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I live in the States and use WhatsApp to talk to my friends in other countries that don't have iPhones. I don't know why people assume that something they don't personally use must be bad.
Welcome to the Internet... I don't use it so it must not be wide spread or good... I've never experienced that issue so folks are either making it up or using it wrong... etc... remember the center of the Internet universe is me :)
 
LOL.


WhatsApp is better than iMessage. I wished more Americans used it.
Curious on the reasons you think WA is better than iMessage.

I use Whatsapp to communicate with cross platform users (Android) and for work mostly.

For my private connections I use iMessage, because
  1. The photos and videos are shared are high quality, uncompressed - Whatsapp is really bad in this even though you select higher quality in settings
  2. Skeuomorphic design of iMessage is much softer on the eye and easier to use for me.
  3. WhatsApp being part of Meta is something that makes me switch to iMessage at any chance I get.
  4. Too many scam/spam messages - this is really annoying.
  5. Whatsapp calls are buggy, uses too many system resources and Facetime/FT Audio are far superior here.
 
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Finally, now a native iPad and Apple Watch App would be great

The first would mean I could use WhatsApp more, the second would mean I could leave my phone behind occasionally and just use my watch
 
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Finally! Always fascinating to see reactions from Americans on here re: Whatsapp. Here in London, 95% of my contacts use iPhones and yet I exclusively use Apple Messages for 2FA codes and tracking updates. Virtually all green bubbles. Funny how iMessage quietly died down over the years. I know a few Apple hardcore fans who use iMessages but for the most part, Whatsapp is the universal app here.

Now it would be great if the 3-4 spyware apps (can you believe they still ise McAffee) my company installs on my M1Pro MBP moved to AS. The constant use of Rosetta means I never had more than 4.5 hours of battery on my 14-inch.
Tell them about Jamf Protect 😉
 
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I only use it to have iMessage features with otherwise green bubble friends. iMessage is my default, always.

That said, it's not great for voice notes in comparison to WhatsApp.
 
In Australia no one really uses WhatsApp, probably because every mobile plan here has unlimited text messages and Australia has never charged to receive texts. Foreigners will tend to use it here, but WhatsApp is strongly associated with scammers in Australia in my experience.

All phone plans in Israel have unlimited text, calls (and usually 300+GB data) - and Whatsapp is extremely popular in here.

Even Customer Service operates using Whatsapp chatbots here
 
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Ignoring the "My preferred messenger is objectively better than your preferred messenger and I will assert myself by dying on that hill" nonsense going on here -

RAM utilisation from the WhatsApp process and rosetta subprocesses is down from 1.5GB to ~130MB between the old Intel-App and the new beta. Active threads down from ~100 to ~15. My MBP battery will be very happy with that change, and my other half with the basic M1 MacBook Air won't have to close WhatsApp anymore when a game is started.

Very nice.
 
Finally! Always fascinating to see reactions from Americans on here re: Whatsapp. Here in London, 95% of my contacts use iPhones and yet I exclusively use Apple Messages for 2FA codes and tracking updates. Virtually all green bubbles. Funny how iMessage quietly died down over the years. I know a few Apple hardcore fans who use iMessages but for the most part, Whatsapp is the universal app here.

Now it would be great if the 3-4 spyware apps (can you believe they still ise McAffee) my company installs on my M1Pro MBP moved to AS. The constant use of Rosetta means I never had more than 4.5 hours of battery on my 14-inch.
I don’t mind WhatsApp, it is a very, very, good app. But without iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch support, I still much prefer iMessage (which is fine because no one I know uses Android).
And of course, quite concerned about it being part of Meta, while they cant read messages, they do seem to read everything else. I’d prefer if iMessage opened up.
 
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All phone plans in Israel have unlimited text, calls (and usually 300+GB data) - and Whatsapp is extremely popular in here.

Even Customer Service operates using Whatsapp chatbots here
Well yeah, Israel is in the Middle East. I would think WhatsApp is extremely common in India, Africa, and a lot of Asian countries as well. Australia is different, as someone else pointed out only a third of people here even have used it in the last year, let alone use it regularly. Businesses and government wouldn't use it for customer service here. Facebook is the preferred social media platform here.
 
WhatsApp is end to end encrypted , and has been for a while , way before iMessages(iCloud) which just got end to end , lol
There's a hell of a lot of valuable, marketable information they can derive without even reading your messages. Who are you talking to? What groups are you a member of? Which ones are you most active in? Who else is in those groups? What other groups are they in? How does yours and their Facebook/Instagram data (linked by phone numbers) correlate with that?

Facebook makes money by advertising and marketing user information - they're totally open about that. Given that there's no advertising on WhatsApp, their app revenue can only come from selling user data.
 
This thread is so weird.

Happy to have WhatsApp in native Apple Silicon, but it keeps crashing for me when I go into settings, and notifications don't work no matter what I do. Back to the current release for me.
 
Finally! Always fascinating to see reactions from Americans on here re: Whatsapp. Here in London, 95% of my contacts use iPhones and yet I exclusively use Apple Messages for 2FA codes and tracking updates. Virtually all green bubbles. Funny how iMessage quietly died down over the years. I know a few Apple hardcore fans who use iMessages but for the most part, Whatsapp is the universal app here.

Same. I wish it wasn’t this way though. I prefer to use Signal or iMessage where possible. But 90% of friends/colleagues/family couldn’t care less and are so entrenched in WhatsApp they’ll likely never change. So WhatsApp it is! Unless I want to become a hermit.
 
I just tried the new beta on my Intel MacBook Pro (13" 2020, 2 GHz, quad core i5, 16 GB)., Running Ventura 13.2

It was a LOT slower than the current production Mac app. It may well be native and not use electron anymore but it just feels so sluggish. Dragging to resize the window you can see the app redrawing.

It's a universal app, so it runs on both intel and arm, but it looks and feels wonky - more like a dev test / proof of concept than a beta.

Telegram is lightning fast in comparison.
 
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Maybe it's because it's the most used messaging app in the world?

Psst! There are other countries besides the U.S.


Key messaging app statistics
  • Over three billion people actively use messaging apps around the world
  • WhatsApp is the most popular messaging app, with 2.4 billion users, followed by Facebook Messenger
  • WhatsApp is also the most downloaded messaging app of 2020 and 2021

Top messaging apps

WhatsApp: The most popular messaging app in the world, with over five billion downloads and two billion active users




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Telegram reached 700 million last year.
 
I just tried the new beta on my Intel MacBook Pro (13" 2020, 2 GHz, quad core i5, 16 GB)., Running Ventura 13.2

It was a LOT slower than the current production Mac app. It may well be native and not use electron anymore but it just feels so sluggish. Dragging to resize the window you can see the app redrawing.

It's a universal app, so it runs on both intel and arm, but it looks and feels wonky - more like a dev test / proof of concept than a beta.

Telegram is lightning fast in comparison.
Agreed, the beta really is a BETA.
 
I just tried it. I know it's a beta but the texts and some of the styles are off. I like that it's finally a real, native macOS app now but the UI needs refinement. As it currently stands, it still needs polish: texts and icons in some parts are too small and there's a waste of space on various parts in the settings and it doesn't have any transitions or animations to make it really feel "proper".
 
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