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IIRC, I made it through through the first season, and a bit into the second before it was evident that the show was heading in a different direction. There was no shortage of turmoil behind the scenes on that show, and most of the time, it does no favors to the end product.
Season one has a very specific conflict, the over throw of the US government. I’m waiting to see if this is resolved this season. I can see things being on the fast and furious side for this circumstance, but after it is resolved, and they move onto other conflicts, then it is wait and see time.

There was another show I watched Absentia, where season 1 was the mystery of an FBI agent missing, presumed dead for 5 years and then reappears. Season One was this story. Season two took off in a very different direction and I quickly lost interest.
 

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Mr. Corman on Apple TV+ created/written/produced/directed/lead actor by Joseph Gordon-Leavitt. His smarts are all over this, and I'm drawn in enough to watch it through. There's three episodes available now. Looks like some episodes are written and directed by others. Interesting to see Debra Winger show up in this.
 

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Season one has a very specific conflict, the over throw of the US government. I’m waiting to see if this is resolved this season. I can see things being on the fast and furious side for this circumstance, but after it is resolved, and they move onto other conflicts, then it is wait and see time.

There was another show I watched Absentia, where season 1 was the mystery of an FBI agent missing, presumed dead for 5 years and then reappears. Season One was this story. Season two took off in a very different direction and I quickly lost interest.

Changing gears can be positive for a show, like when Justified changed from a weekly to more of a serial after the first season (great show, BTW). But more often than not, it's not such a good thing.

TBH, I don't remember much from DS, other the basic premise that first season, and losing interest in it once it drifted. The two staffers making googly eyes at each other didn't help, amidst the blackmail plot and other stupidity that made it harder to take seriously.
 
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When a show takes a different turn, I always wonder how much of that is due to changes in the writing team. I'm guessing it's rare for the same team or mostly the same team to stay intact for multiple seasons. But I don't really know how it works behind the scenes.
 
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When a show takes a different turn, I always wonder how much of that is due to changes in the writing team. I'm guessing it's rare for the same team or mostly the same team to stay intact for multiple seasons. But I don't really know how it works behind the scenes.

Big changes like that come from the top -- the Executive Producer and/or the showrunner (usually one and the same). And when those people change, like it did with Designated Survivor, the new guys get to call the shots (with all of it signed off, and sometimes initiated, by the network as well).

You may find these interesting:

What's a Writers' Room and How Do They Work?

Inside the Breaking Bad writers' room: how Vince Gilligan runs the show

Sometimes, a show is entirely, or almost entirely written by the creater/EP/showrunner.

Matthew Weiner has, or shares a writing credit on almost every episode of Mad Men. Other examples are Sam Esmail (Mr. Robot), and Noah Hawley.
 
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I just started watching this week... about half way through season one... don't get the Lost vibe at all... still trying to sort through the whole government conspiracy theme... and while it's been a bit predictable, it's still worth the effort, IMO.
Speaking of Lost:
The I-Land (2019)- This is a limited series, watched the first 2 episodes which I enjoyed, very Lost like, and I loved Lost. Ten people are deposited on a beach, initially unconscious, with amnesia. Let the clues and group dynamics begin! :)

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Look familiar? :)

But then I visited Rotten Tomatoes and saw both terrible critic and audience scores and: Bafflingly bad, the only mystery is how The I-Land got made in the first place, Auh-Oh.

So I plan on finishing this with bated breath. 👀
 

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Manifest, season 4 is confirmed.

 
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Speaking of Lost:
The I-Land (2019)- This is a limited series, watched the first 2 episodes which I enjoyed, very Lost like, and I loved Lost. Ten people are deposited on a beach, initially unconscious, with amnesia. Let the clues and group dynamics begin! :)

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Look familiar? :)

But then I visited Rotten Tomatoes and saw both terrible critic and audience scores and: Bafflingly bad, the only mystery is how The I-Land got made in the first place, Auh-Oh.

So I plan on finishing this with bated breath. 👀

Seems kind of a janky survival scenario... watch one episode. Rotten Tomatoes was correct... probably done with it.
 

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Speaking of Lost:
The I-Land (2019)- This is a limited series, watched the first 2 episodes which I enjoyed, very Lost like, and I loved Lost. Ten people are deposited on a beach, initially unconscious, with amnesia. Let the clues and group dynamics begin! :)

View attachment 1825067
Look familiar? :)

But then I visited Rotten Tomatoes and saw both terrible critic and audience scores and: Bafflingly bad, the only mystery is how The I-Land got made in the first place, Auh-Oh.

So I plan on finishing this with bated breath. 👀
Ok, finished, not satisfied with it. While the premise could have had potential, the writing was just too muddled and the idea execution unworthy. The best parts of were when the group was trying to figure out their situation. Heavy Lost vibe, The reality was stupid and some of the events indicate poor, not thought out writing.

  • The idea of redemption in a simulation where your memories are wiped are stupid.
  • Redemption would require therapy not pot luck.
  • A battered wife who drowns her kids and then attempts suicide is on death row?
  • A stalker who murdered a woman who rejected him should be in a mental hospital.
  • The nurse who has been helping other people on the island (never mind she euthanized 25 elderly people) kills a man in self defense in the simulation… and?
  • The mall shooter is murdered by the stalker, what he just loses out?
  • The pipeline bomber who gets killed accidentally by the Cooper who ”accidentally” killed his girl friend’s Mom has a flashback while threatening him with a gun?

The mitigater is that this is set in Texas, so I have to think about that. 🤔
 
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Evil (2019-)
We have been watching Evil, currently on Season 2 and just renewed for Season 3. What a great show. Acting is amazing (Michael Emerson is an incredible actor), the plot is compelling, and all the various characters are perfectly balanced. Some of the elements are quite disturbing, and many of the episodes are not predictable. Of course the series is affected by some X-Files vibe (most notably: is it true? did it actually happen?) because they can't provide too many answers at this point. I love the various debates between the characters and how each event is seen through the lenses of the beholder.

One important note is about this series' accuracy. While there's obviously some dramatization and simplification, they get Catholic main doctrine about evil and exorcisms correct. As someone who read Father Amorth's books (he was the head exorcist at the Vatican) and is a practicing Catholic, it is clear that the producers and writers truly studied the various elements. Independently of ones beliefs, this is important for a TV series. My understanding is that even the psychiatrist/psychological stuff is spot on. Of course, I repeat, there's some dramatization; it's a TV series after all. Father Amorth stressed that although weird things happened in some exorcism, in most of the cases it was just like blessing a "normal" individual without spinning heads, vomit, or anything else.

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Wow, this is good, just finished S1E5- Halloween, Exorcism and a very bad man digging his way into the life of a primary good character.
 
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Just finished Season 1 of Evil, so good, and nothing is resolved at the end (of S1). Now it’s onto Amazon Prime Video/Paramount for Season 2 ($6 for a month).

Note: Season 1 is available on Netflix until the end of Sept 2021.
 

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I'm intentionally behind-the-times on this (due to an aversion to most popular culture), but started watching Big Bang Theory tonight. And yes, it was fun and funny. Will definitely watch more.
 
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Manifest, season 4 is confirmed.

Now I have to consider starting from the beginning or picking up where I left off. 🤔
 
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