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What would stop you from buying?

  • No 120hz screen

    Votes: 48 19.4%
  • No Charger or buds

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • Price increase

    Votes: 61 24.6%
  • Same size notch

    Votes: 26 10.5%
  • Smaller battery

    Votes: 25 10.1%
  • No xCloud/Stadia

    Votes: 7 2.8%
  • All of the above

    Votes: 20 8.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 56 22.6%

  • Total voters
    248
Recent leaks are showing same size notch, no 120hz screen, no charger or buds in the box, smaller battery, same size camera sensors, no AOD, 64GB base, lack of xCloud/Stadia and $50/£50 increase in price.

Are any of these reasons you won't be getting the 12 or 12 pro this year?

For me in the UK we already had a £50 increase last year with the 11 Pro starting at £1049, if it goes to £1,099 for 64GB then I'm out because I need at least 100GB and I already paid £1,149 last year for 256GB and won't be paying £1,199 for just a new frame design if these leaks turn out to be true.

For me, it’s more that I am still quite satisfied with my 8+. Touch ID is proving to be quite the boon outdoors where everyone is wearing masks, and it’s just a very familiar form factor overall.

I might eventually upgrade for the battery life, but for the moment at least, the newer iPhones don’t seem to have any “must have” features that jump out at me and make me want to run out to the carrier right away.
 
I was really hanging onto the idea of the 12. Bored with my year old XR and was loving the design of the 12. But the size/weight matters to me. I don’t like 6.1; can’t type on it, too heavy and too thick. Definitely don’t want any bigger than 6.1. The rumored small 12 is too small. 5.8 is my sweet spot and so I recently grabbed the 11 pro (at current full price) and plan to hang onto it for as long as possible. Glad I did, too. Because I can finally type fast without messing it up.
 
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When you look at consumer choices to upgrade or not, the question is, can they afford to? Smart phones are not cheap anymore and when you have carriers who enable monthly installed payments, it’s still expensive, which probably doesn’t even include accessories or any other surcharges.We can sit here and talk about features all day long, You either have the necessary funds to upgrade or you don’t. Price point is everything with smart phones today.
 
Lack of USB-C would be a dealbreaker for me, this is the reason I haven't upgraded my X from three years ago. My iPad Pro and MacBook have USB-C. I'm not going to carry a separate charger for my phone.
 
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I want USB-C. Given that they have already adopted it for the iPad Pro all the way back in 2018 it makes no sense for iPhones to continue using Lightning.
 
People who upgrade every year are not psychopaths by definition. Look up the definition and you will see how egregious your statement is.
I understand that. And I don’t care 😄

This isn’t a regular website, and some of the posters here are quite eccentric with their phones. So I did kind of mean it in a joking kinda way. Personally, spending 2k a year on a phone doesn’t rub me the same way it would others. I also forgot there are plans that let you do just that, and you don’t really own the phone, you just pretend to.
 
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Are any of these reasons you won't be getting the 12 or 12 pro this year?

Price and the fact older iPhones work exceptionally well for a few years.

I also buy the previous version higher level model as it's better than the current entry model.

Example; I got the XS vs the 11. About the same price and I think hunt XS is superior.

I'll get the 12 Pro maybe after the 13 Pro is released.
 
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When you look at consumer choices to upgrade or not, the question is, can they afford to? Smart phones are not cheap anymore and when you have carriers who enable monthly installed payments, it’s still expensive, which probably doesn’t even include accessories or any other surcharges.We can sit here and talk about features all day long, You either have the necessary funds to upgrade or you don’t. Price point is everything with smart phones today.

Price depends what features are included or not. Can I afford it? Yes. Am I going to give Apple another $1100 or more for another S of an S upgrade, no. Principle matters are some point for anyone not a fanboy who buys anything with the fruit logo on it.

Not for 60hz and same size notch display, the one thing you have to stare at all day, no. There are $400 phones doing not huge notch and 90/120hz OLED.

$1000+ phones are getting old; good phones are getting cheap and cheap phones are getting good. If anyone wants that kind of money they have to impress. While I think the Note 20 Ultra is overpriced at $1299, its definitely a "worth it" $1000+ phone still. It has everything and is a beast of a phone. You can command a high price when you have everything including the bathroom sink there.

Yes I do get Face ID vs fingerprint, but Face ID is a hard argument in the mask era and the sacrifice of the notch needed for it. I cant say I find it worth the tradeoff anymore.

If Apple cant get the notch a good % smaller after this being the 4th year if it holds true, then its not a progressing tech to some end goal. The end goal Im sure is under display and that may be years off honestly; were nowhere close as a front camera cant even go under yet let alone the other sensors needed. Im not willing to stare at the huge nothc another 1-2-3 years frankly; it's an eyesore and everyone is leaving big notches behind,
 
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My 11 Pro is all the Pro I need. It’s so nerve wrackingly expensive to insure and repair the pro phones now that I’m more inclined to use smaller cheaper phones that still have good cameras as my daily drivers. Also now is not the time for me to invest in yet another phone without Touch ID.
Repair costs can be mitigated by AppleCare+. That said, I've never really found any value on a $1000+ iPhone. I primarily just need an iPhone so I can get call and SMS forwarding to the iPad and my old iPhone 7 and now the SE2 accomplishes that just as well as $1K+ iPhones.

I'm in a congested area though (Los Angeles) so I am looking forward to 5G. Also, the 12 5.4" will probably have better battery life than the SE2.
 
Repair costs can be mitigated by AppleCare+. That said, I've never really found any value on a $1000+ iPhone. I primarily just need an iPhone so I can get call and SMS forwarding to the iPad and my old iPhone 7 and now the SE2 accomplishes that just as well as $1K+ iPhones.

I'm in a congested area though (Los Angeles) so I am looking forward to 5G. Also, the 12 5.4" will probably have better battery life than the SE2.
Who is providing the 5G in LA? I live in a rural area so I don’t even really have the best 4G. My carrier is AT&T. They’re good for my husband back when he worked in a building that no other carrier signal could penetrate. But now that he’s going to be working from home most of the time, we may try another carrier. But we have this huge family plan with decent rates so I don’t know how it’s going to go trying to switch.
 
Who is providing the 5G in LA? I live in a rural area so I don’t even really have the best 4G. My carrier is AT&T. They’re good for my husband back when he worked in a building that no other carrier signal could penetrate. But now that he’s going to be working from home most of the time, we may try another carrier. But we have this huge family plan with decent rates so I don’t know how it’s going to go trying to switch.
Both AT&T and T-Mobile. Verizon doesn't have it yet for my exact location but they do at my mom's work (downtown LA).

Mind, Verizon LTE is fast enough. AT&T and T-Mobile often drop to 1-5 Mbps during peak.

I haven't gone near Staples Center area lately but a couple years back, data could drop down to GPRS/2G speeds due to congestion.
 
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Both AT&T and T-Mobile. Verizon doesn't have it yet for my exact location but they do at my mom's work (downtown LA).

Mind, Verizon LTE is fast enough. AT&T and T-Mobile often drop to 1-5 Mbps during peak.

I haven't gone near Staples Center area lately but a couple years back, data could drop down to GPRS/2G speeds due to congestion.
Yeah crowded stadiums kill cell speed. My husband used to attend baseball games and complained about that.

Right now and probably into next spring, where we live is a weird post apocalyptic mix of closed public spaces and mask-zones. Public and private schools are closed down indefinitely. Well there’s a proposed reopen date but people keep getting sick even with precautions so the school superintendent nixed the hybrid plan our private school was proposing. So I’m looking at our cell needs now and 5G has faded into insignificance for us here.

It’s a fun time to play with the mid range phones like the Pixel 4a with its headphone jack and plastic body. They have a fun retro feel that kind of helps me forget it’s 2020 and everything kind of sucks. My SE looks so dated and ironically that’s what I love about it right now.

I’m not completely disinterested in the 2020 iPhone lineup. I love phone news after all.
 
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