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Mefisto

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I have a pretty bad photic sneeze reflex, have had it for as long as I can remember. Now, on top of that, there seems to be a nick of some sort inside my right nostril, which makes me sneeze constantly. As if that wouldn't be enough, I have a cold, so all of this combined means I spend most of my days sneezing. Once or twice in a row can feel pretty good, but if it goes up to 10+ in a row, it gets old really fast.

So the thing on my mind is, can a person actually sneeze themselves, if not dead, maybe unconscious? I'm going to go ahead and not google it.
 

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"Midnight navy" sounds more like a weekend adventure than a color.

At least one would hope it's only a weekend.

No, it is a colour; one where a dark navy sort of segues into black.
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I have a pretty bad photic sneeze reflex, have had it for as long as I can remember. Now, on top of that, there seems to be a nick of some sort inside my right nostril, which makes me sneeze constantly. As if that wouldn't be enough, I have a cold, so all of this combined means I spend most of my days sneezing. Once or twice in a row can feel pretty good, but if it goes up to 10+ in a row, it gets old really fast.

So the thing on my mind is, can a person actually sneeze themselves, if not dead, maybe unconscious? I'm going to go ahead and not google it.

Try using Olbas Oil; inhale it, put some drops on a handkerchief and inhale that, or put a few drops neat into your nostril- with a very clean finger - no, you're not supposed to use it neat, but I do it all the time, especially on long haul flights - this will ease the sneezing, and give you some relief.
 
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Try using Olbas Oil; inhale it, put some drops on a handkerchief and inhale that, or put a few drops neat into your nostril- with a very clean finger - no, you're not supposed to use it neat, but I do it all the time, especially on long haul flights - ll will ease the sneezing, and give you some relief.

Thanks for the tip, much appreciated! Will seek out this oil as soon as I get out of the apartment.
 

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@Scepticalscribe glad to hear that about mom.

And mom won’t let my foot in mouth from yesterday go. :( I know part of it is her fears and loss of independence...:oops: it takes two to tango though.

Plus I have to jump through hoops to get money back from my medical insurance because I did not submit the right form to them in an appeal (which I did not know), and I paid part of this invoice already because these doctors have been billing me for three months now. The woman in the hospital billing department is a saint. She is so patient. :)

Outside of these, I am fine and need to remember to get another of these holiday scratch off lottery tix tonight on the way home.

At that time, (2012), I found the neediness and clinginess - her clear fear and fright - and her complete lack of a conscience (a sort of fierce survival instinct) in thinking that I should be available day and night - very difficult to deal with.

This wasn't her; this was a woman who used to delight in turning up in strange countries and working out timetables and destinations for trams, and buses, and trains and tours all by herself, and heading off, cheerfully, alive with curiosity, to see what lay around the next corner, bend, mountain, town or valley.

But then, she was frightened and clingy and emotionally demanding.

I'm not the sort of person (woman) who was ever socialised into being able to deal with that; being responsible for someone else's life, physical, psychological, executive, and caring almost killed me.

But, the thing is, she deteriorated to the stage (as long as she is looked after well, and she is) she no longer cares, and her old character, which was sweet - (minus the fierce intelligence - I really miss the intellectual chats we used to have, about politics, power, books, theatre, history, culture - she loved all of this) has emerged.

At one level, her state of total dependency is heart-breaking, but she is sweet, and happy, and content and comfortable and - on her good days - keen to connect. And that is the payoff.

I can't - and won't - do the physical care stuff; it is a boundary I will not cross. And you - @kazmac - need to think through in your own mind what you can, or will do - and, of equal importance, what you cannot and will not - ever - do. However, I can and do work in some of the most awful places on the planet, as an analyst, and that helps to fund her care.

I will say that if anyone - in 2011 - had told me how hard this would become, I would have collapsed. However, - as a friend, the very best student I ever taught (five degrees, including a first class Masters from Cambridge and a doctorate from Trinity College in Dublin) whose eldest son is profoundly autistic - recently reminded me, "it is like cooking a lobster; you'd never cope with the heat from the start; you can only cope with it gradually."

How right she is.

Set boundaries; try not to take the lashing out by a frightened and terrified woman personally - people lash out at those they are closest to - those they think will take it.

(Mind you, I had a huge row with the doctor after my mother hit me almost six years ago; I said I would not accept this from a man, why should I accept it from my mother - I will not tolerate violence in a relationship.)

Anyway: I do understand and it is not at all easy. Be kind to yourself, even if, especially if, others are unkind. (And yes, been there, too).

I’ve always loved black, deep shades of red and silver. But golden yellow, certain blues and other earth tones are swell too.

I have the sort of sallow complexion and dark colouring that means I can wear creams, yellows, blacks, terracotta, earth tones; but, since I first realised I can wear black well, I have hardly ever come out of it.
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Thanks for the tip, much appreciated! Will seek out this oil as soon as I get out of the apartment.

And get some tea tree oil, as well.

On long haul flights, I use both Olbas Oil and tree oil - on tissues, which I inhale, or, on particularly crowded and unpleasant flights, neat into nostril (yes, with very clean hands or fingers); trust me, it works.

For night time, to encourage sleep, I'd recommend that you put a few drops of Olbas Oil on your pillow.
 
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I remember when my cousin outgrew her bike and passed it down to me; it looked a bit like this. I received many compliments while riding it and learned what sarcasm was! What a time.

That is an interesting thought.

As a kid, I loved reads, (yes), and orange, and, as a teen and into my twenties, I loved all those shades - daffodil yellow, terracotta, peach, apricot, red, auburn, burnt orange.

Now, I love black, charcoal, cream, and midnight navy.
Sounds like the contrast of your preferred palette has been bumped up and the cast has shifted more towards cooler hues.

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I remember when my cousin outgrew her bike and passed it down to me; it looked a bit like this. I received many compliments while riding it and learned what sarcasm was! What a time.


Sounds like the contrast of your preferred palette has been bumped up and the cast has shifted more towards cooler hues.

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Not a fan of purples and mauves - too much like the dreary, dismal, dark skies I live with when ever I am home for a few months.

Professionally, my look is very often black trousers, black shoes, black top. Then, to be honest, a jacket of almost any colour will work.

The thing with a colour such as red is that one can only wear it a few times a month, it is so noticeable; whereas something stylish in black, or grey, or in earth tones, or cream, can be worn frequently and will receive compliments (or simply have it noted that you are turned out well) on a very regular basis.

This is especially applicable when I am away for months at a time: I need to plan to wear clothing that can be worn endlessly without colleagues or interlocutors noticing this, whereas a startling red jacket is best worn when I am attending meetings at home.
 

Clix Pix

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@Scepticalscribe glad to hear that about mom.

And mom won’t let my foot in mouth from yesterday go. :( I know part of it is her fears and loss of independence...:oops: it takes two to tango though.
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The fear of losing one's independence can be very powerful. A neighbor upstairs has COPD, difficulty walking and other health issues and is also occasionally showing confusion or failure to remember some events, things, and people's names. Hard to know if that is due to the onset of dementia or if it is related to medications she is taking. I started helping her out a few months ago by checking in on her on a daily basis after her daughter became alarmed when she couldn't get ahold of her mother (turned out that the mother's cell phone was malfunctioning; a new one took care of that problem). I've been looking in on my neighbor, picking up stuff at the grocery store from time to time (she does have most of her groceries delivered by a local grocery chain, but they occasionally forget something or it isn't available the day of the scheduled delivery). I've also accompanied her to the doctor a few times.

Anyway, this woman is 78 years old and living in a condo unit on the second floor of a building which has no elevator; it's a garden-style complex, which is great for young and totally mobile people and/or those who have no physical issues, but not so good when one becomes temporarily or permanently infirm for one reason or another. There are about 16 steps to get up to the level her unit is on. She has great difficulty managing those steps, but at this point she is still able to manage them. Barely..... Most of the time she has been staying at home, only venturing out for doctors' appointments. Aside from me, she has a cleaning woman who comes in once a week to clean her unit and to take out the trash, etc. From time to time she orders delivery of pizza or other meals from local places. Social contacts are limited now because of her staying at home. The TV is on ALL the time. She never turns it off, says she can't sleep without it going..... My neighbor has lived here since the condo complex was built and loves it, really doesn't want to have to sell her place and move..... financial issues aside, she most clearly has expressed that she doesn't want to give up her independence by going into some sort of continuing-care facility. I think it wouldn't work well for her to move in to live with either her son or her daughter, so I don't see that as an option for this family. .

So....what's on my mind is this..... Around midnight or a little after on November 23rd, I was reading in bed, almost ready to turn out the light to go to sleep because I was all packed and prepared to get up early and begin a four-hour drive to spend Friday, Saturday and part of Sunday at one of my favorite places near the sea, with plans for getting together with friends, a concert and non-refundable reservations at the hotel I'd chosen. The phone rang.....and it was my neighbor. She had fallen and couldn't get back up on her own. She had smacked her head on the fireplace hearth and had a knot she could feel but other than that was uninjured. She said she was fine, but after an hour of trying on her own, needed help getting up. ACK!!! I rushed upstairs right away, of course, and tried to persuade her that we needed to call 911 (emergency services). She had been trying various strategies to get up on her own, and we tried a couple things with me helping, but the reality is that I wasn't able to help her get to her feet either, because I am fairly small, simply wouldn't be able to sustain and support her weight. It would not have been safe for either of us and probably would have resulted in another fall for her. I also was a bit concerned that attempting this could cause some issues with my back (herniated disc at L5/S1 some years ago, and although surgery repaired that, I still have residual damage along with the inevitable further disc deterioration due to my own age [73]). Finally my neighbor in her own good time came to the realization that yes, we did need to call 911.....she wasn't going to get up off that floor otherwise!

The fear of losing her independence was expressed that night because she was afraid that they'd want to transport her to the hospital. I tried to tell her that this wasn't likely, as she wasn't bleeding or unconscious or anything, she just needed some strong hands to get her to her feet. When she finally decided to call them, I was greatly relieved, needless to say. If she hadn't done so when she did, I was not going to fool around any longer and would have made the call regardless of her objections. Four EMTs arrived, got her to her feet and ascertained that she was fine otherwise, and most importantly, assured her that no, they don't cart people off to the hospital unless it is a situation where it is definitely necessary.

Once I was sure she would be OK for the rest of the night, I went back downstairs to my own place.... Then I had to consider: should I text the daughter and let her know what had happened? I had the feeling that maybe her mother might not tell her or might downplay it significantly -- again, that fear of losing her independence coming to play -- and also I thought about waiting until later to text, given the hour (at this point it was around 2:00 - 2:30 AM). However, I also had my own situation to consider: I did have to get on the road for my trip.....if I waited to text, how much of a delay in my trip preparation would that cause? The daughter had told me, "text me any time if there is a problem," so in spite of the hour, I finally chose to do that even though it wasn't a situation where her mother had been rushed to the hospital. She responded pretty much immediately and we texted back-and-forth for a while as I reassured her that her mother was OK, but this is what had happened, etc....... After we'd finished texting she called her mother and spoke with her, too, and in a text let me know that she'd been in contact. Finally I turned off the light and got a few hours of sleep.....

I don't know if the daughter came over during the weekend (she lives about an hour's drive away) but the son and his wife, who also live at a distance, had already been planning to spend Friday with his mother anyway, so they would have been with her on Friday. I returned from my trip yesterday and although I had sent emails prior to leaving, while I was away and once I'd gotten home, I didn't get any responses, and I had the uneasy feeling that probably my neighbor was upset with me for having texted her daughter about the situation. Yep, when I went upstairs this afternoon I got a chilly reception and my neighbor was indeed angry with me, feeling that she couldn't trust me any more. It was very clear to me that she is feeling threatened with the potential loss of her independence and I can understand how awful that probably feels, but to me the bottom line here is that for several reasons this is a safety and health issue and that perhaps she should no longer be living on her own. She just isn't able to see that for herself. It's such a difficult situation for anyone and their family, especially when the person isn't emotionally ready to be living somewhere else. I told my neighbor, "if you were my mother, I'd want to know when something like this happens, and in fact I did appreciate the kindness of my own mother's friends in NC who immediately contacted me when she had various situations develop." I needed and wanted to know what was going on, and I know my neighbor's daughter appreciates knowing in the situation with her mother, too. Anyway, that's what is on my mind right now!
 
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@Clix Pix thank you for sharing that experience. It helps just hearing what other folks have experienced and done. We live on a second floor so that's 19 stairs for mom which was difficult before the broken hip.

Giant NY hugs (I refuse to use what our erm Thing in Chief says when he describes giant) @Scepticalscribe. I cannot imagine what you've been through and to have to bring that up again probably doesn't help. And thanks for the lobster quote. So very true (and now I am even hungrier (that's okay). :)

At least mom and I are starting to mend the fence, whew (thank you @Apple fanboy).

This thread has been wonderful and educational before all this, but I really thank everyone for the comments (and repeating some). If I can be some form of minor comfort for someone here (or better yet, make you laugh), I hope to do that.

Now where is the pizza and stuff? We ordered about 45 minutes ago from the southern part of our town.
 

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Caring for an elderly parent or other relative, whether the situation is involving a physical injury/post-surgery situation which needs time to heal or is related to sorting out what to do as a beloved parent slowly makes the descent into some form of dementia, is really, really difficult, no two ways about it. Living with the situation is hard for everyone concerned: the individual with the issue and family members, especially those living in the same household. All too easy for tensions to rise, for tempers to flare as stress sets in on what feels like a permanent basis......

It helps to have a thread like this where we can express what's going on in our lives, the thoughts that are spinning around in our heads, as sometimes just putting something in writing can be therapeutic. I'm still struggling with the question of did I do the right thing by texting the daughter and maybe I should have waited until a reasonable time in the morning to have contacted her... My neighbor is upset with me for having told her daughter what was going on....but in all good conscience I felt her daughter needed to know about that nighttime fall and a couple of other things.

Interestingly enough, this has stirred up some memories and I am recalling a time some years ago when a friend stepped in and contacted my doctor about something I was doing....something which I didn't see as dangerous but she did and now I agree that it was a safety and health issue. This was when i was in treatment for Anorexia Nervosa and in spite of the doctor's and dietitian's best efforts was still very much actively engaged in and wholly caught up in the disorder and, as the saying in the treatment community goes, "using behaviors...." My friend told me later that she was scared to "rat me out" to my doctor but didn't feel that she could just sit idly by and watch me continue to self-destruct and deliberately deceive the treatment team who was trying to help me and keep me alive.

Basically, I was systematically and deliberately continuing to lose weight while attempting to conceal that when I went in for my weekly meeting and weigh-in with the dietitian. This became more involved and complex in terms of strategies employed the longer I continued the behavior. The dietitian was fairly new and as it turned out, inexperienced with dealing with anorexics in full-on total disorder mode, so she took the weight she saw on the scale at face value and didn't question anything. Later, the doctor (who WAS experienced) told me that he had begun to wonder because the weights the dietitian was reporting didn't really seem to correlate with my appearance as time went on and he had already begun to suspect that I was using "tricks" and actually still losing weight.

My friend brought everything to a head when she called the doctor, told him what was going on and at our next session he confronted me. All he said was, "your friend called me." I stared at him, shifted uneasily in my chair, waffled a bit, but probably my facial expression and increasing color in the cheeks gave me away, too, and the truth rapidly came spilling out. Yes, at first I was angry with my friend but at the same time somewhere in there a little bit of common sense and sanity still lurked and I knew (and actually somehow was relieved) that it was a good thing and appropriate that she had told on me..... She and I talked on the phone after that and later she came to visit me in the hospital. With no hesitation, I hugged her and thanked her. What she had done was truly the right thing, and it was courageous of her to risk destroying our friendship because she knew my health (and my life, actually) could be at stake.

Obviously somewhat of a different situation than that with my neighbor but today and this evening as I was thinking about everything I remembered that very important time when someone stepped in to say something when I was not in a frame of mind to recognize the potential dangers of my own situation.....
 
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That’s one on the things that I love about MR. You come here looking for advice about an iPhone or Mac issue, but end up finding somewhere to talk about ‘other’ issues.

On my mind today is my estranged daughter as it’s her birthday. She turns 17. When she was younger you think when she’s 17 you might be taking her for driving lessons or whatever.
Turns out you never see her again. Breaks my heart.

Happy birthday Miss AFB. I miss you.
 

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@Clix Pix thank you for sharing that experience. It helps just hearing what other folks have experienced and done. We live on a second floor so that's 19 stairs for mom which was difficult before the broken hip.

Giant NY hugs (I refuse to use what our erm Thing in Chief says when he describes giant) @Scepticalscribe. I cannot imagine what you've been through and to have to bring that up again probably doesn't help. And thanks for the lobster quote. So very true (and now I am even hungrier (that's okay). :)

At least mom and I are starting to mend the fence, whew (thank you @Apple fanboy).

This thread has been wonderful and educational before all this, but I really thank everyone for the comments (and repeating some). If I can be some form of minor comfort for someone here (or better yet, make you laugh), I hope to do that.

Now where is the pizza and stuff? We ordered about 45 minutes ago from the southern part of our town.

Good luck.

You'll have good days and bad days, and then, most bizarrely, this sort of life will become a 'new normal'.

Re the aggression and occasional violence - which does pass - as a woman, and a feminist, I found that very difficult to cope with - not least the old cultural attitudes encouraging women to endure atrocious treatment "for the sake of the family". She only hit me once, (she who never, ever, hit us as children, she didn't believe in corporal punishment, and had read - and subscribed to - the views of Dr Spock), but I remember that night; I was boiling with rage, unable to sleep, - this was treatment I would never accept from a man - and my subsequent discussion with the doctor was strained.

The doctor was of the view that I should try to defuse the situation, and was reluctant to prescribe increased sleeping medication; I cannot - I will not condone or placate violence in a domestic setting; as a child, I used to respond - when other children were aggressive (and I usually got thumped), but, as a teenager I taught myself to walk away from it. But, placate an aggressor, this goes against my character at a fundamental level - I cannot.

Once or twice, she threatened my brothers as well - eyes blazing with rage. But this stage lasted around a year and a half, - and then, ended, as did the nocturnal roaming (the aggression and roaming were linked - and my mother never remembered either of them the next day).

My former student (also a firm feminist) said that she had found the aggression of her autistic son - once puberty kicked in he started expressing his frustration by hitting people - including his (younger) siblings; he also hit her - and people who drove him to his special needs school - something she found exceptionally difficult to deal with, and was furious when it happened. But, she had to protect herself and the rest of her family.

It is okay to be angry at them, - and to say that openly (I've seen shock cross slack-jawed faces when I said that) even though they cannot help themselves - indeed, you wouldn't be human with boundaries and self-respect if you didn't feel anger at them and at the situation on occasion.

Some of the roaming was hilarious yet heart-breaking; once, she was caught, trotting down the road (I was working abroad at the time, my brother and the carer had to deal with this); it was during the Christmas break, and my brother and the carer had put up and decorated the Christmas tree. Everyone was in bed. Then, shortly after midnight, they heard the front door slam shut loudly. They got up, blearily, checked mother's room, to find it empty to their astonishment. Clothes were thrown on and they both dashed out the front door, and were able to catch up with a small figure trotting down the road with a vigorous stride of the sort she had come to entirely lack during the day. She was persuaded to return.

Another time, I was awakened to find my mother roaming the house, vigorously flicking on light fittings and switches, sadly looking for my father, calling softly for him in room after room. When I came downstairs, she asked me plaintively where he was, saying she had woken up and he wasn't there. The problem was that he had been dead for eight years at that stage, which she had forgotten, and telling her that was not going to alleviate anything. So, I simply said that he wasn't there, and steered her back to bed.

Frankly, it is much harder for everyone, carers included (including live-in carers) if the sufferer of dementia who turns aggressive is male. Then, they can become dangerous, uncontrollable, and yet, completely tragic; this is when and why they sometimes end up in homes, - when they are still half capable of staying at home - for the safety of their relatives who can no longer be expected to have to put up with being endangered occasionally (or often), or assaulted while attempting to care for them.

But, my mother's underlying character - which does come out in these circumstances - the social conditioning is gradually eroded - is sweet and loving - even now, she will try to give me her monkey, her cherished toy that she clutches day and night (she falls asleep clutching it on her chest) if she is alert when I go in to her.

The other thing that will happen is that the mundane stuff that bothers other people - the old, I stubbed my toe type of complaint - will come to mean a lot less; you just will not be able to take them seriously, because of the sustained stress of the situation that you are facing on a daily basis.
 
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@Scepticalscribe Not sure what to say about all that, except we’re made of stronger stuff than we realize and I am sorry you had to go through this (and ditto your mom).

The combination of more Gabapentin (for nerve pain) and pizza (her request) made mom high as a kite late last night. Thankfully, her thoughts were focused on a single goal and I just agreed with whatever she said and helped her accomplish said goal and get back to bed.

Anyway, thank you for sharing as always and I am glad that your situation did not stay in that place. Warm thoughts of dinner and other good things.
 
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That’s one on the things that I love about MR. You come here looking for advice about an iPhone or Mac issue, but end up finding somewhere to talk about ‘other’ issues.

On my mind today is my estranged daughter as it’s her birthday. She turns 17. When she was younger you think when she’s 17 you might be taking her for driving lessons or whatever.
Turns out you never see her again. Breaks my heart.

Happy birthday Miss AFB. I miss you.

Stay strong, send her positive thoughts and wish her well.
 
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That’s one on the things that I love about MR. You come here looking for advice about an iPhone or Mac issue, but end up finding somewhere to talk about ‘other’ issues.

On my mind today is my estranged daughter as it’s her birthday. She turns 17. When she was younger you think when she’s 17 you might be taking her for driving lessons or whatever.
Turns out you never see her again. Breaks my heart.

Happy birthday Miss AFB. I miss you.

So sorry to hear this AFB. I truly hope things patch themselves up for you both. Seconding the positive thoughts and love to her. Here if you need to “talk”.
 
That’s one on the things that I love about MR. You come here looking for advice about an iPhone or Mac issue, but end up finding somewhere to talk about ‘other’ issues.

On my mind today is my estranged daughter as it’s her birthday. She turns 17. When she was younger you think when she’s 17 you might be taking her for driving lessons or whatever.
Turns out you never see her again. Breaks my heart.

Happy birthday Miss AFB. I miss you.
The hugest of hugs man.
[doublepost=1543361073][/doublepost]What’s on my mind? All sorts of negative stuff tonight I’m afraid. Need a major change of life. Just not happy where things are. On the surface it all looks so perfect. Decent income, holidays, lots of smiling photos my partner puts on FaceBook.

But in reality, things not good at all. It’s all a bag of crap. Need to be brave.
 

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On my mind today is....

Sometimes love isn’t about kindness, or anything emotional at all. Tough love is important for love to actually survive, if we want to grow in some relationships.
 

kazmac

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@SoggyCheese wishing you all the best with this. Virtual hugs.

@Mefisto how are you feeling?

Me: Slightly procrastinating with med insurance paperwork, but it must be done to skip paying these bills (insurance pays them instead). Surprise med bill forms are your friends.

But I’d rather play with my imaginary friends I am still writing. ( *Pouts as I download the medical bill forms* )
 
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