki

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Jun 24, 2020
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Purple Hell
I'm really excited for Apple Silicon, but I am hearing all these horror stories about problems people are having with the existing M1 Macs that definitely lends to the "paid beta" idea as Slash-2CPU put it. I'm especially troubled by the problems people have had with bricking their devices trying to reformat them in the way they are used to since I like to reformat my computers a lot. No matter how long I wait I'm ultimately going to have huge anxiety about that particular issue when I finally upgrade and the time comes for the first reformat. But the more waiting the better.

I'm also wanting one of the higher-end devices that isn't out yet. I don't want to resort to a laptop with a tiny screen I can't see properly just out of impatience when the larger screen AS Macbook Pros are right around the corner.

I'm quite possibly the only person on the planet who is really going to miss the Touch Bar, but if I'm ultimately going to have to give that up and go back to memorizing numbers for each program to accomplish the same thing, I might as well do that sooner rather than later when I would be even more spoiled by the Touch Bar. Still holding some hope that all the rumors of the Touch Bar going away are simply because they are making a Touch-Bar-free model and that one with a Touch Bar might still be available to choose from alongside it.
 

Manzanito

macrumors 65816
Apr 9, 2010
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My current macs still work flawlessly. We’ll see what happens when they don’t.
 

Oatmaster

macrumors newbie
Oct 29, 2020
11
6
Why am I waiting? I want a larger screen and more ram. I want to future proof my purchase.

I have been using my 2012 rMBP for 9 years now. I am a graphic designer and while my computer can be slow it still works well. The last 3 years I have been waiting to see what comes out, but nothing was a big enough change for me to jump. 16in 2019 MBP had heating issues, before that it was butterfly keys problem, and overall the designs of the macs over the last 6 years I did not like. I don't like usb-c only, no mag safe and touch bars. I know performance wise any new mac will out class me, but I want ports and a mag safe.

I'm all in on the M1 but the 13 inch is too small for design work and I don't want a touch bar, I don't like the fact I would need dongals. I would get a mac mini because at home I have an office, but I actually do use my laptop for meetings and when I have to go into the office. So I need the option of portability. Also for me adobe still working on native updates for M1, so no need to move over yet.

If apple comes out with a 16in MBP with the new screens, M1/M1x and more ram I'll jump. I'm so ready for something new.
 

pshufd

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2013
10,151
14,574
New Hampshire
Just saw a 2020 iMac 27 for sale for $1,300 locally and I pinged the seller. It would replace my Late 2009 iMac 27 and run a bit faster. Performance would be fine too (just about anything out there is faster than my Late 2009 iMac except, perhaps, for the 2020 21.5 inch iMac. Why? I can run 32-bit software (via Mojave virtual machine), better graphics (about 55% better graphics than the M1), and it will keep my basement warm in the winter.
 
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4743913

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Aug 19, 2020
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Swapped my keyboard timebomb 2017 Macbook Pro for an M1 Air and since the M2 Macbook Pro will not have bootcamp and only do Mac stuff faster, the Air will replace the Macbook Pro in my rotation. I will have to find another use for the $3k I am saving..
 
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MrGunny94

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Dec 3, 2016
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Swapped my keyboard timebomb 2017 Macbook Pro for an M1 Air and since the M2 Macbook Pro will not have bootcamp and only do Mac stuff faster, the Air will replace the Macbook Pro in my rotation. I will have to find another use for the $3k I am saving..
I rarely need Windows but when I do I have the Citrix version at my company for professional level. For consumer side I don't really need it at all but there's been some good progress on Parallels for Windows on the M1.
 

Queru

macrumors member
Jul 29, 2019
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Sure, but then you should wait for the 2nm M# chips. Think about how good they will be.

Yes yes I know what you mean. For me the problem is that I already have a good setup. I can't easily justify spending money this year to change it. Waiting for not-the-first-gen apple product is another thing. Also there is my focus on advantages of fleshed out M3 on 3 nm TSMC process working with, what was it, 9th revision of ARM instructions in fanless laptop. Hopefully fully realized new design. Perhaps some native Windows support at that point. There are a couple of reasons that make that an optimal release to wait for and then buy into (for me ofc).
 
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darngooddesign

macrumors P6
Jul 4, 2007
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Yes yes I know what you mean. For me the problem is that I already have a good setup. I can't easily justify spending money this year to change it. Waiting for not-the-first-gen apple product is another thing. Also there is my focus on advantages of fleshed out M3 on 3 nm TSMC process working with, what was it, 9th revision of ARM instructions in fanless laptop. Hopefully fully realized new design. Perhaps some native Windows support at that point. There are a couple of reasons that make that an optimal release to wait for and then buy into (for me ofc).
I get your point but the M1s aren't first gen, The M1 is just a different A# chip, which Apple has been making since before the iPad, and each year Apple makes a new, higher performance one. So technically every year where there is a performance increase is a first-gen year.
 

Rock Star

macrumors newbie
May 5, 2021
25
15
1. External monitors with a YPbPr / YCbCr / YUV graphics pipeline.
2. Less than 32GB RAM. (I want 32GB, because on an Intel Mac I would upgrade to 64GB RAM.)
3. No 10Gb Ethernet.
 

kevink2

macrumors 68000
Nov 2, 2008
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One, I would like > 16GB RAM to be an option.
The other is that I still have battery life available on my 2015 Macbook Pro. Though I'm on my second battery.

If I hadn't bought the mini a couple years ago, the M1 Mini would fit my bill for that role better.
 

snorkelman

Cancelled
Oct 25, 2010
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I get your point but the M1s aren't first gen, The M1 is just a different A# chip, which Apple has been making since before the iPad, and each year Apple makes a new, higher performance one. So technically every year where there is a performance increase is a first-gen year.

Yep, not to mention each fresh M series processor release for the mac line will likely coincide with the annual obligatory MacOS version bump - none of which ever seem particularly mature or clear of all show stopping bugs until they hit n.3 or n.4

In which case anyone with that sort of concern would need to add another 6 months onto M2s release before actually adopting it
 

pshufd

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2013
10,151
14,574
New Hampshire
One, I would like > 16GB RAM to be an option.
The other is that I still have battery life available on my 2015 Macbook Pro. Though I'm on my second battery.

If I hadn't bought the mini a couple years ago, the M1 Mini would fit my bill for that role better.

I just replaced the batteries on my 2014 and 2015 MacBook Pros. So they are technically good for another six years. Selling them and getting an M1X is an option when it debuts.
 

IceStormNG

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2020
517
676
  • Not enough RAM.
  • Weak GPUs.
  • Not enough ports (don't tell me with: "Just buy a larger dongle")
  • Not all macOS software runs well on aarch64 yet.
  • Apple stupid requirements like "all software, even self-compiled, must be codesigned (if aarch64 native)". Makes homebrew and self compiling software more of a hassle than needed for no good reason.
  • Only one external display.
  • I still need x86 Windows and Linux in virtual machines, but don't want separate computers for those.
  • Big Sur
  • Only 13" laptops available right now.
  • From how M1 machines work, Apple has too much control about what you're allowed to run. Like the OS comes in signed IPSWs like on iPhone/iPad. Apple stops signing a specific version -> no downgrade to that version. It's my computer and I like to decide what to run.
 
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